MS 880 order canceled!!!

offrink · March 02, 2021, 08:55:17 AM

I've had a Stihl MS 880 on order now for over a month. I check with the dealer every week to week and a half. I stop in and just shoot the sh.... stuff. When they checked yesterday I was told that all existing 880 orders will be shipped as MS 881's. I've read about how the 881 is more of a fuel miser and it being more efficient and better oil pump and better air filter but to me it seems that less fuel used, typically in a chainsaw, the less power you have. So my question is has anyone actually used both and are able to do an actual side by side comparison or tell me any real life differences?

Also am I getting hosed on the price? Not sure if I paid more and getting a cheaper saw. I can't find any prices in the USA.

Greenhighlander · March 02, 2021, 11:02:34 AM

This is the price of an 881 here in Canada to give you a rough idea. I can't answer any of your other questions though .

https://en.stihl.ca/STIHL-Products/Chain-Saws-and-Pole-Pruners/Gas-Chain-Saws-for-Forestry/2122436-130/MS-881.aspx

offrink · March 02, 2021, 01:43:26 PM

Thanks for the link. Looks like I'm getting hosed on the price. I will have to bring it up with the dealer. Need to get the saw first though.

Seems like no one can actually tell me what I want to know. Any comparison has been unfair one way or the other.

Old saw fixer · March 02, 2021, 03:31:07 PM

Sounds normal for Stihl. No one knows!

ehp · March 03, 2021, 05:26:37 PM

I know a guy with a 880 , I cannot tell you on how good a 881 really is cause I have not seen one here , some of the dealers here still have 880 on their shelves

sawguy21 · March 03, 2021, 09:51:12 PM

If you don't mind what are yoy paying in U.S. dollars? Based on the current exchange rate you should be at least 25% lower than the prices shown.

offrink · March 04, 2021, 07:57:30 PM

I don't remember exactly but it was a hair under $2k for a 36" bar and chain.

snobdds · March 05, 2021, 11:02:47 AM

That's in the ball park.

At least the 881 still has an adjustable carb on it.

offrink · March 05, 2021, 11:57:21 AM

I hope to have some aftermarket tuning. Would love to be able to keep the fuel efficiency but still have a little more (who doesn't want more power?). I know. Can't have it both ways.

offrink · April 22, 2021, 09:20:57 AM

Still waiting. This is getting pretty ridiculous. The saw is in production and being sold in Europe yet they won't send a single saw to North America. Shouldn't sell and take the money from someone for a saw they can't produce in a reasonable time. 3+ months is beyond reasonable.

ehp · April 22, 2021, 02:49:49 PM

I know a dealer here with 1 sitting on the floor , they are out there

offrink · April 22, 2021, 07:55:48 PM

An 880 or an 881? I'm am suppose to be the first in North America to get a production 881. That is according to the US Stihl distributor and my dealer. Where is your dealer at?

Real1shepherd · April 22, 2021, 08:06:23 PM

Quote from: offrink on March 02, 2021, 08:55:17 AM
I’ve had a Stihl MS 880 on order now for over a month. I check with the dealer every week to week and a half. I stop in and just shoot the sh.... stuff. When they checked yesterday I was told that all existing 880 orders will be shipped as MS 881’s. I’ve read about how the 881 is more of a fuel miser and it being more efficient and better oil pump and better air filter but to me it seems that less fuel used, typically in a chainsaw, the less power you have. So my question is has anyone actually used both and are able to do an actual side by side comparison or tell me any real life differences?

Also am I getting hosed on the price? Not sure if I paid more and getting a cheaper saw. I can’t find any prices in the USA.

This was discussed here in another thread.....the pros and cons of both by people that used/owned both. I don't remember the name of the thread, sorry. Not a Squeal fanboy....don't retain that info.

Kevin

ehp · April 22, 2021, 08:56:37 PM

881, dealers here have them but nothing else

ehp · April 22, 2021, 08:57:07 PM

and the price is not bad on them either

ehp · April 22, 2021, 09:00:15 PM

another thing you will find is never believe your number 1 on getting anything , I'm number 1 on the list to get a MS 400, well they are back ordered but I already have a 400 from another dealer so make sense with that

sawguy21 · April 22, 2021, 11:35:47 PM

I was in the local Stihl shop today, they are short on the larger saws as well. Chain loops are also in short supply, they are maaking them up as needed but it is time consuming when they are busy.

Spike60 · April 23, 2021, 07:14:45 AM

Did you already pay for this saw? Given the current situation being so uncertain, it's sensless for any dealer to take money on something with no idea of when it will show up. I have customers that offer to put money on 395's and 3120's, but I won't take it. Doesn't make the saws get here any faster, and really only encourages more "check up calls". And some guys feel a small deposit locks them in and they can take a month or more to show uo and buy the saw. I get it, things change when something is on backorder for 2-3 months. I keep a list and call everyone when they come in, but there's no need for money to change hands til the saws get here.

ehp · April 23, 2021, 08:17:49 AM

im in Ontario so Canada , Spike I know a guy here that tried to sell me a 3120 with 42 inch bar with 2 ripping chains 2 days ago, Saw was started but never cut wood , Not sure what a 3120 cost down there but the price was pretty good but I donot need a 3120

offrink · April 23, 2021, 08:30:26 AM

Quote from: Spike60 on April 23, 2021, 07:14:45 AM
Did you already pay for this saw? Given the current situation being so uncertain, it's sensless for any dealer to take money on something with no idea of when it will show up. I have customers that offer to put money on 395's and 3120's, but I won't take it. Doesn't make the saws get here any faster, and really only encourages more "check up calls". And some guys feel a small deposit locks them in and they can take a month or more to show uo and buy the saw. I get it, things change when something is on backorder for 2-3 months. I keep a list and call everyone when they come in, but there's no need for money to change hands til the saws get here.

Yes. Saw is paid for. It was when there were suppose to be 880's. It was many weeks after I ordered and paid before they, when I checked in to see how the process was going, they informed me that it has been switched to an 881.

Tacotodd · April 23, 2021, 09:46:59 AM

So, @offrink why do you NEED it to be the 880 instead of 881? I don't know Stihl stuff, but I'd think that it's something to do with the emissions, but it's not going to be the first time I've been wrong either. It's not Midtronic, so what's the problem? I mean, really....?

offrink · April 23, 2021, 02:23:14 PM

No I don't need an 880 compared to an 881. I just need a powerhead. Either one. Stihl won't provide either. I wouldn't have put my neck/name on the line if I couldn't provide the service knowingly. The guy is waiting to build an addition on his house because this big log is in the way. This would have to be cut on site because we don't have anything to lift the 15-18 tons of log to get it onto a semi trailer and then get it off. Just doing a little venting.

ehp · April 23, 2021, 10:58:17 PM

how big is it , is it standing or laying on the ground , a saw like a 395 running 3/8's chain will cut a very big tree ,

Spike60 · April 24, 2021, 06:19:20 AM

Dealer should by now have offered to return whatever money you put down on the saw. He definitely wouldn't have been billed for anything that hasn't shipped.

Ianab · April 24, 2021, 06:37:42 AM

Quote from: Spike60 on April 24, 2021, 06:19:20 AM
Dealer should by now have offered to return whatever money you put down on the saw. He definitely wouldn't have been billed for anything that hasn't shipped.

Dealer should certainly refund the money if they can't supply in an acceptable time. But that leaves the OP with no saw, and at the end of any other back-order list.
Supply of all sorts of things are messed up at the moment. Not just chainsaws.