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Hitch terms? Load cell?
« on: September 17, 2021, 05:32:30 AM »
Hi everybody. Well, not so often i delve out of forestry and logging, or sawmills. 

I thought the question would be better placed here. 
I have a 3 ton trailer, that i haul woodworking machinery with, metalworking machinery too. Wood, and else. 

Yesterday, i went to pick up some wood from another sawmill, for a friend. Two trailer loads. And it was raining when they loaded the second load.  I didn't pay attention. And it was loaded way on the back. I got scared with the trailer navigating badly at the back. Drove at 40km/h till i saw a friend's kubota digger. I called him to know where were the keys. And moved the wood with it. 

On my land rover, i can't modify the ball side. It's a special molded iron piece. Made for the LR3. 

I was wondering, first of all, what is the word in english, for the part going over the ball, at the end of the trailer ? 

And i was wondering if anybody knew of a part like this, with an integrated load cell. Which could indicate the hitch weight. In this day and age, it must exist! Even better if it talks with the cell phone. 

Thanks a lot guys. 
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Re: Hitch terms? Load cell?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2021, 06:08:12 AM »
it is a hitch coupler.  we have a range of receiver ball sizes that get larger for increase weight.  I think the cell you desire may be quite expensive to go on a trailer tongue over the road.  but I also do not know of one.  
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Re: Hitch terms? Load cell?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2021, 07:03:28 AM »
Hitch coupler, ball coupler and tongue are pretty interchangeable.  Bulldog is a common brand.  Redneck trailer supply and etrailer.com are the places id call but i doubt that exists.  
 
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2021, 08:07:13 AM »
Thanks a lot guys. I'll have a look at what google says. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2021, 09:11:23 AM »
Over here we have devices which attach between the ball and the hitch receiver. costs zilch, 30 dolls may be. But it's unpratical on uneven ground.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2021, 09:45:34 AM »
Weigh Safe makes a variety of devices to weigh the trailer tongue.  Some are integrated into the ball mount and others are integrated into a stand alone device that you lower the tongue coupler onto.  

I think someone mentioned a eTrailer earlier.  They carry Weigh Safe devices.  They aren't inexpensive.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2021, 10:07:53 AM »
Thanks a lot guys. Sawyer Ted, i had seen this one.

Weigh Safe Universal Tow Ball | Award-Winning Tongue Weight Scale
But i can't see how i could modify this one, to do what i want!



 
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2021, 10:24:13 AM »
is that cast piece removable?  our hitches are often called receivers and you can put other styles in the square hole.  2 inch is typical but on vehicles not designed to carry heavy loads/trailers they put a smaller size.  can you get a Chevy truck?   :)
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2021, 11:41:43 AM »
what the euro is that thing?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2021, 01:01:35 PM »
Try this

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch-Ball/Weigh-Safe/WSUN-2.html

Curt also makes a tongue weight device called BetterWeigh
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Re: Hitch terms? Load cell?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2021, 05:52:03 PM »
 Satamax,

    I don't know if the ball arrangement in France is the same as in Norway. I bet all of Europe is pretty standard on this. As I remember there in Norway they used what looked like a bent bar connected to and from the frame of the vehicle curved up with what looked like about a 1.5" ball on the end. I know the balls was smaller than we typically use in the USA. We use a 1-7/8", a 2" and a 2-5/6" ball with a matching hitch that slips over and locks on it. The ball was pretty high (maybe about a meter) from the ground while our ball is typically 30-40 cm from the ground. I remember most of the cars I saw in Norway had a plug in for electric brakes and it seemed all the trailers had electric brakes while in the USA only the larger trailers typically electric brakes. I assume the electric brakes were essential because many smaller cars were used to haul trailers while in the USA most passenger cars typically only haul small utility or small/lightweight boat trailers and SUVs or trucks are used to haul the heavier work trailers.

   I don't know if this adds and info or helps answer any questions or just raises more.
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Re: Hitch terms? Load cell?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2021, 08:21:47 PM »
You should be able to tell on your own vehicle if you have tongue weight. Try to lift the hitch/coupler area of the trailer and if you can that is not good. You always need a little squat in the rear of the tow vehicle [ and high tire pressure] .


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