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Re: Current Emerald Ash Borer Information.
« Reply #540 on: August 09, 2019, 11:59:37 AM »
Can someone sum up the basics here

I don't think i have this green one but my wood pile is crawling with  



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they are defiantly destroying the wood i was cutting on my mill for a barn shelter ..

is this a bigger problem then i know ?

i mean do i just burn the wood pile now ..

will they move to the house next ...

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Re: Current Emerald Ash Borer Information.
« Reply #541 on: September 08, 2020, 11:57:20 PM »
New to the forum, but I discovered an EAB bug in an Ash tree we cut down in central NC. made a chair out of the wood and was wondering if it may hatch larvae later. It is a post and rung chair from greenwood. What do you all think?

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Re: Current Emerald Ash Borer Information.
« Reply #542 on: September 09, 2020, 06:38:01 AM »
New to the forum, but I discovered an EAB bug in an Ash tree we cut down in central NC. made a chair out of the wood and was wondering if it may hatch larvae later. It is a post and rung chair from greenwood. What do you all think?
The EAB survive on the cambium (inner bark) of the tree and do not bore into the wood. This is why you see tracks when you peel the bark. They cannot subsist on a dead tree, they need healthy live bark. When they kill a tree, they move on and kill another.
 It is rare to find an EAB on a dead tree. Your chair will be fine on that score, however, powder post beetles are a different story. ;D
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Re: Current Emerald Ash Borer Information.
« Reply #543 on: September 09, 2020, 11:54:36 PM »
Thank you for your welcome and reply. Glad to be able to post here now. Been struggling with PP beetles too. Guess there are some good posts here on that as well. So much to know about Greenwood harvest and drying. Look forward to learning more here.

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Re: Current Emerald Ash Borer Information.
« Reply #544 on: September 10, 2020, 06:46:25 AM »
Bugs is bad! We all know that. As I am milling EWP right now, I am dealing with these little [deleted word]:


 
These are pine borers and it only takes a few days with the logs on the ground for these stinkers to set up shop.
 Sounds like you are soaking up info where you can, like me, always reading. I'd suggest using that button at the top of the home page that says "read most recent posts" and you won't miss anything. Also, using the search tool can be quite helpful, I am guessing that is how you found this older thread. Interesting things show up in what you might think were unrelated categories or threads. This site has been a super learning tool for me, and I hope it will be for you also.
 Good luck and have fun!
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Re: Current Emerald Ash Borer Information.
« Reply #545 on: September 10, 2020, 06:50:37 AM »
I was cutting spruce poles last weekend for my winter shelter when I go snow shoeing. There was sawyer beetles buzzing me as I was putting up the poles. I said, "what the heck?" and seen what they was. :-\
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« Reply #546 on: September 10, 2020, 07:04:57 AM »
Yeah, when I get a chance I am going to have to look up the life cycle of these [things] because it amazes me how fast they take hold. I found beetles and also larvae in the outer bands of a few of these logs already, I am guessing if I understood them better I could figure out how long they had been at work. The first and healthiest log had a ton of the little devils (larval form) just under the bark. The sounds they make are just incredible and hard to believe at times. They feel vibrations when you approach and stop chewing. You have to sit by a log pile for a few minutes quietly until they resume chewing and then you can hear quite the show.
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« Reply #547 on: September 11, 2020, 10:12:54 AM »
The EAB has moved on in this area .Of course it killed every ash tree larger than about 3 inches .The small trees it didn't bother most likely because they didn't have enough inner bark to support the larva .
I have a zillion little saplings that sprang up when clearings were opened up with the large tree die off .I'm going to transplant some down both sides of my driveway .It's now got a bunch of silver and red maple that are dying off .These maples are not typically long lived for some reason .
I have no idea the origin of where these soft maples come from because the resident maples are sugar maple .They can get some size to them and get rather large and obviously live a long time .It's not uncommon for a 100 footer,I have several .

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« Reply #548 on: September 13, 2020, 04:31:36 AM »
Have not seen any signs of it on the woodlot and I have a lot of ash, it grows like a weed anywhere there is light hitting the ground.

Years ago dad cut lots of large ash here off my ground. No hardwood grows much taller than 80 feet up here, the odd one 90 on the best of sites. But they do get over 40" across, but really old at that size. DNR don't even tally them as 40", their tables only go up to 18". Heck lots of fir that size around here, when you don't keep clear cutting every 30 years. All they want to push is low grade wood products. And that is what the majority of mills want, because its all about pulp. Way more wood through the grinders than through a saw. ::) Since back in the 80's whole 100+ acre tracks of hardwood where ground up on site. Very few logs taken, and most hardwood mills here are run seasonal. Garant is the only local mill using ash for value added and that is handle and bat wood. Hardly show up on a graph of wood products. Lots of black looking logs in their yard, so not sawing much.
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« Reply #549 on: September 13, 2020, 05:24:00 AM »
I like ash lumber for some things .Trim.woodwork etc .It air dries down to the point it's stable,takes stains well .It's so hard you can't drive a nail in it without a pilot  hole .It's kind of rot resistant in a way .
At one time ash made up 20 percent of all the trees in Ohio and I doubt if many lived except new sprouts .Those if they live will take over 100 years before another 100 footer is ever seen .I've got some sprouts that are about maybe 3-4 inch and 12-15 feet tall .I guess time will tell that tale .
They are like an oak tree .If they aren't grown in competition for sunlight they will never make 80-100 foot tall .

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« Reply #550 on: March 04, 2022, 10:39:40 PM »
Has it gotten to South Carolina yet?
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« Reply #551 on: March 04, 2022, 10:56:41 PM »
 



The red dots in the image are where infestations have been detected.  The Dept of Agriculture has dropped quarantines on the EAB as it has not been effective.  They are now trying parasitic wasps as well as aggressive logging.

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« Reply #552 on: March 04, 2022, 10:58:47 PM »
Its sickening looking at all the dead ash trees in my woods from years ago that got infected and went to waste and some big ones. 

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« Reply #553 on: March 04, 2022, 11:32:05 PM »

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The red dots in the image are where infestations have been detected.  The Dept of Agriculture has dropped quarantines on the EAB as it has not been effective.  They are now trying parasitic wasps as well as aggressive logging.
Thanks. Looks like it has crept into my corner of SC. Interesting it has mostly stayed out of my two home states--SC and Maine.
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