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Bruno of NH

Quote from: beenthere on July 21, 2022, 07:27:42 PM
I fab'd my forks to also fit on the 3pt hitch. Was easy to do using the quick hitch. Just pick up and go. Helps a bunch to have the hydraulic top arm.



  

To convert the loader forks over to the quickhitch, added top hook brackets A & B, then round stock C for the lower quick hitch hooks.



Very nice Sir
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

YellowHammer

The heavier a tractor the more useful it is.  Horsepower, frame size, and hydraulic  cylinder size.  Bigger is better.

It's hard to lift 5,0000 lbs if the tractor only weighs 4,0000.
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Bruno of NH

YH
You are right a heavy framed tractor will handle the big loads.
I like the heavy weight of the Mahindra I had , but I wouldn't buy one again for 2 reasons.
1st the dealer I had wasn't good at their after the sale job.
2nd Mahindra's quality is still not ready for prime time Sunday Football night in America. 
If anyone has questions I would be glad to answer them.
Quality is mid level at best.
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Bruno of NH

I have a used Kubota L series coming on September 1st.
I buying it from my uncle.
Low hours not used hard.
It's mostly for non mill task , rear snow blower , brush hoging , light grapple work. 
Could load small logs in a pinch. 
It would never lift the packs of lumber I make now.
It's to good of a deal to pass up.
It's open station and will need guarding added for my tasks.
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

thecfarm

Hope your dealer is better getting parts on that Kubota than mine were.  >:(  >:(  :(
Yes, there is the internet, but dealers should be able to get a part before 2 weeks.  ???  
I went to 2 different dealers,  ::) 2 weeks!!!!!!  :o
I traded it in for a NH. There was a salesman in town, 3-4 days, part at my door step.  ;D
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Bruno of NH

Ray 
We are very lucky with 2 Kubota dealers not to far from me .
Both have excellent parts departments.
My first tractor I got was a Kubota from one of them.
Didn't know how well I had it till I tried 2 other brands .
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

moodnacreek

The big difference between a 4x4 tractor and an equal h.p. skid steer [wo tracks] is the ground they stand over or some say foot print. Said another way the size of the mud hole. A s.s. will get stuck bad in a small mud hole and the tractor needs a bigger mud hole to get stuck.  In a small area [with no mud] a skid is very fast and handy. The one machine I liked for a sawmill yard is the backwards tractor fork lift.

barbender

One point I always try to make when this subject comes up is not all skid steers are the same. I realize not all tractors and forklifts are either, but when people read skid steer or "Bobcat" a lot of folks' minds go to a Bobcat 743 sized machine or even one of the older, smaller ones. The only similarity those bear to modern machines is you still have to crawl in the front to get in and they steer by driving and braking on opposite sides. If you compare the power and stability of a 743 to say Yellowhammer's Kubota SVL-95...well, they don't even compare.
Too many irons in the fire

YellowHammer

That is a fact, I researched every skid steer and track loader made, and settled on the one I have now.  Basically a 100 hp, will lift up the world, turn on a dime and give a nickel change.  Way fast, and super stable.  I personally hated skid steers for many years, until they came out with joystick controls and high flow system compact track loaders. These new generation are strong enough to lift up the logs and the trailer they are on at the same time...well, maybe not that much, but every person who's gotten in and driven it, has said "wow" and so did I.  Since it's heavily counterbalanced in the rear, weighs in at about 12,000 pounds, big loads on the forks just make it sit more stable and increases traction.

Its a second generation DEF system, SVL97-2, and with forks and a 4 way bucket will do things with dirt and logs that a monkey couldn't do with a hot banana.

One thing that comes to mind, I don't let anybody drive my T4.95 New Holland tractor.  It's a little too complicated, a little too tippy with big loads, has a few too many gears and a little too intimidating. It's easy to damage in the wrong hands and has almost the exact same HP as the Kubota.

Conversely, I let my daughter drive the Kubota, it's fun and very stable with big loads, and next generation easy.  That may be a consideration with hired help, not to mention I can basically remote control and monitor several functions from my cell phone and even set and activate a wireless geo fence so that with the track loader's on board GPS, my phone will sound an alarm, and I think even turn the machine off, (not sure) but certainly not start, if it's ever off my digitally geofenced property.  It's also got an onboard tracker so if it's ever stolen, I and every Kubota dealer in the country can find it.  Pretty cool.  
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Bruno of NH

Tractors and hired help aren't a good combination. When I had the Mahindra 4550 I wouldn't let help run it. Things can go wrong quick on a tractor.
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

moodnacreek

I tried a  [have] a 6 cyl. Thomas skid steer/ forks here. The problem was stacking stickered and spaced packs of lumber.   If a stick or spacer moves you can't get out to fix it.    I think JCB made a machine with a side door however.

alco424

Just to add my two cents, something most people seem to not realize, is that a skid steer's operating capacity is rated at 50% of it's tipping load.  Therefore, the 763 should, and I repeat, should.....lift 3000 pounds before it wants to tip.  Now, that's all in perfect conditions, but just some food for thought.

YellowHammer

I looked real hard at JCB's with the side doors.  They are basically a tele handler without the "tele" or a very short one, maybe 6 feet or so. Trouble is, I had zero local dealers and the closest one around was going to charge me $1,000 for labor and mileage for a warranty call.  No bueno!

YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

barbender

I've never been able to make much sense of the operating and tipping loads...out where I run my machine where the ground is not level and bumpy, you can be well under the tipping load and still end up on your nose with lumber all over the ground. With the short wheelbase, skids suffer far more from having the balance point shifted by a heavy load. A load that seemed totally under control tips the machine forward when you back over a piece of firewood you didn't see, that kind of stuff. I think a realistic load you can move around with is more around a third of operating load.
Too many irons in the fire

Walnut Beast

Quote from: alco424 on July 25, 2022, 08:12:58 PM
Just to add my two cents, something most people seem to not realize, is that a skid steer's operating capacity is rated at 50% of it's tipping load.  Therefore, the 763 should, and I repeat, should.....lift 3000 pounds before it wants to tip.  Now, that's all in perfect conditions, but just some food for thought.
And the tipping load is boom fully extended

Ventryjr

Quote from: moodnacreek on July 25, 2022, 08:37:19 AM
I tried a  [have] a 6 cyl. Thomas skid steer/ forks here. The problem was stacking stickered and spaced packs of lumber.   If a stick or spacer moves you can't get out to fix it.    I think JCB made a machine with a side door however.
Kubota CTL the doors open over your head inside the cab. It's still now easy if the forks are 4-5ft off the ground but I can wiggle out of the cab with the load in any position. 
-2x belsaw m14s and a Lane circle mill.

ladylake

 
 Until a hose breaks and the forks come down on top of you.  Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

taylorsmissbeehaven

I can still wiggle out of the cab in a pinch, but not like I could when I was 27!! :D
Opportunity is missed by most because it shows up wearing bib overalls and looks like work.

barbender

I won't get out of my skid with the loader raised unless the safety arm is engaged.
Too many irons in the fire

Walnut Beast

I'll get out of my loader all day long with a 4,000 lb log with the loader above me 

Walnut Beast

Might not be able to tell Barbender and ladylake if it doesn't work out 😂

barbender

Too many irons in the fire

ladylake

 I know of a farmer that got killed doing that.   My brother who is higher up in a big construction company said at a safety meeting that 10 people get killed each year climbing out under the forks.  At his company they are fired if caught doing that.  Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

Hilltop366

Nothing has to break to get you, wouldn't be hard to catch a loose shirt or coat on the leaver while getting out. 

moodnacreek

On the old Thomas you have to hammer the one pin to lock the boom up. Thats what must be done.

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