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Re: Lumber prices too high
« Reply #1060 on: July 19, 2022, 07:20:33 AM »
Gotta be a lot of people with deep pockets in your area. The only mansion near these parts is Allison McCain's. His father never had a house anywhere as big as that 3 story motel. And it was his father and uncle who built the empire. Spend'r if you've got'r. What in the world do you do with so much house? :D
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« Reply #1061 on: July 19, 2022, 08:09:25 AM »
A lot of the ones from the roaring '20's got turned into multi unit apartments in their final demise. I would be less concerned with spanking the developer, he is responding to the whims of the market. That is where the thinking problem is, our "wants". There will always be a few castles. we have somehow screwed up our minds to thinking every wannabee needs a castle. Enough of them are barren inside, spending money we don't have to impress people we don't know. 
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« Reply #1062 on: July 19, 2022, 08:13:47 AM »
Agree Don, that's sort of like the guy who logs with a farm tractor wishing doom onto the guy who goes full mechanical.
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« Reply #1063 on: July 19, 2022, 09:08:59 AM »
Around here folks are getting quoted $300+ / square foot to build on land they own, and I am talking a nice home, nothing fancy or ornate.  
Sheesh, this is insane. A 2,000 sq ft home would be $600,000. I can't wrap my head around that.
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« Reply #1064 on: July 19, 2022, 10:51:06 AM »
Around here folks are getting quoted $300+ / square foot to build on land they own, and I am talking a nice home, nothing fancy or ornate.  
That’s the same here. You can get one of the slap em up pre planned crews for about 150-200/ft depending on the model. 15 years ago those same guys were doing it for 40-50. Anything even semi custom though is $300/ft and they’ve got work lined up for 2 years or so. What we really need out here are masons. Almost none around and folks need their imitation river rock chimney.
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« Reply #1065 on: July 19, 2022, 12:12:11 PM »
Those who are spending their money is what keeps people working. 
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« Reply #1066 on: July 19, 2022, 01:59:49 PM »
I suspect they are spending the banks money. 
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« Reply #1067 on: July 19, 2022, 02:49:38 PM »
The job figures, it turns out can't even be trusted. Recent audit up here showed unproven/unsubstantiated numbers drummed up under a federal program. Of those that were suppose to be real, a 5th of those claimed,  they lack evidence of existence. :D
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« Reply #1068 on: July 19, 2022, 05:12:29 PM »
#1 pressure treated syp 2x6x16= 17.99 yesterday at small but wonderful hardware store.

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« Reply #1069 on: July 25, 2022, 10:18:06 AM »
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« Reply #1070 on: July 25, 2022, 04:52:17 PM »
About 2 years ago and current price, identical nails;



Lumber is part of it but the nickel and dime stuff is really adding up.
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« Reply #1071 on: July 25, 2022, 06:58:07 PM »
So it appears lumber prices are dropping like a lead balloon .  I won't be the local hero much longer. The real problem for me is my fuel cost. It was good [for me] while it lasted.

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« Reply #1072 on: July 25, 2022, 07:53:14 PM »
Lots of thoughts on this as I heal up (and I will say that this robotic surgery was just amazing.  Just amazing- on my feet and eating most foods and using bathroom and no pain meds but for Advil).

A lot of new mills were built over the last 4 years in a belt across the south from TX to FL so capacity finally caught up to demand just as demand started to fall due to raging inflation.  

Gas prices are falling, housing sales have slowed a lot, walmart cut earning forecasts, etc.  OTOH manufacturing growth is strong, labor is tight, wages have stayed up.  What happens now will be studied by economics students for decades to come.  Coin toss for a sharp recession or soft landing.  Will be interesting and will surely be impacted by global events in China and Europe.  At the end of the day we're short some housing- 1 million or 3 million units -who knows.  We're short some.  

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« Reply #1073 on: July 26, 2022, 07:26:00 PM »
Red Oak/White Oak/ Hard Maple/Poplar/Walnut lumber pretty well down across all grades. Ash is holding but most of ours is gone. Red Oak is getting to the point that if you figure a 300mbf saw bill and 300mbf logging bill there is very little left for stumpage. When landowners pull the plug is usually what stops the free fall.


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Re: Lumber prices too high
« Reply #1074 on: July 27, 2022, 08:01:44 AM »
Interest rates went from 2 1/2% to 5 1/2%.  On a $400,000 loan, that is $12,000/ year or $1000/mo  just in extra interest making the monthly payment out of reach for a good number of people.  Any wonder people quit buying.  But then again, rents are soaring, so what is a person to do.  A lot of people are going to get run over by the bus.
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« Reply #1075 on: July 27, 2022, 06:33:59 PM »
A lot of people up here have built tiny homes or shacks in the last 3-4 years, that's what they are doing. I know of 5 here in a 5 mile circle. I know of two outfits building them, but I know even more that built their own. They are sitting in rural places where old homesteads once sat. Most are off grid around here, solar and battery. Three of the 5 that I know of are on family land. But living in shacks is nothing new. Been going on for a long time.
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