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Title: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on November 22, 2007, 08:58:38 PM
Well i finely got time to update the photos on the barn i'm building. as some of you know the size is 42'by 36' so here we go.
this is the center loft and the start of one outside wall
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_08122007.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/2.jpg)

this is with the siding on the wall.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_08162007.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_08162007%281%29.jpg)

this is the rafters and cutting in the top windows. my shop is now going in the loft.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_11212007.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_11212007%282%29.jpg)

Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: brdmkr on November 22, 2007, 09:13:14 PM
Looking good.  What are you using for siding?  How much reveal on the laps?
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: Handy Andy on November 22, 2007, 09:55:57 PM
  The plan looks cool.  Set your mill on the ground floor, and stack your lumber to dry there, then take it upstairs and build things.  Fun. 
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: Gary_C on November 22, 2007, 10:02:22 PM
I do not know if I am missing something, but I wonder if you have adequate cross bracing on those walls. I see you have temporary cross bracing, but not seeing any permanent bracing. Just the board siding is not enough. If you had plywood sheets under the siding, that would work, but not just the narrow board siding.
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: Left Coast Chris on November 22, 2007, 10:12:54 PM
Sgt,

What are you using for floor joists and what are they bearing on between posts?  Just curious........ the floor looks mighty light to support any equipment let alone a 40# per square foot live load.     For a shop a 100# live load would be a better design parameter.    Hope the beams between posts are adequate also.   Don't want to risk a colapse from the second floor level or any level. ::) :)
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on November 22, 2007, 11:22:33 PM
Quote from: brdmkr on November 22, 2007, 09:13:14 PM
Looking good.  What are you using for siding?  How much reveal on the laps?

this is pine we cut on the mill. 7"x1" which ends up around 3/4" when dried. over lap is around 1 inch.
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on November 22, 2007, 11:23:40 PM
Quote from: Gary_C on November 22, 2007, 10:02:22 PM
I do not know if I am missing something, but I wonder if you have adequate cross bracing on those walls. I see you have temporary cross bracing, but not seeing any permanent bracing. Just the board siding is not enough. If you had plywood sheets under the siding, that would work, but not just the narrow board siding.
most of that bracing will come when i close in the tack and feed rooms.
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on November 22, 2007, 11:27:25 PM
Quote from: Left Coast Chris on November 22, 2007, 10:12:54 PM
Sgt,

What are you using for floor joists and what are they bearing on between posts?  Just curious........ the floor looks mighty light to support any equipment let alone a 40# per square foot live load.     For a shop a 100# live load would be a better design parameter.    Hope the beams between posts are adequate also.   Don't want to risk a colapse from the second floor level or any level. ::) :)

the cross beams between the metal post are 2x8 spliced so i ended up with a 4x8. each was 12' long before joining. joist are 2x8 on 16" centers. floor decking is 5/4 in withs ranging from 8" to 14"
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on December 30, 2007, 04:00:25 PM
latest photos of the barn.

Please modifiy this post using the forum gallery.

and the new used window for the tack room

Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: thecfarm on December 30, 2007, 04:25:37 PM
Looks good.Keep the pictures coming.Like that NH tractor you have.
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on December 30, 2007, 05:46:06 PM
sorry about the pics i'm trying to upload them now to the gallery.


that tractor is a farmtrac 535. it's just like the old ford 3000
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on December 30, 2007, 06:01:11 PM
ok new pics the right way this time.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_12262007.jpg)

and the west side with the windows cut in.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14472/Barn_%281%29_12262007.jpg)

Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: woodmills1 on December 31, 2007, 08:06:16 AM
I also am wondering about your open overhang to the left in your pictures.  Looks like 2x6 floor joists with posts only on the outside.  Did you get some engineering on the structure?  Do you plan on storing lumber up there? Seems light to me.
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: DanG on December 31, 2007, 12:02:32 PM
Well, I wouldn't put a 5,000# cast iron planer up there, but it should be adequate for most home shop tools.  I've seen lots of floors with 2x6 SYP joists and never saw one collapse.  Good fasteners at the ends are critical though, and some knee braces would shorten the span somewhat.
Title: Re: Update on the barn
Post by: sgtmaconga on December 31, 2007, 07:16:48 PM
lol.


the post are on both sides spaced 14' apart. what your seeing is only 1/3rd of the barn. i had to build it like this because i needed a place to store hay. i don't think i'm going to have a problem with the shop floor. i'll start the eastern side of the barn as soon as i get thru landscaping it for level.