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Bruno of NH

That long leaf is sure nice looking lumber
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Magicman

If you ain't sawed Longleaf, you ain't sawed pitch.
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Bruno of NH

Bring me up some with red cedar
I would like to make some things with it.
Do they use it for timber frames?
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Bruno of NH

I will trade top hole maple for long leaf and red cedar
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

caveman

John had thrown the two boards that had the massive waves in the slab pile.  I dug them out and we ended up using them in the door of the hot box we are building (today's project).  We need to be able ensure that we are able to sterilize our wood dried in the solar kiln.  

Next week I intend to fabricate some hinges for the hot box doors and eventually make some for the kiln.  The kiln panel is heavy and the skid steer attachment that we bolted to it works well but the ground is not flat enough to enable it to be easily removed and installed so it really needs swinging doors.  I think that if it is convenient to open and close we will use it more.  The kiln itself does a good job of drying wood, it is just a PITA to load and unload.

It is almost too dry to burn here now - we have not had any rain in about 10 days.  We have enough slabs and scraps to make a Jakelike fire (Customsawyer).  
Caveman

WDH

If it is a Jakelike fire, you will be able to see it from Miami. 
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terrifictimbersllc

Do you mean this fire?

 
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

LeeB

I have not yet tried the T7's. I won a box of them at the last pig roast and have since lost the coupon for them.  >:(
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

Magicman

Lee, call Indy and talk to Sparks, (Rick). 
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

LeeB

I have one more place I haven't looked for it yet and then I may well do that Lynn.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

Dennis, that is a bitty one. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

LeeB

Quote from: LeeB on May 27, 2019, 06:47:06 AM
I have not yet tried the T7's. I won a box of them at the last pig roast and have since lost the coupon for them.  >:(
Found the coupon today and got it in the mail.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

TimW

When I ordered my mill, I ordered a box of Turbo 7s.  But after using over 7 blades in that box, I found out (while ordering some parts from WM) that just plain old 7s came with my mill.  So I had a box of Turbo 7s shipped to me ASAP.  I tried my first T7 blade yesterday and it is a difference of night and day.  Smoother cuts, and way less sawdust left on the blade.  I also could cut faster.  I love'em.  Who wants my plain 7s?
hugs, Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

petefrom bearswamp

Love the turbos dont want the 7s
But thanks anyway
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Crossroads

I'm out of T7's right now, so on my job this weekend I took a box of 4's. I was really surprised at how much slower they were and it didn't seem like they stayed sharp as long. I really need to get my T7's sharpened and get another box of them. 
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TimW

Quote from: petefrom bearswamp on July 16, 2019, 06:38:11 PM
Love the turbos dont want the 7s
But thanks anyway
Guess I will use that on that 24 inch square oak cant I have that is full of nails!
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

YellowHammer

I've been real happy with the .055 T7's for my LT70 Wide.  It seems the normal 7's have much less room in their gullets and spill a lot more sawdust, which causes problems.  T7's cut noticeably faster and straighter.

I also agree that they seem to stay sharper, longer, maybe because of the reduced sawdust spillage.

On my LT40, I didn't see much difference between the two, on the LT70, it is very noticable.  
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Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

LeeB

How much difference in performance do you think the 39° back angle makes? Is it really a factor or is the deeper gullet the main improvement?
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

YellowHammer

I'm not sure about the observed effects of back angle, but the gullets in the standard 7's are quite shallow, and I liked that with my LT40 because it allows more metal in the band and improves stiffness. Spillage is acceptable in 18 to 24 inch logs, but in the wider cuts that I can do with the LT70 wide, the sawdust packs badly, and the only way to alleviate that is to feed very slowly, which causes problems of its own.  The Turbos have a much deeper gullet and the sawdust extraction is significantly better, especially in the wide, up to 34 inch cuts.  

YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

LeeB

Just curious. I have ordered a box of T7's but do not have a cam for my cooks to match. Just looking at it I think I can achieve the same profile by using a 1/8 inch rock rather than a 3/8" and I have old cams that I can 'modify'. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

terrifictimbersllc

Quote from: LeeB on July 17, 2019, 11:40:18 PM
How much difference in performance do you think the 39° back angle makes? Is it really a factor or is the deeper gullet the main improvement?
39 degrees is how it gets the deep gullet.
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

LeeB

Wow, talk about customer service. I bought a cam from member Cutting Edge two years ago and had forgotten that it was for 7/40 and not 7/34. Got an email from Richard just now reminding me it what cam I had. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

DWyatt

I have cut mostly with 4° WM blades, but the last time I had to make a WM order I got a couple Turbo 7s, I run a 99 LT40 with the 25 hp Kohler. What I have noticed is that these T7s are fast and like everyone says, if I do not cut as fast as they want to go, I get the ripples (not waves) in the boards. This is great because I am okay with pushing them. 

However, the last Red Maple I sawed, I took a couple ~22" LE slabs. I had a heck of a time keeping the head moving fast enough without losing band speed. On the few slabs I cut the surface has those ripples, telling me that I am not cutting fast enough, but I couldn't speed up because I would notice that I was losing band speed. Went back to cutting 12"-18" boards with the same blade and it was business as normal (fast cutting and perfectly smooth surface finish). Just my observations with a tired 25 hp Kohler. I will definitely continue to use the T7s, knowing that if a customer or myself wants a bunch of wide boards, I will use the 4° bands that I have. As a side note, I did check my drive belt tension and that is not the reason I was losing band speed in the wide cuts.

barbender

It sounds like you hit the wall of not enough horsepower to provide the feed speed those blades require? I've got to get some of those T7s to try, it sounds like they would utilize the HP of my diesel engine👍
Too many irons in the fire

Outlaw

I experience the same with my 25 hp Kohler with the T7's as DWyett. Also a lot of chatter on the mill in a wide cut. Need more hp.
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