I hope this works this time! I never have learned how to post these pics. Anyway, here is what one of my customers decided to do for his kids the other day while I was milling some lumber for him. That is a 15 year old driving his truck to boot and the photo doesn't show the speed they were traveling.
I had removed the cant from the mill because it was rotten and falling apart. :o :o :o :o
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8) ;D ;D
BTW, that's me below. I'm learning more about these puters (and mills) everyday!
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Good job with the photos, Joey. 8)
Now, we all know what a MORON looks like from behind! >:( Is he trying to see how many safety principles he can break at one time, or what?
Feel free to show him the pic, and my comment, and to give him my address if he wants to look me up.
JL I hope you got your money for your efforts before he had to pay the emergency room and doctor bills. Those characters must play Russian Roulette after sundown ::)
No matter where that chain might break it could hurt someone.I have a rule with my mill no one under 18 allowed around it and also states this in the liability release contract the customer must sign before I start.I even take the blade off if my mill stays overnight and the customer has kids.We have to think for the customer because some of them don't know the first thing about safety.I'm sorry to go on like this but since my wife works for a childrens hospital some of the stories about kids and machines will make you shudder!!!!
By the way nice mill Joey.
As an adult, which I think I am now, that looks mighty stupid.
But as the teenager I used to be, I gotta tell you about how my buddies and I used to take turns riding on our sled.
We would tow the upsidedown hood from a Plymouth station wagon on the end of a 100 foot rope on our snow covered back roads. It was not uncommon for 4 or 5 of us to get on the "sled". we were all 15, 16 and 17. We did it regular for 2 winters. Up till the day that the Boyce kid broke his collar bone and got a concusion. ;)
We used the spare :D :o ::) :-[ :-X
we used a 4 wheeler and a plywood sled :D
We didn't have the snow so we'd swim in the Sippi River and if'n we got tired and needed to rest a minute we'd catch hold of a tree floating by and rest fur a spell, wouldn't stick my toe in it today and would whip the tar out of my kids or grands if I saw them do it. The factor of fear or good sense don't seem to kick in till you're about out of those teen years. The ones that survive and reach adulthood seem to be pretty good about coping with life's little bumps in the road !! :P
We used those plastic sleds and pulled them behind a snowmobile on icy roads. Quite a ride for the sled passenger at 60mph. You sure would roll and tumble if you fell out ;D. That was a result of young and foolish and alcohol. Luckily no one got killed. When ever my friends, I and get together now we always marvel that no one got killed as a result of some of our antics. I knew a cutter that at the end of the day would hitch a ride on the last skid of logs going out of the woods. He wasn't too bright and neither was the skidder operator.
HMMMMPH! Snowmobiles and four-wheelers hadn't been invented yet when I was a kid. For that matter, neither had plastic. ::) ::) ???
We were just talking here about being young and foolish, Mom just sent this, Kathy lived 2 houses down and was my class growing up, Richard was Michelle's year, you know "the perfect couple". How sad :'(
Wanted you to know about some terribly sad news; On Friday night Kathy and Richard's two sons were out
riding, with Wesley the 16 year old at the wheel. There were two brothers,
14 and 16 with them. There is apparently a street in Winston-Salem where the
kids like to go fast enough to get the car airborne as it crests the hill.
This time when they came down it was against a utility pole and the car was
cut in half. The younger boy, 15 years old and the other two brothers
were all three killed. The driver, Wesley, was injured but is home
now. It is a terriby dark time for the family, as you can well imagine.
That's dark and makes me so sad. It is a little like the accident I was talking about where two youngsters were killed. That is such a waste of life when it ends in an auto or farm or woods accident.
You are sure right there Tom. I lost one of my students a few weeks ago in a freek logging accident. :'( A large limb came flying a out of a 140 tall Douglas Fir and got him. He was just 23 years old and had two small children. :'( I had, had his father in school also, 33 years ago. :P He runs a couple of sides for a large logging company in town. What a waste when the unknown strikes. >:(
Several years ago a young lady in her teens was killed when she was hit by a snowmobile :(. She was on an inner tube being pulled across a field by another snowmobile. The guy that hit her was one of her classmates. He lived just up the road from them and was coming down to play. As he came across the field he didn't see her in the cloud of snow the tube was throwing up. There were many sad days in our community after that :'(.
I'm sorry to hear of the losses, it's even worse when it's a child. Just goes to show how fragile life can be. I thank the man upstairs for not only having healthy children but no real bad accidents to speak of. That would tear me apart inside.
On a brighter note.
Now as I look back at all of the dumb stuff we did as kids it's really remarkable that I made it into adulthood. In summer we would use the motercycle to pull the skateboard with the ski rope trick. On one wipeout I peeled the right side of my face open + elbows and knees. It wasn't pretty. A few weeks later I was back doing the same thing, young and dumb but having fun.
In winter we used the snowmachines and sleds or innertubes. Worst that ever happened to me was getting the wind knocked out of me by a snowbank.
Another dumb thing we used to do in winter was what we called skitching. This is how it worked. While it was snowing or just after a snow while the road was still ice slick or snow covered. We would grab hold of a bumper of a car or truck at the stop sign and see who could hold on the longest without wiping out. Some good wipeouts doing that as well. One night a few of us hooked onto the bumper of this small car and all it did was spin. To many of us hanging onto the car bumper at one time and we yelled at each other to let go but none would. So the car owner hopped out of the car just a cussing us. Off we ran. Oh to be young and dumb again.
Or the blind snowmobile races. The rider on the machine would cover the eyes of the driver with his hands. The the rider would give instructions to the driver as to which way to turn and how fast to push the throttle. We would time each other on how long it took to go over the same trail. The neighbor bent in the front of his machine on a tree. Man was he in trouble for that one.
I could go on for pages, yes I'm lucky to be alive.
Gordon
Yep, I plead guilty to skitching, jumping off roofs into swimming pools, riding on car hoods, racing with the speedo buried, and all the things that we did when we were "invincible". And I do want my kids to have a "Tom Sawyer" - like childhood.
But this guy is allowing his kids (quite young by the look of the photo) to do this without a clue. The cant rolls, you got a broken leg. The chain snaps, both the kid on the cant and the one straddling the tailgate are in danger of being killed by the backlash. Looks like a nice scenic road out, why not have the kids SIT in the back and take them for a 10 mph tour??
Once they are by themselves, pray that their adventures don't injure them, but don't TEACH them how to be unsafe!!! They'll figure out too many ways by themselves!! We did!
Yea you gotta think an adult on hand allowing this to go on has to have a few rocks loose and borders on the criminal. We read and watch on TV about the ones that go wrong and this one seems to be one that but for the graces of the unforseen didn't. I believe that after a mild attempt to stop this insanity I would have folded up tent and removed myself from the premises or would have at least asked that they resume after I'd left.