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98 LT40 Super, power feed not working.

Started by LeeB, April 11, 2021, 07:06:17 PM

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LeeB

While jigging back after a cut the mill did not want to stop after switching back to neutral and now will not power feed at all. Breaker is not tripped. Solenoid's are engaging. Haven't checked the power feed control panel yet. Anyone else had this issue?
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

LeeB

Checked the power feed control module LED's. Getting power to the module. No overload or overcurrent lights. The in and out lights show good. Not reading any power to the feed motor.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WV Sawmiller

   One of the first things I would check would be the power feed belt. Check the tension and that it is not broken. While you are at it might as well do a quick check on the chain and watch the sprockets as they ride on it to be sure everything seems to be engaging properly. Kind of a chicken soup suggestion - can't hurt and might help. Good luck. Let us know what you find.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

Magicman

You have a power feed solenoid that is accessed behind the front and left side panels and it's a tight squeeze.  It's been several years since I replaced mine and tech support led me to it.
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LeeB

Quote from: Magicman on April 11, 2021, 08:15:10 PMYou have a power feed solenoid that is accessed behind the front and left side panels and it's a tight squeeze
Seems strange that both would fail at the same time. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

barbender

Hmm...it's odd it didn't want to kick out. I guess a quick check at the drive motor for power, and also at the solenoid would be in order. 
Too many irons in the fire

LeeB

No power at the drive motor. Will check the sols tomorrow.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

Magicman

Quote from: LeeB on April 11, 2021, 10:53:28 PMSeems strange that both would fail at the same time.
both what?  I was only suggesting that it could be the smaller power feed solenoid. ??

Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

LeeB

Problem solved. After doing what I could on my own, I called WM and went through some more tests without success except to find that it was not in the control system. I checked the brushes, which were like new. Good voltage to the motor. As I was taking off the fan cover to be able to check the brush connections I did however find one of the terminals was loose on the motor. Tightened it up and now good to go. Never got the fan cover off before I felt the negative terminal move under my hand.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

Magicman

??  In Reply #1 and Reply #6 you stated "no power at the motor".  ??
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

slider

mine did the almost same thing .it was the jam nut on the stud coming out of the drive motor. Not the top nut that holds the cable on but the one under neath the cable end .just gently snug them up. Custom sawyer taught me that trick. 
al glenn

LeeB

Quote from: Magicman on April 12, 2021, 02:20:57 PMIn Reply #1 and Reply #6 you stated "no power at the motor". 


In reply #6 I did state no power to the motor but I was checking it wrong.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

customsawyer

When I tighten those studs, I lock two nuts together on the stud and then tighten the nut holding the stud. The locked nuts give you something to hold onto so the stud doesn't turn. If the stud does turn bad things happen. Don't ask how I know.
Two LT70s, Nyle L200 kiln, 4 head Pinheiro planer, 30" double surface Cantek planer, Lucas dedicated slabber, Slabmizer, and enough rolling stock and chainsaws to keep it all running.
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LeeB

Quote from: customsawyer on April 13, 2021, 06:58:46 AM
When I tighten those studs, I lock two nuts together on the stud and then tighten the nut holding the stud. The locked nuts give you something to hold onto so the stud doesn't turn. If the stud does turn bad things happen. Don't ask how I know.
Good advice. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WV Sawmiller

   Be careful - I overtightened the studs on my debarker motor and evidently affected the location of the brushes inside. I found by wiggling/slightly rotating the stud contact would be made and powered the debarker. I had to replace the motor.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

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