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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: Ishvp1979 on February 08, 2019, 09:46:35 AM

Title: Completely Stumped
Post by: Ishvp1979 on February 08, 2019, 09:46:35 AM
This one has me completely stumped. I've shown it to a lot of people, who also don't know what it is. If it's not one thing it's another that's throwing people off. There is a sticky sap coming from under the bark.  
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Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: Ishvp1979 on February 08, 2019, 09:51:17 AM
Two things I should add.  It's not an evergreen (it's leaves had shed) and it's harder than white oak.  Can't be scratched on the end fibers with my knife.  
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: TKehl on February 08, 2019, 12:14:59 PM
Location?
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: Ishvp1979 on February 08, 2019, 01:07:57 PM
Mid/South Louisiana.  Deridder
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: WDH on February 08, 2019, 08:51:53 PM
Can you get a close up bark pic?
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: mike_belben on February 11, 2019, 10:04:18 AM
Kinda resembles red maple with a lot more mineral than normal... or whatever youd call the stain streak.  
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: hacknchop on February 11, 2019, 10:26:51 AM
I'm with Mike on this one have a lot of red mpl on our place we call them all soft mpl as opposed to hard mpl but that's what I  thought.  
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: WDH on February 11, 2019, 08:16:24 PM
That is what I think that it is, too. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: Ljohnsaw on February 11, 2019, 09:03:32 PM
I would just call it spectacular! 8)
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: moodnacreek on February 14, 2019, 06:47:49 PM
I just cut sweet gum and that what it looks like to me.
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: WDH on February 14, 2019, 10:36:55 PM
Our sweetgum is more brown and red with blue and gray streaks. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: Magicman on February 14, 2019, 10:51:25 PM
 
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Sawed Sweetgum last week. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: mike_belben on February 16, 2019, 08:31:18 AM
I think the wood in question is too straight grained to be a gum.  Note the feathers and flames in lynns second post where the grain spirals.
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: WDH on February 16, 2019, 08:19:20 PM
I am confident that it is red maple. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: Magicman on February 16, 2019, 09:09:54 PM
I am just as confident that it ain't Sweetgum. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: two tired on February 16, 2019, 09:41:47 PM
Do you have a picture of  the bark or the  tree standing, was the tree a yard  tree 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: moodnacreek on February 18, 2019, 07:01:34 PM
The sweet gum I sawed was a first for Me. Very uncommon up here, in fact it came from N.J. However I sure have sawed red, silver, Norway and hard maple and never saw sticky sap. The sap on soft maple is like water.
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: mike_belben on February 18, 2019, 07:05:47 PM
Yeah and if you leave two or more sap filled boards stacked together with no air space for a few days youll actually start to smell the sugars in them ferment a little.  It smells like rotten fruit or cider starting to turn. Flies, gnats, ants and yellow jackets all over it. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: trim4u2nv on February 18, 2019, 07:27:39 PM
Looks like chinese elm.  Splits very stringy?, breaks off branches in ice storms?
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: moodnacreek on February 19, 2019, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: trim4u2nv on February 18, 2019, 07:27:39 PM
Looks like chinese elm.  Splits very stringy?, breaks off branches in ice storms?
Well, a non native species. Can't expect the average local to know about trees that don't belong. Dawn redwood is about the only one for me. 
Title: Re: Completely Stumped
Post by: EOTE on February 20, 2019, 12:38:36 AM
I would probably bank on the red maple versus sweetgum (redgum).  The bark in the photos looks similar to sweetgum but the wood grain in sweetgum seems more variable than what I see presented by Ishvp1979 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=44094).   I thought about red elm but the bark and wood is completely different, plus it has a very distinct and really unpleasant odor when cut.

Here are some additional sweetgum photos of logs I have cut.  
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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/54084/IMG_20181004_135509~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1550639591)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/54084/IMG_20181004_135516.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1550639588)
 

Here is red elm...

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/54084/IMG_20181126_143506.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1550640901)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/54084/IMG_20181128_155536.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1550640703)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/54084/IMG_20181128_162001~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1550640703)
 


Thoughts?