tree farmer c4-5

coxy · November 28, 2015, 07:51:39 AM

it has a 5cy duetz in it wanted to know if a 453 will bolt in its place with out to much trouble the duetz block is shot and the guy would like a Detroit ??? ??? ??? ???

xalexjx · November 28, 2015, 07:55:37 AM

you would need a 353 to fit the radiator

lopet · November 28, 2015, 06:16:32 PM

What's the story behind ? Is it yours and you want to sell it to somebody ?
As far as i know the C4's had a four cylinder deutz in it or a 353 detroit. The C5's a five cylinder deutz or a 453 detroit.
I could honestly never figure out, why somebody would prefer a screamer over a air cooler ? That's just me, please don't take this seriously !!! ;D ;D

millcreek40 · November 28, 2015, 06:50:30 PM

I would find another deutz or fix the one you have. C5s had a 353 or a 5cylinder deutz. I have a 353 in a 225d jack. Great motor just get sick of the noise. Would like to switch mine to a deutz.

BargeMonkey · November 28, 2015, 06:57:26 PM

Transplanting anything but a nice 4-BT/A would be a sin. :D

millcreek40 · November 28, 2015, 07:58:26 PM

I haul logs for a man with a c5 with a deutz. Very quite machine. He sneaks up on me with it. I can hear the tire chains before I hear the machine. My 353 can be heard for over a mile on a nice cold morning. I can't wait to try out my new to me 540b. Nice & quite. Swintons are coming Monday to install a new Deere recon motor

coxy · November 28, 2015, 10:00:41 PM

its not mine the deutz has a hole in the block half the size of a foot ball the guy wants to trade me a 110 prentice log loader for the 453 the truck is junk but the loader is tight I have 2 other 110s there old but will lift anything you grab and I don't haul logs for a living so it will be on one of my landings to load trailers just wanted to know how much work it was to put it in in place of the deutz thanks

HiTech · November 29, 2015, 07:28:11 AM

A 4-53 might have a little too much juice for C-5. I think the Deutz was around 97hp and the Detroit somewhere around 140 hp, maybe more with a turbo? Some of the C-5's had small axle/planetary set ups and might not hold up to the extra power. Just sayin.

David-L · November 29, 2015, 07:45:32 AM

Never saw a 5 cyl duetz in a e series or older Jack. I had one in a 225A and never measured but its a long engine. maybe with the rad gone but I think A's were longer in the nose to begin with. If I had a 90 hp Duetz that would not be a bad retro. I would low Idle and pull the hitch and be amazed at the tourqe. Whats the deal on the bell housing #s. A Sisu deisel would be nice also. Have one in my Ag tractor and it;s a great motor.

coxy · November 29, 2015, 08:46:23 AM

am I stupid I never thought of the duetz not having a radiator :D :D must be old age setting in

millcreek40 · November 30, 2015, 08:23:51 PM

I know where there is a 208 timberjack with a 4cyd deutz in it. There not that plenty fun but there out there

tj240 · December 02, 2015, 06:23:29 PM

duetze motors are air cooled. if your guy has a c5 and wants a detriot, i have a friend that might still have the front frame for one. i think there is alot of modifcation to go from a duetze to a detroit. pm me then i will ask about it. i think he has a nose for either one.

dgdrls · December 03, 2015, 09:34:21 PM

Quote from: millcreek40 on November 30, 2015, 08:23:51 PM
I know where there is a 208 timberjack with a 4cyd deutz in it. There not that plenty fun but there out there

I have to ask, is it still working??

Dan