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Trees I saw in FL

Started by sprucebunny, February 15, 2006, 07:22:38 PM

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sprucebunny

Some of the trees I saw were completely new to me and there is a good chance half of those are not natives.

Maybe someone knows something about these species and could enlighten us about thier origin and uses. ???

At a botanical garden in central Fl there was a "sugarberry" tree. The placard implied that it was native. It had good girth... about 18" and a straight trunk. It's deciduous.


This is an evergreen who's 'needles' are 1/4 inch thick and layered. It had a 16 inch trunk.


This is another evergreen from a botanical garden ( they were a little lax on the labeling  ::) ) The needles are kind of like yew but about 2.5 inches long.
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Ianab

SB

The middle one looks like Norfolk Island Pine ( Araucaria heterophylla ), native to Norfolk Island strangely enough. I see online it's commonly grown in Florida.
At 16" dbh it's just a baby, they grow 5 or 6 foot dbh and usually dead straight, even in windy salt exposed locations.

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SwampDonkey

In Torreya state Park in Fl they have a couple of trees in the yew family protected. But they look different that your last picture. I haven't a clue. ;)

In your first pic, don't I see some saw palmento? ;D

Nice pictures, maybe Tom can help ya out. ;)
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Tom

Even though it is natural to Florida, I'm not  familiar with Sugarberry.   Those seem to be cabbage palm fronds (Sabal) in the first picture rather than saw palmetto.  The second, I'll second as being Norfolk Island Pine. Not to be confused with Norfolk  Virginia.  :D

The third picture could be a tree, "Olive", or a flowering plant, Oleander, commonly planted as an ornamental even though it is deadly poison.  Oleander makes a large bush or shrub reaching about 10'.

SwampDonkey

See, not only did I not know what I was looking at, but I didn't know how to spell what I wasn't looking at. :D :D
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sprucebunny

Dumb me  ::) I have two Norfolk pine in my livingroom. Thier needles are a little fluffier. They grow pretty fast, alright ;D

The third picture , the tree has thick needles like a yew bush but proportionately bigger. Is Oleander evergreen, Tom ???

Here is a picture of little Torryeas ;D


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Tom

Yes, it is an evergreen.
There are some good sites on Oleander that describe its use as an ornamental and its notoriety for being toxic.   :)

RMay

Sprucebunny the sugarberry has a local name southern hackberry ( Celtis laevigata Willd ) ;D
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chet

We had a really nice Norfolk Pine in our living room too. The operative word is had, somebody forgot ta water it.  :'(
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DanG

Tom, I ain't gonna outright disagree with ya on that Oleander, but I am gonna reserve agreement.  I'ma thinkin' that Oleander has a broader leaf than that.  It looks like some kind of Yew to me.
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DanG

http://www.vet.purdue.edu/depts/addl/toxic/plant52.htm

After a bit of Googling, I'm even less sure. ???  The leaves in the Purdue pic do seem a little broader, but the other attributes are there.  Let's send somebody down there to eat some of it, and if they don't come back, Tom is right. ;D ::)
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sprucebunny

I've been looking at oleander and olive and the pic I have of this. ??? ???

It is a tree with a 7" dbh trunk planted at the entrance to the porch in a Fl state botanical garden ( Rainbow Springs ) It's placement in the landscape doesn't seem a good choice for something poisonous  :o Also the leaves/needles are narrow and have a less prominent center vein than oleander and wrong color for olive.



Now, I'm wishing that I took higher resolution pictures ::)
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sprucebunny

RMay, Is hackberry sawed up very often or used for anything in particular ? It was big and straight with a tight , smooth bark.
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SwampDonkey

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woodbowl

Sugarberry is the local name around here. I've not heard of anyone using it for anything. It seems a shame too because it grows to be a large tree with at least two logs. I cut a short piece on the mill a while back and it seems a bit tough and disobedient. I made a few bowls also. The wood is pretty and white with tight interlocking grain. It is very dense and heavy. It doesn't split well at all, and if it doesn't dry fairly soon, it developes grey discoloration all the way to the heart.
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SwampDonkey

Sounds similar to elm. They are grouped with elms, if they are a hackberry. Celtis laevigata The dendro book calls them sugarberry or sugar hackberry.
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Jeff

How did the bowls turn out?
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Pullinchips

Swamp, is right on the scientific name and the commons. It resembles a winged elm in form.  It is called hackberry or sugarberry.  Bark can be very bumpy near the base and leaves sometimes have bumps in them. Its a weed or trash tree only use i know or can think of is pulp.  The oleander is that the bush that has white and pink flowers that they plant as ornamentals in all south eastern coastal cities.  I from charleston and there were bushes that grew like that all over the town that had pink or white flowers.  I hated that bush dont know why though.  The middle, i will not argue with others since i am not from FL but i thought of cryptomeria, but i went to Fl last year and did notice some wierd conifers there.
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Tom

DanG, you might be right on the Oleander thing.  I was just guessing as usual.  To say it looks like me is a stretch though.  :D :D

woodbowl

The sugarberry bowls turned out very nice and didn't split one bit. They have a warp to them though. It moves around while it's being worked. The grey discoloration is present and follows the grain without crossing over.
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DanG

Tom, go back and read it again.  I said they were too skinny.  That ain't like yew at all. ;D :D :D :D
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Tom

You're right, DanG.   They are too skinny.  They look more like Yew.  ;D

Jeff

Olin did you get any photos of those bowls?
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Radar67

Hey OlEn, I would like to see pictures of your bowls too. I've only seen the one on you avitar.

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woodbowl

I've still got the bowls and looked at them for cracks just before I posted. I'm afraid to take any pics with my camera right now (because of overwriting) untill I recover our lost pics.


Stew, there are a few in my gallery
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