I thought I would start a new thread about another project I'm about to start. My REAL job has been keeping me occupied totally lately (designing new homes) and I've not posted in quite a while. Anyway, the plan is to build a greenhouse down here in Louisiana to take advantage of our mild winters....don't count the one we just had! I hope to get it done this spring/summer so that I can begin seedlings for our yard, and then vegetables and citrus in the future. I just completed a concrete driveway, and had to wait until it was put in so that I could plant shrubbery in the right places. It just feels like the right time to take the plunge and just do it.
Over the last year, I've collected quite a number of same sized wooden window sashes. I'm going to start the project by assembling them into frames so that the lower will fold up onto the upper for air circulation in the summer. I'll have to also install half inch mesh to prevent animals coming into the structure. This past weekend, I found enough glass and solid old doors for the project, which I'll sand and paint to look good as new. I'm going to use treated lumber for the window and door frames, as well as the front framing, which will all be exposed to constant water and humidity. There will be a storage area in the back center for lawn mowers and garden tools. The growing area will be a "U" shaped around it. Of course, it will face south, and be passive solar...about thirty feet long and about twenty feet deep. That will be determined after all the windows and doors are framed.
I'll start with pouring a perimeter footing and placing a slab where the storage area will be. I'll then build a three block high wall on the front and half way down the sides, place a sill on the block, and place the windows on top of that. I'll frame the storage walls up, and then build a block wall eight feet high wall in the middle of the building. This will hold heat from the sun, and dissipate it back out at night. I'll also place barrels of water in front of it to also retain heat. There will be small windows in the top to let air escape in the summer.
The front roof will be typical corrugated greenhouse material, but the back half will be metal. The back half of the building will be insulated also. I'll build in a gable end fan with a thermostat for circulation also.
I de-grassed the area today. I'll try to post some pictures along the way and let you know how it goes! Later....
room off the back for a shed for the pore ole sawmill ?
All in good time...All in good time!
following:
here is my Harbor Freight build
starting a HF Greenhouse in General Board (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=97497.msg1504967;topicseen#top)
A quick update...I have a man helping me lately since I've been snowed under with work. Currently, we are cleaning and repairing many old wood windows and doors I've collected for the project. I'll repurpose them by reframing them as best as I can using treated boards. This will give me the finished size of the greenhouse. So the design will be determined by the size of the window and door units that we end up with. As soon as that is determined, we'll get started on the foundation and block walls.
Here is a picture of some of the wood windows I've collected:
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Here is a picture of two of the windows placed into a frame. The lower glass will lift for ventilation during the summer. I'll put 1/2" square mesh into the lower opening to prevent animals entering while the windows are open.
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Here is a picture of the area where I'll place the greenhouse. The glass will face to the right which is south.
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This thing sure looks bigger than I thought it would be! We started setting the form for the footings. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19339/DC945E38-F44F-455C-8911-755CFBFA1E1C.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1521248169)
Coming along well, Here's mine.
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You are doing all of that work and dat boat needs to go fishing. fishin-smiley
Gonna be a nice sized GH. I will say though that those old 9 lite windows would bring a fortune selling them to some of the yuppy folks that watch way too much HGTV
MM has a good point. You need to rescue it before it gets trapped.
We was driving around,Otisfield,and a woman had built a greenhouse,kinda like what you are doing. It was on some back road,with me taking lefts and rights and out for a drive I could never find it again. She had taken some windows out of an old school house and put them into her greenhouse. Used the greenhouse poly sheets for the roof. I think she used 2x4's for the framing. It had the window panels,like what you have.It looked great.
We stopped to look at it,her husband was washing his truck. He had no interest at all in it. She built the whole thing herself. She was not there. :( He just told us to go out back and look at it. He was very nice about it,but wanted no part in it.
I love reading the comments.👍 I've had some great help from some local fellows. We had to use quickrete instead of ready mix trucks due to the location. Here's a shot of them mixing and pouring some perimeter footings:
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I did a kind of funky system. We dug down about 6" below grade and put concrete blocks up to the bottom of the form boards about five feet apart. Then we filled dirt up around them up to the bottom of the form boards. Then we concreted the footings, placing two 3/8" rebars into them. So...basically, we had the footings as a beam, and the concrete blocks as columns. It worked well, and saved a ton of back breaking quickrete mixing! You can barely see the outline of a block in this photo:
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I got eight of the windows assembled today. I'm using treated pine for them...ripping pieces on the table saw as I go. I've inserted the half inch welded wire mesh into the frame to prevent animals from getting inside. I'm leaving off the bottom sash until I paint them to avoid painting my bronze hinges!
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I'll keep posting as we make progress. It's supposed to rain a lot this week, which might delay the block wall building, which is next.
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Any treated wood that you rip on the saw I would treat with something like
Copper Green Wood Preservative . Your cutting the protection off as you saw.
Well that's a bummer! Of course, all the windows will be painted. Too late to turn back now. We got all the concrete work done, and after the rain has passed, hope to start laying concrete block on Friday!
The concrete work is done! The next step is to construct a block Trombe wall. I'm going to fill the block voids with rocks left over from my former gravel driveway. The wall will be eight feet high with a 2x8 set on top for a top plate. A Trombe Wall, which is a heat sink, will be hit by the suns rays in the cold months and absorb the heat, and then at night dissipate the heat back into the greenhouse. In the summer, there will be windows above that will remain open for heat to escape.
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We started on the concrete block Trombe wall...got half way up to 8'. We are back filling the block voids with gravel to add mass to hold heat in the winter. When we get to full height, I'll bolt a 2x8 treated plate on to rest the ceiling joists and beams. We stubbed out anchor bolts to bolt the storage room walls to each end for support also. Here's a picture showing progress along with the anchor bolts:
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Here is an overall picture:
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Here is closeup of the textured blocks I'll be using along the front and side walls underneath the windows I'm making:
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Like I said earlier, the sides and front walls will be three blocks high with windows above. The front, or south side, is to the right in the overall photo.
My day job is with a siding and window co. the older glass doors work real well just make sure the ones on the roof are tempered, real nasty to clean up when they aren't next project will be to build a solar kiln
The 8' high block wall is done!! We'll bolt on the 2x8 across the top in the morning. You can barely see the anchor bolts sticking out the top that we will use to secure it. I'm going to temporarily brace the wall so that a strong wind will not topple it before the framing starts. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19339/B6C5CD39-18A0-4C11-A928-0F282C55D0A9.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1524086898)
The 2x8 treated top plate is now bolted on the top of the Trombe wall. Temporary braces were set in place to prevent a strong wind toppling the wall. The front and side three block high wall is now being built.
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More progress on the front three block high wall. It will be painted later, so block color was not important. A 2x8 will be set on the front wall. The windows will be set on that. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19339/F6ECAE52-24EA-4687-BA00-894198D8BBB2.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1524785039)
I have greenhouse Envy !
popcorn_smiley :P
The block
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work is done AND painted!
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Looks good!! You will enjoy the greenhouse. Have water to it?
You gonna have to cut your grass before lawn long. :)
Yep...gonna have city water run to it (stubbed out a 3/4" pvc under the footing), as well as 110v ac. I'm also going to rig a pump of some sort to a water hose in order to use pond water for the plants. The city water is for a sink I'll use inside the greenhouse.
I finally had some time to start working on the greenhouse doors. I found some old doors down at our local antique alley (where Miss Kay Robertson's sweet shop is!) I started by replacing all the missing panes of glass. Next, I filled in where the old door knobs were with scrap wood and glue, and then filled in all the voids with wood and filler. I want to be able to use typical door knobs and have them keyed alike to my house. (Update: After completing the frame with screen doors, there was insufficient clearance to use a standard door knob. I had to special order a passage set with a thumb turn knob to fit between the French doors and the screen doors.)
Here they are set in treated frames.
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There will be screen doors set into the jamb which will swing out when the French doors are open in the summer. I began glueing up the screen doors today....a total of four:(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19339/DA8A0797-FE16-4B38-8B76-6C36601B186D.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1548374735)
Tomorrow I'll make some half round mold and place into the center of the screen doors, install the half inch welded wire mesh, and finally secure the wire with staples and a small trim. I'll try to post pictures tomorrow.
Thanks
Finally I am to the point where I can start to stand up walls, since the size of doors and windows are known. I had to build the frames for the recycled old doors and windows, and wanted the rough openings to fit with no issues. I decided to start with the rear walls first. I'm working alone, and it's slow,but steady! The storage area feels larger than I had imagined, which is great! We plan on storing lawnmowers,including a riding mower, along with garden tools and shovels as well as fishing supplies for the pond. Here's a couple of photos of progress as of today:
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Another side wall up today...the first short wall on the blocks.
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This is the way I build up the short walls...it makes for comfortable nailing height. They stand up easily onto the blocks after framing.
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I am happy! All the walls are up. I'm tired, but happy. My brother showed up out of the blue today and helped me unannounced. He is awesome! Anyway, Monday I'll finish the top plate double out, and get it lined up. The next big thing is the rear joists and rafters. Thanks to all for putting up with all these progress posts from me. I like to use the forum for a reference for myself for later. Thanks Jeff!(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19339/3FD53C80-1C86-4D8E-98E2-F7E40745CCFE.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1552773869)
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I can't figure out why all the jibberish appeared on my last post. Maybe Jeff can fix it?
Because you are copy and pasting from another location. Obviously a mac
Quote from: Jeff on March 27, 2019, 05:51:22 PM
Because you are copy and pasting from another location. Obviously a mac
Thanks Jeff! I did not know that. Consider me informed.
I would have to fix it the same way you should. Click on modify post and remove all the extra curricular stuff and save it
It's interesting working by yourself. Like assembling support walls up in the air! One down, one to go!
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Looks good. Try putting up trim boards on the eves by yourself. :(
Yep.
a ladder, or tractor to hold one end, then you on the other end.
"let the machines do the work"
A single nail is my best friend. He holds the other end up while I start on this end.
My sister had some timber cut on some acreage. There were a few cypress located on the tract. The timber guys cut them and set them aside for me. I went over today and took a look....three of the nicest logs! I cut them into 12' lengths for my norwood lumbermate. I got two from each one, with about an eight foot leftover at the base end of each one. When I get them here, the plan is to make my beveled lap siding I've posted about before, which I plan on using inside and outside the greenhouse on the walls. I'll also get the fascia and trim boards from them. It will be a nice look I think. I'll take some photos when I can and post.
So today, I fired up my old ford 9n and put a set of old forks on the three point hitch. I've had them for years and never used them. The thought I had was to chain a log to it to bring the end of the log off the ground for an easy pull. It worked well. The old dirt road was about a mile long to get to them, and I was able to drag two of them to my mill. There are eight left. I hope to pull them all here next week...a few each day. It's a lot of effort, but will be a great reward in order to have plenty of wood for the greenhouse, inside and out. I took a picture as I was towing a 12' log. Man...that old tractor was pulling its heart out, since this thing weighs a ton. I'll post more photos later.
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That is some nice heartwood in that Cypress log. ;D
I can't wait to saw them up Magic! It's been quite a while since I've used the Norwood...been busy drawing plans. But I try to do a bit everyday on the build....slow and steady! Hope y'all are doing well!
I've had a bit of a slow down. The old ford 9n seemed to die on me under the tremendous load of the sixth heavy log. All I could do was get it to limp back home. I spent yesterday doing basic idiot check stuff on it that I felt I could handle, along with peppering Pineywoods with a number of dumb questions. I added a gallon of hydraulic fluid, put in some gas treatment (after piney said it might be water in the gas), changed out the spark plugs, and took off the carburetor and cleaned it. I struggled to put the carb back on as I was dealing with a gas leak, but persevered and overcame. I fired it backup, and it roared back to Life! I'm still not sure if it is ok until I put it being under load again. I'm optimistic though. I also sent off a bunch of blades for sharpening. Today was a rain day, so I stayed inside and worked. Later....
Update: I got it going again, and decided to go try to get the sixth log home. I did! I told my nephew about my tractor problems, and he said he would bring his trailer with him next time he comes up here and get the last four for me! What a guy. So I'm through pulling logs for now! Time to get sawing.
So you "fixed" your tractor by not using it. smiley_thumbsup :D
Ha! Maybe I worded that wrong. I got it running....but the carb still needs adjusting. It successfully pulled that last heavy log to the mill. I cant wait to finally start making the lap siding for the greenhouse...that is, if the norwood will start tomorrow! I've had to wait due to all this rain, and I'm ready to go! I'll be posting pictures as I go. I'm trying to keep a record of building this thing.
You said you will be using water from the pond. No idea the water temp from your pond. We had a green house,sold plants and all that stuff,75 feet long and over flow to 3 cover ups. ;D I had a big plastic container,was a bin on wheels that work had for scraps. We would fill that full of water from the well,water temp about mid 40's,way to cold for plants to use,no idea the gallons,guess 300 gallons.We would let that warm up and draw the water from that. We went to many greenhouse and they all had hot waters heaters to heat the water. Do you like water in the mid 40's. :o The plants can not use the water until it warms up. You almost shock the plants because of the cold water.
Keep that Old Ford going!!!!
You might want to give that old 9N a log arch for its birthday. Be nice to the old fella. :)
Good to know about water temp! I'm in Louisiana, so I don't think I'll worry too much about it. A log arch would be fine, but dragging them around works for the small amounts that I use for my self. Here's a photo of the logs ready to mill:
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Here's the first 8" wide cant, ready to cut into lap siding. I have a thread from years back about making lap siding.
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Here's the fruit of the first 12' log...28 pieces of lap siding, a couple of 1x8s, and ten 1x4s:
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It took all I had to turn this monster. It was about 22" in diameter. I managed barely by using the winch and my cant hook. I got some nice boards out of it though! A lot of 1"x12"s and 1/2" x 12"s. I'll use the inch stuff for shelves and the 1/2" for soffit boards. The saw is cutting great! First time on it in six months. It is nice to be able to cut exactly what you need. The greenhouse is going to be cool (one day!)
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It will be another week or so before I'll get my blades back from the blade sharpener. Pineywoods saved the day for me yesterday by sharpening a couple of blades so that I won't have to wait and lose this good weather we've had the last few days. Anyway, the mill has an engine problem. It just stops mid cut...as though it is not getting gas. My first thought was a dirty carb. I had a local fellow take a look. He found a rotted vacuum hose, and replaced that...still stopped. He said it was most likely the fuel pump, which I had replaced a year or so ago. I'll put another one on in the morning and give it a try. Anyway, here is a picture of me cutting the lap siding.
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I had a great day at the mill until the last thing. First, I replaced the fuel pump on the 23 hp engine, which fixed the stopping and starting problem I experienced last week. That was a good first step. Next, I finished up sawing lap siding from the previous day, which was left due to the engine problem. The next step was to load the largest diameter twelve foot long log I have to saw. I decided to offload some of the prior sawn lumber from my trailer into the solar dry kiln in order to free up more space for the lap siding. I had previously sawn a lot of eight foot pieces from two eight foot logs. Since my kiln holds sixteen foot lengths, I needed to stack them inside first. So I headed over and did that. Here's a photo of the beginning of stocking them inside:
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After that task was done, I shut the kiln doors and backed my trailer back over to the mill again. I was pretty wiped out at this point. The last thing I had to do was get the heaviest log I have to saw on the bed of the mill, which I plan on starting tomorrow. I first tried to use my cant hook to roll the log into position to winch it onto the bed. I could not even turn the log. I then used the tractor to push the log into position to the winch ramps. That took some tight maneuvering, and I almost wore out my clutch! Anyway, then I winched the log onto the bed after setting up the log stops. After it arrived and dropped onto the bed, the stop FELL over, and the HEAVY log rolled off the other side and crashed my winch post, which seemed to bend from the weight. I couldn't believe it! Oh well. So I grabbed the cant hook and strained MY guts out to turn it back on over the bed rests, but that wasn't happening. I pulled the tractor to the other side of the mill and tried to lift it with the forks, but that was not happening either....doing wheelies and spinning the wheels. I finally thought I should be pulling from the other side, but was afraid of damaging the bed. Using my finicky grapple hook, I grabbed my hammer and drove it deep into the log and routed a chain to try to roll it back up from the opposite side. Success! This effort ended up taking an HOUR to do, but I persevered! Tomorrow is another day.
Wow. Been about six months since last working on the greenhouse! The summer was so hot here in the south, I stayed inside and worked from my desk. It finally cooled down this month, and I got out there for the last three days and assembled the upper vent window framing. That was not fun doing it by myself...but I overcame! Here is a photo of the lastest. Next I'll be cutting the rear rafters and putting them on...solo. I can wait.
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Last week, I began to add rafters to the rear half of the greenhouse. This area will have a metal roof. The front half will have greenhouse roof panels. I will post photos as I go along with this project for my own progress recollection, as well as to have continuous beginning to end construction photos...although it is, and will take, many months to do so!
One more step forward. ;D
A little more progress today...back on it tomorrow. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19339/8B47723C-3B6B-4EE9-B46E-6E43C2701B3F.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1575679534)
That is looking pretty good, I just dropped by and read your whole thread. Now I get to follow along.
Thanks a lot for reading. I'm trying to document it to maybe give inspiration to others...especially if it works well! Tomorrow, I'll be unloading the wood cut on my norwood lumbermate out of the kiln. I need to see if I have enough cut already to do the fascia around the rafters that are set. I'm about to have the rear half roof metal put on next week by a crew. I plan on finishing the rear upper portion...trim, paint, windows, etc., before I put on the front rafters for easier access to work.
I had some folks install the metal on the back side of the greenhouse...a little more progress!
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Looking good my friend. 8)
Back in my shop today building the top vent windows. They are made to open in summer, and have wire mesh to keep out critters.
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I'll do touch up painting after they are installed. It a whole lot easier to pre paint most parts.
Got a little siding on this past weekend before all the rain down here...a little progress!
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Whats all that green stuff on the ground? ;D
Uhhhh....grass?
Quote from: Planman1954 on February 13, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
Uhhhh....grass?
OH, sorry. Just haven't seen it in a while. ;D
That greenhouse is looking mighty fine! I can't wait to see it closed in.
In between the monsoon season we have been experiencing down here in Louisiana, I was able to do a little more on the greenhouse. I finished painting the rear siding:
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Next, I preprinted all the parts of the front rafter system, including all the blocking used in the assembly. Yesterday I got them nailed on:
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Next step is to paint the 2x4s for the roof panels. I'll nail them on top of the painted rafters and then apply the clear roof panels on top. Making progress!
Hey, that is shaping up quite nicely. 8)
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Gable end blocking done.... Time now to start on the upper vent window area...I'm dreading doing that!
Today I put in a day like I USED to do in my thirties...I'm 65 now. I'm bushed! Went from 7 to 4:15 on the roof...up and down the ladder cuttin and a nailin. I kept hittin the top of my head on the same spot over and over...talk about hurt! Oh well...got it ready to paint tomorrow and then the part I dreaded will be DONE. I'm a happy little boy.
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Looks good.
I know temps are different where you are. Some green houses are rolling up the sides to get the hot air out. Cuts down on running fans and saves money.
This one will open up all around and vent out the top through those windows I just put in. I got the top painted today:
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It is coming together nicely!
Don't know what the temperatures are in your area during winter, but was wondering if you need to insulate the building to help hold the heat on cloudy days and cold nights. Would be fun to build a similar building here in Kansas, but the county would probably up my valuation by 100,000 for such a building.
I plan on insulating the rear and side walls, as well as the rear metal roof ceiling. I'll post photos as I go.
One more small step completed today....the front cornice. I'll paint it as soon as I get the courage to go inside the store to buy caulk!
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Call the store up. Have them get the caulking for you. Pay with a card over the phone, curbside pick up.
Good idea! Got it this am and touched nothing but the caulk...then I hand sanitized when back in the car. I feel like Howard Hughes! Anyway, since it is raining AGAIN for a few days, I came back in the workshop and started painting my French doors I talked about earlier in the thread. I got one pair painted today, and will try to do the other tomorrow. I'll put on another coat after I install them soon.
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I started working on the front today. I have the cornice completed and installed the windows. Wow. That made me think it really is going to be a REAL greenhouse!!
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Those windows look good.
That's way to nice to be greenhouse.
Thanks! It's sure been a long haul working mostly alone. I got the trim on and painted today... worked all day long. I usually go four or five hours, so I'm wiped out..but happy.
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Meanwhile, back over behind the barn, a fellow came over with an awesome trackhoe and filled in a ditch for me. I then graded it smooth with my old 9n ford tractor. This is the new location for my Norwood lumbermate. I can now get back to sawing the rest of the cypress siding I need to finish the greenhouse. I'm happy... another small step.
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You got a good looking 9N there. Good to see one still running. Back in the 80's and early 90's I bought and rebuilt and sold a bunch of 8N,9N fords and 10 and 20 ferguson tractors. The acreage boom was going on around here back then and everyone wanted a tractor. I bought tons of these old tractors and equipment from the area I grew up in 100 miles away hauled them home repaired and sometimes restored them and made a lot of money back then. Most of the old tractors on the acreages around here are gone now and the newer compact tractors have taken over. I did do some repairs on a 8N last year that I had sold the guy in 85 and he still had the tractor but he also had a small JD compact with a loader when I pickup the 8N to make the repairs.
My ole '48 8n is now 72 years young is still going strong. I wonder how many of dem compacts will live long enough ta say dat. :)
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My ole '48 8n is now 72 years young is still going strong. I wonder how many of dem compacts will live long enough ta sat dat. :)
Most of these compacts will be long gone before there 72 birthday. These newer tractors aren't made like the ones from the good old days.
I had a part on the side of the body I had taken off with a broken area...can't remember which one, and a bolt had frozen so I ordered a new part. When I got it and bolted it on, the new part snapped in half! So I continued messing with the old part (with much more pressure than I used on the replacement that broke) and eventually got it to free up. It was much better iron than the new one...built Ford tough!
Got the front side greenhouse roof panels on today! Some of my felt had a tough fight with the wind yesterday.
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Looking good
A bit more progress on one of the two ends. Now off to the store to buy a couple hundred tubes of caulking! ;D
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nice!!!
Now that's a greenhouse!!!!
Looks very nice. 200 tubes of caulk? Must have left some huge gaps in that siding.
Ha...actually took five. I caulk all the joints and hit them with a wet rag to smooth them out. It makes a nice finished look. I hope to get it done in the next couple days in between the rain.
Well Sir, it is a very professional build. 8) I have even eaten Bar-B-Que with the builder. food6
It ALWAYS comes back to FOOD, doesn't it Magic! Yep. Love me some Andrews bbq from Marion! Best around. It was fun to meet you and your wife that day, especially since I never got a chance to travel over there with piney. I saw a post that you are back at it recently? Hope y'all are doing well. Thanks for the compliments and keeping up on my project. God bless.
Got the end painted this morning. I'll start the other end tomorrow....one step at a time...
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fantastic!!!
The last side..... yeah!
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Wow! Beautiful greenhouse, clearly a labor of love!
Great greenhouse, but I would find some shades and move in. could just mow once a week, instead of vacuuming. :D
That is a really nice looking building, you did a great job, thanks for sharing it with us.
Thanks. I'm sort of using this thread as a journal for myself too so I can remember what I did. I finally finished the outside wood...it's a great day. Tomorrow I'll start caulking again.
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The outside is basically finished!
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That is the nicest greenhouse I have seen. I hope you will continue sharing this project with the FF as you start growing plants inside.
Now that the exterior is done, I've begun work on finishing the interior. First, the electrical wiring was roughed in.
Today, I started work on some ceiling boards. In an earlier post, I showed the cypress being milled and then dried in my kiln. I made enough boards (hopefully) to use for the ceiling areas along the back half of the greenhouse. I cut them 12" wide x 1/2" thick... so the finished product is a bit smaller due to blade width and drying.
I began prepping them for installation by first ripping each board on my table saw to a more consistent width of 11 1/4". This will make them fit together snugly on the ceiling. Next, I ran the best side through my old planer to get one smooth and consistent surface to paint:
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Next, I brushed on one coat of polyshades stain/varnish. I really like this product since it saves a ton of time and effort applying a quick and durable finish.
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Tomorrow I hope to begin installing them into the rear storage area ceiling. I'll be installing them alone, and weight was a BIG factor in the thickness of the boards.....1/2" (3/8" finished) I'll hold the board up with one hand and staple gun in the other...fun! I'm using a cheap harbor freight staple gun with 1 3/8" staples. It does a great job even though it is cheap! I'll post more photos later.
The rear storage ceiling begins.....
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Ceiling is DONE! Hurrah!
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Worked on the walls this weekend. I ran out of siding though, so started sawing my last two cypress logs...got about 50 pieces plus a lot of miscellaneous 1" stock. I'll be using almost every little piece of the last logs. Here's a photo of the rear wall ready to caulk and paint:
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That is amazing, I'm assuming cypress will stand up well to the high moisture content? We don't have much cypress in our swamps around here so I'm not familiar with how it does as siding.
I come back to look every time there is a post on this thread, mainly because it is such a great looking building.
Thanks! Glad you are interested. It's been a long haul, but I hope to finish by the end of next month. The storage area is done except for paint, which I'll start Monday.
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Very nice, like the clear finish on the ceiling boards, was hoping for the same on the walls.
I know man. A clear finish would look great, and even be much easier to do. But I used white so that I could see stuff in the storage room more easily. I did the same on my barn storage area I built a few years ago.
Happy, happy, happy! Storage room is DONE. I had to take those heavy doors off one by one and cut them for a good fit before installing the hardware. Makes me remember why I needed help to tote them out there from my shop. Also installed the electrical plugs, switch, and lights. Tomorrow I plan on building a ramp so I can ride my mower in there, and build a rack for implements such as shovels and rakes. Later...
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Thumbs up for you Sir!! thumbs-up
I like it. Would like to build one like it, but if I did, the taxes would go up so much I would have to put it up for sale.
Ha! Wish you COULD build one too! It's definitely been a long haul, labor of love. I set mini goals to accomplish each time I go out. I persevere until my old body gives out. It was unbelievably humid and hot, even though I started at 6:30 am and worked until 11:00. Then I went inside and worked on my day job...drawing house plans.
Anyway, I got two things done today with leftover boards. First I made a ramp so I can ride my mower into the area, as well as roll different push mowers, etc. inside. Next I made a vertical storage bin for shovels, rakes, etc. I made it 18" above the floor so I can also put stuff below it. It was made literally from cutoff cypress waste boards! I use almost every piece that I cut and dry on my mill. I always save small bark edge cuts that many folks trash, making sure to square at least one edge for table saw accuracy later. For instance, all the little 1 1/2" slats were from scraps left over from squaring up cypress fascia and corner boards done a few weeks back.
Here's photos of today's work:
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Like the rack!!!!!
Tools go in upside down so you can see what you have and they don't get all tangled up.
Planman, good looking shelf/rack!
You are a whiz, Planman!
I had to call a plumber for some home plumbing issues, and he is also going to dig a trench and connect the greenhouse to the house waterline. I plan on having a sink in the greenhouse, and I found a deep one for $35 on Craigslist which I bought. Since he is coming sooner than expected, I've had to switch gears and quickly build a cabinet for it and get it set in place.
I decided to use eastern red cedar for it since I have a lot in my lumber shed. I guess I'll use it for all the tables in there since it will last a lifetime for me. Here is a progress photo. It's 11' long and 2' deep and 3' tall:
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BTW, the bark on the top will all be hidden under the finished top, which will hold the sink and a slatted area which will allow trash to fall down to a trash bin on the lower shelf....Will come in handy which potting things or cleaning vegetables!
Here is a photo of it with a couple coats of exterior varnish. (The lower shelf boards are removed until I put it in place...it's heavy)
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You are progressing very nicely. 8)
Been working on the inside area where the sink cabinet goes so I can install it...siding and ceiling boards. I'll start painting it next, and then work on the dirt floor.
I'll level it up and apply landscape fabric. Then I'll place concrete precast stepping stones in walking areas and pea gravel in other areas where benches will be. This also allows me to be able to plant trees in high ceiling areas anywhere they will work in the future.
Here are a couple of pictures that are over the cabinet area.
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I am waiting for you to "fess" up and admit that this was actually your new home and you have moved in. :D
I think it might be, since I spend so much time out here workin on it!
A bit more progress...
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I started work on the floor area around where the sink cedar cabinet is going since my plumber is coming Friday. I leveled up the dirt first and then laid landscape fabric down. I placed concrete blocks where the cabinet will be on the left, along with pathway blocks down the middle. Then I put pea gravel in the rest of the spaces. I left it off where the sink plumbing will come up by the window. I'll fix that after the plumber is done:
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Got the sink cabinet set in place. No lower shelf yet... comes after the plumber finishes the sink.
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makes a guy want to repot some plants. excellent work!
Sooo... Since all the lap siding I cut out of cypress is about gone, I need to have a bit more to finish the inside. I decided to use pine for it, since that is what I have available... thanks to Pineywoods! I'll use the last few pieces of cypress near the bottom of the walls, and the pine in the upper...less chance for rot, especially since it is inside.
So this morning I got 44 pieces of 8' beveled lap and about 15 pieces of small width 1" thick from ONE 8' log about 18" diameter. I cut out an 8" wide cant down the middle, and then whittled the two side ovals on each end to get another short 8" cant from the center of both... produced more siding than ever before for me from one log!
The only reason I could do that is the short log length (8') since I have to manhandle the ovals off and on the bed with my back. I took a photo cutting some siding and also of the beginning of stacking it into the kiln. The kiln is running now, and I'll add the same amount tomorrow hopefully with the next log. I can only make it until 11:00 with the heat down here.
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Yesterday I finished the second log, cutting siding for the greenhouse... thought it would be quick. Nope! First, the log flipped halfway off the other side of the bed while turning. Took me half an hour of wedging to get it back on by myself. Next, as I was finally cutting well, I heard a slight zing as I was going along. I KNEW the log stops were down. Yep... a nail! Got it out, and continued since the blade was still cutting ok. Then I heard it again. Yep! Ok... kept going... another one! Oh well, blade kept cutting, but a bit slower. Finally finished after holding my breath. I really needed that siding from that log! Another fun and hot day at the mill alone. Here's a picture of the first one:
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I've been working hard (alone) on the greenhouse over the last month. I'm almost finished. All that's left is leveling and putting gravel and stepping stones on the floor. I also have to clean the windows and door paint off the glass...I dread that job. Tape was not practical with all the lites. I'm not going to build the rest of the interior benches this winter, but will next spring.
I have to pull off and go do some work on my barn. I had a leak, which resulted in mold forming on the ceiling in a few places. I have a new metal roof now, and it needs fixing pronto. Here's some pictures on my work on the floor area I've started.
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Quote from: Planman1954 on November 09, 2020, 06:54:09 PMI have to pull off and go do some work on my barn.
Sometime you just gots to scratch where you itch!! ;D Your greenhouse looks very nice and professionally done. thumbs-up