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Title: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: GW on August 18, 2007, 08:54:44 AM
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I'm going with Red Mulberry. I read that RM is listed as an endangered species in Canada, and is also threatened in the United States. This tree is barely 4 inches dbh, but I think I've seen larger specimens on our place. Like with the Swamp Tupelo I don't see any fruit developing. This tree is under a fairly thick canopy so I guess that would limit the fruit. If this is a Mulberry I would like to release it and try to get some fruit for the birds (and me).  ;)
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: Mike_Barcaskey on August 18, 2007, 09:06:23 AM
I'd agree with you
around here there's no shortage of them, almost like weeds once they establish
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: tim1234 on August 18, 2007, 09:09:10 AM
Do ya get berries on that type.  Mulberries are soooo sweet.  If you can pick enough of them and keep from eatin them long enough you can make an awsome pie! 
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: GW on August 18, 2007, 09:44:24 AM
The info I found said this variety has sweet berries.

I grew up in Northern Illinois and my friend's family had a Mulberry on their property. I don't know what type of MB it was but I spent hours at a time in that tree with my buddy, eating berries until we were half purple. Mulberries are my favorite berry I think.
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: metalspinner on August 18, 2007, 05:49:06 PM
Is that a sassafrass leaf in the first pic?

By the looks of your fingertips it seems you were sampling some berries. :)
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: GW on August 18, 2007, 06:15:54 PM
No metalspinner, that's one of the leaves on this tree, but there is some sassafras here.

My fingers are stained from marking leave trees with blue paint. I diluted tinted latex primer with water and I'm spraying it with a pump sprayer. I was unclogging it by hand until I realized I could just whip the wand on a tree... :o
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: Riles on August 18, 2007, 06:19:01 PM
Yup, Red mulberry, Morus rubra. Leaves can be very similar to sassafras, the easiest way to tell is to crush the leaf and smell it.

Sounds like you have a male tree, no berries. I wouldn't consider mulberry threatened in the US, it's not hard finding them in the south at least.
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: GW on August 18, 2007, 06:28:01 PM
I'm going to have to get my Mulberry boy a girlfriend! :)

I read that Red Mulberry is on the endangered list in Canada and that it's threatened in some areas of the US.

Only a few of the lower leaves on this tree have any lobes at all.
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: WDH on August 18, 2007, 06:51:05 PM
All the mulberries are gone about the end of May, so no way to tell now if it is a boy or a girl.  I did a thread on mulberries earlier this late spring/early summer.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=25639.0
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 18, 2007, 07:00:32 PM
If the leaf margins were not toothed, the only other option would be 'sass'. ;D
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: tim1234 on August 18, 2007, 07:55:46 PM
How would you propogate Mulberry?  We never get sprouts so do you need a male female for the trees to propagate like some other trees.  We get plenty of berries so it can't be just the berry.

Tim
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 18, 2007, 07:59:21 PM
If your getting berries, then there must be male flowers to, need pollen. ;) I think mulberry can be one sex or both or neither and never flower. Fun eh? ;)
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: Tom on August 19, 2007, 10:01:00 PM
Yes, a mulberry can change sex in mid-stride.  It is also written that it takes several years (in the neighborhood of  8 ) before a mulberry will produce berries.   Propagation is usually done by rooting cuttings from the mature tree.  I think this was covered fairly extensively in a recent thread. :)
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: Furby on August 19, 2007, 10:13:11 PM
I get mulberries sprouting from the seeds/bird droppings.
Have them popping up all over the place.
Only thing worse is the boxelder and a maple. ::)
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: GW on August 19, 2007, 10:32:08 PM
I might cut down every tree that isn't a Mulberry. :)
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: tim1234 on August 19, 2007, 10:37:15 PM
Furby,

That's interesting.  We have 3 mulberry trees that are mature.  Too mature and have serious defects from storms and age.  We never get sprouts from seeds.  I'll do a search on the thread for propogating from cuttings (thansk Tom).

Tim
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: Furby on August 19, 2007, 10:49:09 PM
Well if the sprouts aren't from seeds, then I have no clue as to how they are sprouting, so I simply assume they are from seed. :)
That and the amount of colored droppings around here. ::)
Ever see what those deep colored droppings do to fresh pine window casing ??? >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: tim1234 on August 20, 2007, 07:22:23 AM
I know what they do to a lot of stuff.  How about kids running through a minefield of berries and then comming into the house :o

Tim
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: GW on August 20, 2007, 08:35:25 AM
I worked as a chef for many years and I always wished for a source of Mulberries. I guess they're just too fragile to handle/ship.
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: Furby on August 20, 2007, 12:54:26 PM
DanG Tim, ya got me there! :o
Title: Re: Trees from Cindy's woods #15
Post by: tim1234 on August 21, 2007, 07:41:31 AM
Shipping ???, they never make it from the tree to the house ;D  Either me or my oldest usually scarf them down before we hit the front door ;)

Tim