105cc Holzfforma® Blue Thunder G070 Gasoline Chain Saw

[Randy1949]

Has anyone bought and used a 105cc Holzfforma® Blue Thunder G070 Gasoline Chain Saw? If so what are your thoughts on it?  I am thinking about a large chainsaw for occassional use, not my usual  saw.

[sawguy21]

It will probably be ok for light use but don't expect miracles. For that kind of money I would look for a good used 394/395.

[woodworker9]

Save your money.  Don't buy a chinese knockoff.  For every person that claims a good experience, there are 2 or 3 complaining that they got sold junk....it's just bad economy supporting those junkers.

[weimedog]

Has anyone bought and used a 105cc Holzfforma® Blue Thunder G070 Gasoline Chain Saw? If so what are your thoughts on it?  I am thinking about a large chainsaw for occassional use, not my usual  saw.

Best place to find folks who have actual knowledge on those is over on Facebook, There are a couple of "groups" , all the members are building and or using those blue saws of a variety of sizes. 

[Spike60]

Save your money.  Don't buy a chinese knockoff.  For every person that claims a good experience, there are 2 or 3 complaining that they got sold junk....it's just bad economy supporting those junkers.

I'm with you. I get that these counterfeit saws have become part of the hobby, but that entire business model has a bit of a stench to it. People sometimes wander into the shop with them, but I refuse to work on them. Anyone wants to buy them, fine. But my shop isn't going to function as a support arm for those people. 

[Quadmethyl]

I have a Holtzfforma 070, a Husky 460 Rancher, an old Poulan (when they were made in Louisiana) and the Chinese 070 starts better than any of them. When Stihl no longer makes parts for the 070 and all of a sudden a Chinese company is selling clones, that means Stihl sold their tooling and designs for that saw. Its not counterfeit, its just Chinese. For those of us without a dispoable income to spend 1.5k on a 100+ cc saw for milling, it is the answer. I've milled hundreds of board feet in pine, oak, poplar, and pecan; changed the air and fuel filters and it still starts better than my Husky. Admittedly I'm sure quality assurance isn't as good in the Chinese factories but my saw works every time I need it to which is the point. From what I've heard though, the original 070 was a very dependable saw. The other models by Hutzl may not be as dependable with so many plastic parts. The 070 has very few plastic parts but also has no chainbrake and is heavy and not really a "limbing" saw. For big felling and milling its awesome.

[donbj]

Hit and miss quality and success on hijacked technology and R&D. Keep legitimate companies going by supporting them

[Iwawoodwork]

Are these china chain saws really hijacked technology? The Stihl and Husky saws that china copied are 40 year old saws. I was operating the 070 and Husky 2100 and 166 in the 70's.  My thought is that either the patent protection ran out or the firms sold the antique tooling as we are not hearing any litigation threats from Husky or Stihl. 
These saws are another affordable option for a HOBBY sawyer just like Poulan , Remington Makita or other off brand saws.

[sawguy21]

There is no longer patent infringement involved but they are still shameless copies of existing designs. They even changed the name just enough to avoid litigation. The big problems are shoddy materials and construction along with 0 product support. Buyer beware!!! I am curious how they got into the country without a chain brake. Shipped partially disassembled and labeled as parts?

[donbj]

Are these china chain saws really hijacked technology? The Stihl and Husky saws that china copied are 40 year old saws. I was operating the 070 and Husky 2100 and 166 in the 70's.  My thought is that either the patent protection ran out or the firms sold the antique tooling as we are not hearing any litigation threats from Husky or Stihl.
These saws are another affordable option for a HOBBY sawyer just like Poulan , Remington Makita or other off brand saws.

It goes beyond just dollars for me. Certain economies have been let go too far. Our corporate structure here did it for $ and we bought into it with the cheap prices. I just look at that stupid yellow smiley roll back thing Walmart has and just shake my head. That silly thing mezmerises consumers. It's hard to escape in many ways but things need to be steered back home.

[donbj]

The Stihl and Husky saws that china copied

That says it right there. Copied. Who did all the R&D they copied, and still they didn't do a good job because if they did they would have to charge what a good brand name saw is here.

[HemlockKing]

Save your money.  Don't buy a chinese knockoff.  For every person that claims a good experience, there are 2 or 3 complaining that they got sold junk....it's just bad economy supporting those junkers.

I'm with you. I get that these counterfeit saws have become part of the hobby, but that entire business model has a bit of a stench to it. People sometimes wander into the shop with them, but I refuse to work on them. Anyone wants to buy them, fine. But my shop isn't going to function as a support arm for those people.

Amen. Don’t support shady scam Chinese knockoffs, also, they were probably assembled in North Korea  by children in work camps, then stamped “made in China”. Enough of our money already goes to China. Bout time made in China dies. Junk

[Greenhighlander]

It is one thing to buy a knockoff hand bag for the Mrs . But when it comes to a serious machine that can do very serious harm , I am gonna stick to buying legit quality.   Peace of mind is more then worth the few hundred bucks that might be saved.