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Re: Power outage well pump solution
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2021, 06:21:19 AM »
In my grandfather's day, she was all hand pumped. When we moved into great grandfather's old house 50 years ago, it was a hand pump and dad put in an electric and ran the line in. These days in new house, I just use the generator on backup, same old well. All my gardens are watered from creek water and Honda water pump, 60 gallon tank. Of course that isn't watering 5 acres. ;D  I never water from well water, and would not think of watering 5 acres from a well. Good drinking water is too precious. My well is 80 feet and has taken 4 very dry summers in a row. Never drained her in 50 years. :) I like my generator set up. Clip a switch on the breaker, turn a key to crank up the generator. We have a lot of outages here, Arthur was a week long, but most are 2 hours long. You don't have to run a generator all day anyway, you can recharge your holding tank every once in a while and recharge the freezer and fridge every so often, so maybe 4hr on 4hr off. Waste of fuel, to run one all day in a crisis situation if you don't need all that power all the time. But people will run them through the whole marathon. :)
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2021, 08:09:13 AM »
Just as general info during a over load situation usually during the hot summer months the power company can regulate the voltage in sections .By driving the voltage level low things like freezers will not cycle .What they do is stagger sections to go to full voltage about 20 minutes every two hours .
They claim if the refridgerators are not open and shut often this will prevent food spoilage .


 

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2021, 01:36:28 PM »
 You don't have to run a generator all day anyway, you can recharge your holding tank every once in a while and recharge the freezer and fridge every so often, so maybe 4hr on 4hr off. Waste of fuel, to run one all day in a crisis situation if you don't need all that power all the time. But people will run them through the whole marathon. :)
When we flooded in 03 the railway and highway bridges were washed out and it was over a week before any fuel or groceries could come in the valley and the lineups were long. I keep 15 gals of gasoline for the generator plus the truck and tractor are always above 3/4 tank. The nearest potable surface water here is around 3 miles away and standing in line is not my favourite pastime. We were without power in the heat of August for 3 days a few years ago and we kept the fridge and freezers going with the generator twice a day while our neighbour covered his freezer with sleeping bags and blankets and that worked well for him. 
I always tried to teach our kids to be prepared to be a help and not helpless in times of trouble and let resources be used for those that need them most and that was because my dad would often say how thankful he was to not have to look on helplessly while his children starved.
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2021, 03:59:59 PM »
Since 1996 I've only been on an extended time of 4 days without power .That happened during  the largest ice storm in the country in over 100 years  and Lima Ohio was the epicenter of it .That one took down100 plus feet oak trees over 200 years old .One inch of ice broke them like tooth picks .
During that time I ran on  a 5000 watt gasoline generator that used about 5 gallons in 9 hours .We had water, two refridgeraters ,Television and computers plus the fan for the wood stove insert  .Coffee pot and used a hot plate instead of  the kitchen range .Warm as toast with plumbing and cold beer and hot food,it wasn't that bad .I went through a bunch of gasoline which was around a dollar a gallon but I didn't freeze any pipes .

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2021, 11:13:51 AM »
Good thing about my forced air furnace is it takes very little power in case of an outtage and in need of generator. Of course better is an efficient stove in the middle of the house if you don't want forced air. But you build a house with some kind of fall back plan. So forced air works for me. I can use convection all day long, and if sunny don't need any fire at all, zip. In 1998 ice storm all we had was a forced air furnace on convection, no generator. I think that was a 5 day deal. Down at the barn we had water on gravity fed spring, fill the cream cans. I stayed as a kid at a lady's house (1970's), she hauled all her water in cream cans from her mother's house. I been around the hauling drinking water gig and I'm not old, yet. :D
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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2021, 02:26:07 PM »
 

 

We replaced our other wood stove with this a year and a half ago and it heats the whole house and our food too. It burns around 4-5  cord a year and the furnace hasn't been on since. Most cooking is done with it between oct- april
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2021, 02:34:27 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2021, 02:47:00 PM »
I am very lucky to have bought a farmhouse that has a gravity-fed spring (not sure when spring was plumbed in, but house is circa 1875). Spring is about 2,500 ft away and feeds into a 250gal tank in our basement. Shallow well pump & pressure tank in the basement is only to provide pressure for the house. I run excess water into the field during winter so line does not freeze. Had that happen once before I began the trickle one fall.
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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2021, 02:57:20 PM »
Our neighbour two doors over has a spring with all the water he needs and it sounds like a similar system to yours. It would be great to have a similar system.
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2021, 03:03:59 PM »
In Maiden Spring in Tazewell County VA, a 100-year-old ram pump supplied water to the farm above, probably over 1500 feet distant and 100 feet higher in elevation. As of a few years ago this pump was still running. No electricity, only hydraulic pressure from the large karst spring.


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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2021, 03:07:21 PM »
The old spring I mentioned provided water at my grandparents house, and watered the cattle in the barn. My cousin later used it up until 2003 I think and then drilled a well. It would go dry some summers. But the next place down was all on springs and never went dry. Great grandfathers had a cistern for capturing rain water in the basement. There were lots of houses up here with cisterns. Up the road a mile was an old place, house was gone when I was a kid, we used to stop at the spring house when bicycling up there. We'd be coming and going from trout fishing. Cousin tore it out. Wasn't thinking straight, that one. :D
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2021, 03:27:27 PM »
We had a couple springs we got water at on the farm when working in the fields, they'd be off in the woods a couple steps.
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2021, 10:14:26 AM »
We've bought some pumps from these folks in Maine and have been very happy NEMO SOLAR DC SUBMERSIBLE WELL PUMPS ? Affordable USA Made Solar water pumps -- using submersible in a well and another in a spring box and one surface pump fed by gravity from a spring. So far have powered them with solar panels (get a low voltage disconnect if doing this) and off vehicle batteries. Right now with the well for the livestock when we go there in the morning and evening we connect via jumper cables to whatever we drove there, tractor, UTV, car, truck and let water pump while doling out the feed. Just another option to consider if you need water but don't have the cash for a bison or simplepump.

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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2021, 05:15:25 PM »
I installed this on my well. Pumping from 40 feet. When power is out I cap spout and connect garden hose from check valve I installed on pump to my outside faucet. This allows me to fill my pressure tank and take showers or whatever I need. Water heater is propane no electricity required. New house has flowing well about 3000 gallons per day. Hope to use overflow to raise trout.

 


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