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« on: March 27, 2021, 01:49:21 PM »
my friend Dallas called and asked if I could help him weld up a cart for his welder.  He showed up with a little buzz box and 2 sticks of angle iron.  This was not my idea, but the old buzz box I had, had two wheels on the back and a swivel caster on the front.  we took some measurements and went to TSC and got two 10 inch wheels with half inch holes and an axle and caps for the ends.  we got a 2 inch swivel caster.  after that was done, we fabed a handle out of 5/8th sucker rod, and then some hooks with 1/4 inch rod.  with all the rain, he has been organizing his shop.



 

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handle painted, and wire leads on hooks.  he is the buddy the went ERCC (eastern redcedar crazy!)



 

 

 

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2021, 02:45:46 PM »
There are friends, and there are good friends. You are one of the latter.  Good job.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2021, 05:59:34 AM »
Great Job, Doc!
Since my "unofficial" Retirement Jan 8th, I've been doing a great deal of Welding/ Brazing. I recently completed a fab of a small trailer to haul my Lincoln Ranger 8000 Welder/ Generator, and it tries to follow my everywhere.....
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2021, 09:31:56 AM »
well would love to see a pic of your trailer OCH.  Dallas and I are always competing to repay the other back.  If others have projects they did to help out a friend or neighbor, feel free to add it to this post.  We all have our talents and tools.  It feels good to get more use from our tools and make a project faster and more polished when it is done.  we get to try new techniques and hone our skills.  
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2021, 10:40:01 AM »
Well done Doc! Simple and effective.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2021, 10:56:26 AM »
I did nearly the exact thing with my Lincoln.  For the handle, I used the top "handle" from an above ground swimming pool ladder.  A piece of 1" or so galvi tube in a nearly-180 bend.  Nice and tall so you don't have to bend over to drag it around.  I used a fixed caster in the front.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2021, 10:58:57 AM »
I told him to get a leash to attach to the welder and a belt loop and it could follow him all over the shop.  it rolls nice and stable up right.  over gravel you can lean it back like a two wheel cart on the 10 inch tires.  they must be made to do this, but did not find a wheel and axle kit at TSC.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2021, 11:00:49 AM »
I was guilt/pity tripped into building this total piece of crap boxed shed from a million tuna can gauge pieces for wifes single mom friend.  It took 2 days just to get it assembled. Quite difficult alone with 5 hyper kids going insane.











It was so flimsy i knew it would need bracing inside or someone would just yank a wall open at any midpoint seam. Shes broke, gave me $40 and these 2x3s came out to $38!  I had to provide the screws and bread rack panelling for shelves. 
















That sucked up a lot of gas money and every sunny day in an otherwise stormy week where all i got done was dishes and laundry on "spring break" [since covid they hardly even go to school anymore] while my own shed project waits and waits and waits.




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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2021, 11:04:50 AM »
hope it comes back to you ten fold Mike!  If the kids get along, maybe she can watch kids so you can get your stuff done someday.   :)
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2021, 11:06:54 AM »
Should try putting a swing set together with 2 grandkids watching and the Grandmother all ready told the grandkids it won't take long to be together.  ::)  About 4-6 hours later, it's up and going.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2021, 11:10:54 AM »
kids can play in the box.  probably on the slide as it lays on the ground.  in the summer it is the pool.  kids have goggles on and it is a 3 day set up and fill.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2021, 11:11:58 AM »
Nice job Mike, no matter the cost to you (within reason) those things always work in your favor. If nothing else, when the frustration fades, you can at least say, 'yeah, I'm glad she's happy with it'.
 Doc I have a lincoln that looks exactly like your buddy's. My Dad did the exact same mod on it 25 years ago using the wheels off of Scotts fertilizer spreader. Works like a charm still. I should add the hooks for the cables, I have a 50' lead for the power and 25' of welding cable. Thats a lot of cable management.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2021, 11:13:06 AM »
Should try putting a swing set together with 2 grandkids watching and the Grandmother all ready told the grandkids it won't take long to be together.  ::)  About 4-6 hours later, it's up and going.
And this (at least in my case) is why Dad's and Grandpa's are often referred to as 'grumpy'. :D ;D
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2021, 11:16:08 AM »
Well.. There was a period where i was quite aggravated.  It started as "help" build a shed but turned into build a shed while the ladies go to dinner and watch her kids and mine.  Then at the end of day 1 its hurry back and finish tomorrow please because i really really want...

Then its hurry up and get the shelves done.  I had to lay down the law about how prime sunny weather to me is like a saturday night to you and im either charging you $100 a day or youre owing me 3 weekend overnights of babysitting so my wife and i can actually have some time together once every few years.  


The girl is a decent person, just was raised by a space cadet mother who doesnt know how to behave.. It was obvious once i met mom and had a few chats with her without my wife getting in the middle.  Theyre just quirky and a little self centered.. Or may not conscious of others.  Had to be reminded your shed isnt my problem, ive got my own. Now we have a clear understanding and were cool.  She appreciates it and my wife is happy that the two of us get along, as there was some issues there.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2021, 01:29:50 PM »
some people you help and they are falling all over themselves to repay the favor.  some cannot and some will not.  Maybe there is a reason she is a single mom. :o sounds mean, but it takes two to tango.  as a pediatrician I deal with it all the time.  most are amazing, but a few use it to there advantage.  we have a lesbian couple we are friends with (in my wife's running group).  My wife was always offering to let me do the jobs they could'nt (although they said they could).  My wife finally figured out when they called, they needed help with something.  OK hate me if you want.  I said not all moms are angels AND I used the word lesbian.   :) :) :)
I like helping people especially those who cannot help themselves.  I will not even start on family.   :D :D :D
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2021, 04:43:36 PM »
Doc I'm not sure how to respond to that last post, so I won't 🤷🏽‍♂️🤪😂
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2021, 07:40:53 PM »
prob. best if only one of us gets sent to the woodshed.  I try to tell it like I see it at least, not sure if that is every one else's reality.
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2021, 08:01:45 PM »
ok back on track.  my friend Dr john Fan had young kids racing along his street and the 16 y/o who took his parents car, no license, and this is his third accident, lost control and hit his mailbox.  John and his son are involved in our troop. John was raised in China in re-education camps and never remembers not being hungry.  



 



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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2021, 09:40:31 PM »
The road up to my street is a fairly steep hill and an S curve.  The bottom of the S is short and a big sweeping top before it goes back to the left and crests the hill.  Maybe 1/10 mile long.

Anyhow, halfway up the hill on the left side, someone racing up went wide and knocked over a mailbox (wood pole).  Had a temp box for maybe a year.  Built a  nice brick one like your friends.  Probably took a month to build.  About a month after completion, got wiped out.  I guess they got a settlement from the drive and a new river rock one was built by a contractor (I presume as it went up pretty fast).  Couple months go by, wiped out again.  Now they just have a box on a wood pole stuck in a cement block sitting next to the busted up one.
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2021, 10:19:37 PM »
my mailbox is a treated pole in a 5 gallon bucket full of firewood and rainwater.  it has never fallen over, even when two barns were blown to pieces.. and is easy to move which has been required a few times to get get big rigs in the gate.  plus its sufficiently redneck and a good directional landmark.  look for the stupid mailbox in a bucket.
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2021, 07:44:47 AM »
One of the young guys at the firehouse is finishing his basement.  Me and the other guys at the house have been helping him along with advice, but he's pretty good with construction as it is.  Recently he was getting ready to rebuild the stairs to the basement.  He had bought a yellow pine premade stair tread that had bullnose and all.  I don't remember what the price was, but it was not cheap.  I told him he was going to have to rip it down to 10" and that since it was yellow pine why didn't he just buy some 2x10s and plane them and then route a bullnose.  He said he would do that.  I brought one of my planers to work the next week so he could plane his boards.  I suggested that he plane each piece on both sides and keep going until he got all treads to have a good side.  I think he ended  up with about 1 3/8" treads.  The following week he was going to do the bullnose and had brought a borrowed router and the 3/4" roundover bit he had bought.  He discovered the router had 1/4" shank and the bit was 1/2" which was not surprising for such a large bit.  He was bummed that he would not be able to get the treads done that day, so I suggested that he come to my house after work the next morning and use my router table to get it done.  He showed up about 9 and I put his bit in the router and showed him how to use it.  I watched him do a few to make sure he would be safe and then left him alone.  After he was done he said he had no use for the bit, so he gave me the bit.  The next time at work he showed me the stairs and he had done a very nice job staining and installing them.
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2021, 08:09:44 AM »
Mail boxes ,hmm .Seems to be great sport for country bumkin crowd to take target practice on with beverage bottles ,rocks and baseball bats .On top of that snow plows get their share of them too .I had a spare box set in a 5 gallon bucket full of stone for about 2 months because the ground was frozen and I could not drill a new hole .
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2021, 08:55:24 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2021, 01:51:01 PM »
Dang doc, I was just thinking to myself and I said Self, thats only the 2nd thread that youve seen doc in without his beard that youve grown accustomed to seeing in his avatar, so youre going to have to mention it to him when the time is right. Well, this seems as good a time as any. 

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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2021, 01:57:34 PM »
my threads tend to plow a wide girth.   yes I kept the avatar pic, but normally have a beard mid October to at least Jan.  and if camping in the winter, til latter Feb.
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2021, 10:26:13 PM »
Doc, I just saw this welder modification and I am going to borrow it for my older version of the same welder if you don't mind. You lots of "good works" there btw.

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2021, 10:34:56 PM »
you bet.  it was not my idea, but installed on an old buzz box that was given to me.  it appears they are made to do that.  tractor supply 2 inch front swivel caster with a 3/8th inch bolt.  back wheels with 1/2 inch axle and hole size, with 10 inch wheels.  got the axle caps in the same hardware isle.  handle out of sucker rod.  go for it!
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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2021, 07:33:44 PM »
Mine had little wheels maybe from a maybe a small kids wagon either way they were way too light the little tires came off and the axle bowed as well.  I took them off.  It would be nice sometimes  if it was more  mobile. 

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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2021, 09:26:04 PM »
take some measurements and figure the difference from the front with a caster vs the radius of a wheel on an axle.  take a tape measure to the store.  lol
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« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2021, 06:44:09 AM »
Would a 2 wheeler, dolly do it too?
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« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2021, 08:47:22 AM »
that is a good idea.  you would have to tip it, and this can follow being pulled by the leads, (prob. not the best idea).
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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2021, 09:10:10 AM »
Much could be said about the Lincoln "tombstones " .The really old ones were a multi tap ,no selector switch .Followed  by the copper wound with a  switch  and then later aluminum  wound .If I'm not mistaken one variation had a rectifier and thus the option of DC but at a reduced heat range . Lincoln must have made millions of them .

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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2021, 07:56:44 PM »
My "Cabin" Lincoln "tombstone" is permanently ratchet strapped to a two wheel dolly.  I attached a tool tray on the back to hold stuff like c-clamps, chipping hammer, wire brush, etc.  A screwtop welding rod canister is zip tied to an upright.  ;D
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« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2021, 09:41:41 PM »
I've burned a lot of rod with those tombstones. They'll lay a better quality bead than me🤷🏽‍♂️
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2021, 09:57:01 AM »
Aluminum is a cheaper copper replacement that seems to have come about as a consequence of wartime shortage or atleast diversion of copper.  The issue is a thermal one.  Copper is more stable tham aluminum so as the machine runs on and on a copper wound unit will have a more consistent arc from first strike to last than an aluminum one. 


Aluminum wound welders need tweaking to stay steady as they get hot and cool.  So say the pipeliners.. And hence the fabled SA-200's fame.  Its copper wound and is a direct DC generator.. Not an AC rectifier.  Really its a huge starter motor with an AC exciter piggybacked on the shaft to generate the field. 
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2021, 12:26:25 PM »
ok back on track.  my friend Dr john Fan had young kids racing along his street and the 16 y/o who took his parents car, no license, and this is his third accident, lost control and hit his mailbox.  John and his son are involved in our troop. John was raised in China in re-education camps and never remembers not being hungry.  


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new temp mailbox with ERC post.  he will apply spar and numbers.  it is our old mailbox.



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I struggled with this since I read your post as to whether I should even comment on it or not. And my conscience has finally won out, so here goes. I presume you gave him the wooden post, great job !! Not only have you presented a nice gift, you have also brought up a very good point. I don't know the laws in other states, but in NYS it is illegal to put a DFO ( Deadly Fixed Object ) in the highway for a very good reason, your pictures explain it very good. Imagine if, instead of falling in front of the vehicle what the results would have been if the separated portion of the concrete structure had slid up the hood of the vehicle in to the car, serious injury or even the death of the driver/passengers if their were any. Please encourage him to keep the wooden post and get rid of the DFO.. While it's natural to want to protect one's property, is it worth the gamble of taking some one's life because of an error in judgment.. I think not.. now I'm not down playing the drivers actions, but I sure would not want anyone to die because I may have to fix my mail box.

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2021, 12:48:27 PM »
your insight and comments are taken in the spirit intended.  I agree.  not sure about the law, but in this subdivision with lots of nice homes, they are majority masonry mailboxes.  this is a residential street.  So it appears that what ever ordinance allows this.  they are at a stand still waiting on insurance.  but the mailbox is about half built up.  good advice, and I am trying to help them as they are Chinese and do not fully comprehend building stuff, and insurance ect.  the mason has built many of the homes and mailboxes in this area, so hopefully he is aware.  glad no one died.  I remember some folks after several issues with people hitting mailboxes (intentionally) they reinforced them to do damage to the cars.  I had a friend who had people run up in the front yard at night and spin tires, ruin lawn.  so his dad mad a board with nails sticking up and painted it green.  they did find the car a block away and figured out who was doing it.  Thanks for the concern @Remle 
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