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Title: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: HemlockKing on July 11, 2021, 06:08:43 AM
I have had the idea floating around for awhile but never bothered. I have a big pine I liked having around but it's a mess with coleaders  everywhere. One snapped off close to the trunk, I cut it to the collar to clean it up since it had ripped fibre everywhere. It's about 6 inch wound, eventually it will probably form a rot hole. Someone have any reasons why my idea of water sealant isn't a good idea? The stuff dries clear too.
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: HemlockKing on July 11, 2021, 06:10:26 AM
I'm thinking the sealant will preserve the wood longer so it has more time to close the wound before it really rots in there
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: HemlockKing on July 11, 2021, 06:27:25 AM
I'm reading arborists use to use pruning sealant, reason they stopped using was because traps in moisture. I assume they were painting it on right after the cuts? I'm not planning on doing that, the wound has been for 8 months so I think the wood on the wound is fairly dry now
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: nybhh on July 11, 2021, 07:29:53 AM
I usually put Anchor Seal on larger pruning cuts or removed coleaders.  I'm not an arborist and have no evidence one way or another that it helps but feel like it probably helps slow down water and insect intrusion to give the tree a bit more time to close itself up.  
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: chep on July 11, 2021, 07:55:23 AM
Trees know best. You will not be helping by dressing a wound. There is no published science that promotes it. The only people touting it are the ones producing the sealants...
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: HemlockKing on July 11, 2021, 08:07:38 AM
Quote from: chep on July 11, 2021, 07:55:23 AM
Trees know best. You will not be helping by dressing a wound. There is no published science that promotes it. The only people touting it are the ones producing the sealants...
With that argument also could rise why even bother pruning then? :) They do know best, but we help them along to speed the process or in this case try to aide them. This isn't a tree pruning sealant I would be using, it's just general use stuff for wood, metal, everything pretty much. I'm not sure I'll go along and do it yet though I'll wait for more folk to weigh in
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: btulloh on July 11, 2021, 08:19:40 AM
If you're set on sealing it, shellac is a good choice. 
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: Don P on July 11, 2021, 08:39:48 AM
Usually when you "seal" it, the seal cracks and lets liquid water in but slows drying, so accelerates rot. The seal has to be pretty much perfect to be of benefit.
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: HemlockKing on July 11, 2021, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: Don P on July 11, 2021, 08:39:48 AM
Usually when you "seal" it, the seal cracks and lets liquid water in but slows drying, so accelerates rot. The seal has to be pretty much perfect to be of benefit.
So this would probably only be worth it if it's a tree like a single ornamental in your yard etc where it's not much inconvenience to check it re coat it every once in awhile 
Title: Re: Water sealant on big wounds?
Post by: HemlockKing on July 11, 2021, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: btulloh on July 11, 2021, 08:19:40 AM
If you're set on sealing it, shellac is a good choice.
If I do seal it will be with general purpose Thompson water sealant, stuff I use on bird houses and such.