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What, pray tell, is this little rascal? More pics... (Solved as Winged Elm)

Started by tcsmpsi, June 23, 2007, 09:05:18 AM

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tcsmpsi

As you see, in the upper left quadrant of your first photo, WDH, my previous assessment of our good fortune not to be inundated with the worm, as is becoming prolific in the area, may have been a bit premature.   I thought I may should have kept my mouth shut.    :D

WDH, recognition of my being remiss in my introductions when ol' Red came in.  Hadn't seen him in some years, and was a bit preoccupied in determining the scope of the weight he seemed to be bearing.

I thought those strange buggy tracks in the drive might be yours.   :)

So, DL, with new field evidence available, do you still hold to your previous, well articulated assessment of a transitional winged elm?

Thusfar, it would seem that we have an American Red Maple Winged Water Elm.
With perhaps a Cannabaceae ancestral influence.  
                               
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:D   Well, WDH, seems we rounded this corner 'bout the same time. 


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TexasTimbers

Quote from: WDH on June 26, 2007, 11:05:54 PM
. . . . . Then paid a short visit to the philosophical Tcsmpsi where we discussed weighty matters. . . . .

I just can't imagine that. ;D
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tcsmpsi

Quote from: kevjay on June 27, 2007, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: WDH on June 26, 2007, 11:05:54 PM
. . . . . Then paid a short visit to the philosophical Tcsmpsi where we discussed weighty matters. . . . .

I just can't imagine that. ;D

Well now, kev, I just can't imagine why you can't imagine that.   :D
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WDH

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WDH

I think that I might be becoming naturalized :D.
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tcsmpsi

Quote from: WDH on July 01, 2007, 03:49:43 PM
I think that I might be becoming naturalized :D.

I would thoughtfully confirm that analysis.   ;)

Ahhhh...hear it?   That rolling thunder coming in announcing yet another darkened day of earth washing.

Ahhh yes...getting louder and darker, now.  Soon....we'll be blessed with a little rain.  ;D

What do you think?  Has this little rascal been 'solved'?
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WDH

Yes, it has been solved in my opinion.  I have done some additional research (the field type), and I have found additional winged elm with very smooth leaves in that part of the country.  Usually the upper sides are scabrous, but not always.  I am confident it is Ulmus alata.
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Dodgy Loner

I can see why there was some confusion when you went to see the tree - the leaves you posted look too fat to be winged elm, but to short to be American elm.  I'm going to stick with my original assesment of winged elm, though.  Just an odd little specimen from the western end of its range :).  I'd say that this little rascal has been solved.
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tcsmpsi

Ahhhh....the ulmas alata alma mater.   ;)

Kind of a shame though...that American Wingless Winged Texas Elm had kind of a ring to it.    :D

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WDH

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