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Started by Bosco, October 19, 2023, 08:57:20 AM

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barbender

 I got mine from a company in Minnesota, the name of which escapes me at the moment.
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Quote from: barbender on October 19, 2023, 12:30:47 PMYes you have to take a very light touch with a chain grinder. I don't remember what model I have, it is a Tecomec with the hydraulic clamp. I put a CBN wheel on it, but even with that you have to take a very light grind. It's not a problem with the grinder, but the nature of sawchain IMO. If you grind hard at all, the teeth want to curl and form a bur, which does nut cut well.

 I think the reason a lot of people have a low opinion of chain grinders is that they are grinding too hard and not getting good results. My ground chains cut right with my hand filed ones.

 I don't mean to suggest that everyone is being heavy handed with their grinders, either. On the contrary, you almost have to be ridiculously light handed. I set mine so it is just BARELY touching the teeth, and as I start advancing sometimes I'm not even touching some due to the initial adjustment. So I'll adjust it slightly heavier to grind those teeth and make a complete revolution. As someone else mentioned, tap, tap, tap.

  I've also noticed, at least on my firewood processor, the the ground chains have a far more durable edge. I think that is due to the shape of the edge it leaves. All I know is, once the ground edge dulls, I'll file it a couple of times and then get sick of how quickly they go dull and swap out for a fresh ground chain.

 
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On this thread most don't use a grinder but I like mine and don't want to switch to a manual file again. I need to replace the grinder wheel and most I see online are 1/8" thick. Mine uses 1/4".  What basis for choice for one or the other? 
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doc henderson

Stihl has a thickness recommendation for several of their chains.  It is European and on the chart they use a comma instead of a period and is in mm.



so a .404 uses a 2.8 mm wheel, 3/8th used 2.6 and so on.  I use the same on 3/8th and .404.  I have about 3 thicknesses of wheel.
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 I use a 1/8 CBN wheel on  3/8    .325  and 3/8 lp,  works great,  just get the wheel low enough so you have some hook on the side plate and keep the rakers where they should be.  I really don't thing messing around with different angles matters much. Steve
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Quote from: ladylake on March 08, 2024, 08:09:09 AM\
 I use a 1/8 CBN wheel on  3/8    .325  and 3/8 lp,  works great,  just get the wheel low enough so you have some hook on the side plate and keep the rakers where they should be.  I really don't thing messing around with different angles matters much. Steve
The 1/8 wheel on 3/8 chain (exspecially the first half of its life), will have a lot different profile than a bigger wheel.... Nothing wrong with it at all with it...I will use the smaller wheel or file when the chain gets to like 25-35 percent life left...

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Quote from: barbender on March 06, 2024, 12:02:58 AMI got mine from a company in Minnesota, the name of which escapes me at the moment.
Thanks, would that be Diamond Wheel, Inc. ?

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Yes that is it👍
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YellowHammer

I agree, chain grinding is not that hard, there are only a few adjustments, and it's kind of a non event.  One of the reasons I switched from a CBN was that it built up crud from dirty chains, and the abrasive wheel didn't.   
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Quote from: John Mc on January 08, 2024, 12:32:19 AMSomeone (Gordon?) had a picture of how he welded a stump vise on to the loader on his tractor, which I also though was a great idea.
John, I have a fairly simple solution that has served me for many years:

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3 foot 2X8 with holes for the the stump vice and a little thingie braised to a carriage bolt.

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Ready for the chainsaw bar.  The offset on the board allows room for the chainsaw head.

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With the bar secured.

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The 1X4 is to raise that end up for the wing nut underneath.

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When I am done sharpening, the vice goes in a zip bag and the board goes in the back of my truck.  ffsmiley
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will the rubber like block  that is used for cleaning belt sanders work on a cbn wheel?
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