how much to pay a skidder to contract

timberjack97 · July 01, 2012, 12:25:26 PM

i need to find a fair rate to pay a skidder on my job its his own skidder i was paying him 55 and hour and paying for the fuel but thats to much to pay him he says he would run his skidder for 48 and hour plus fuel but i still think thats to much pay i need to pay him by the load i think but i need a fair price on what to pay him

Woodhauler · July 01, 2012, 12:48:39 PM

Here we go again!!! PAY HIM BY THE CORD OR TON AND MAKE HIM SUPPLY EVERYTHING!!!! That way he only earns if he works!!!!!!!!!!!!

timberjack97 · July 01, 2012, 12:55:14 PM

i cant pay him by the cord because i get paid by the the load iget paid 325 a load for 3500 board feet a load so what should i pay him per load?

snowstorm · July 01, 2012, 01:05:41 PM

you cut an yard logs and load them for $92.85 per mbf????????somebody saw you coming

timberjack97 · July 01, 2012, 01:07:26 PM

thats what they pay down here i want a price to pay him per load for his skidder

Ed_K · July 01, 2012, 02:07:00 PM

Shut down till the prices rise.A growing tree is making intrest better than a bank.

clww · July 01, 2012, 02:21:17 PM

Quote from: Woodhauler on July 01, 2012, 12:48:39 PM
Here we go again!!! PAY HIM BY THE CORD OR TON AND MAKE HIM SUPPLY EVERYTHING!!!! That way he only earns if he works!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

timberjack97 · July 01, 2012, 02:36:52 PM

how much a ton should i pay him?

jd540b · July 01, 2012, 03:32:03 PM

Dude, I am speechless at this point.......logging is not a guessing game.

Woodhauler · July 01, 2012, 03:37:34 PM

Quote from: timberjack97 on July 01, 2012, 02:36:52 PM
how much a ton should i pay him?

YOU GOT TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!! Check the rates in your area. We can't seem to help you.

treefarmer87 · July 01, 2012, 04:02:40 PM

I carried 2000 bf and got $600 fri. Why are you only getting $325 for a tractor trailer load? You should be getting more for your loads.

SwampDonkey · July 01, 2012, 05:24:52 PM

The guy can't possibly be logging for that and paying $55/hr with the fellas he's in with. Unless he's found some fellas than can produce some wood. This whole show is beginning to look like a clown circus.

snowstorm · July 01, 2012, 05:36:31 PM

it has been for some time

Jamie_C · July 01, 2012, 06:50:23 PM

Quote from: timberjack97 on July 01, 2012, 02:36:52 PM
how much a ton should i pay him?

At the risk of getting my wrist slapped by Jeff or someone else ...

You have to be the most pathetic excuse of a logger and business person i have seen in my 40 yrs on this earth, why don't you do everybody on here a favour and get out a paper and pencil and figure out your own *DanG costs instead of expecting us to magically solve your idiotic problems. You my good man don't have 2 sweet clues to rub together and this whole sob story of your business woes is getting old really fast.

You ask the same questions over and over but don't seem to heed any advice ... And don't even bother putting your phone number up here and challenging me to call you, i wouldn't waste my breath.

Woodhauler · July 01, 2012, 07:20:21 PM

Quote from: Jamie_C on July 01, 2012, 06:50:23 PM
Quote from: timberjack97 on July 01, 2012, 02:36:52 PM
how much a ton should i pay him?

At the risk of getting my wrist slapped by Jeff or someone else ...

You have to be the most pathetic excuse of a logger and business person i have seen in my 40 yrs on this earth, why don't you do everybody on here a favour and get out a paper and pencil and figure out your own *DanG costs instead of expecting us to magically solve your idiotic problems. You my good man don't have 2 sweet clues to rub together and this whole sob story of your business woes is getting old really fast.

You ask the same questions over and over but don't seem to heed any advice ... And don't even bother putting your phone number up here and challenging me to call you, i wouldn't waste my breath.

X1

Jeff · July 01, 2012, 07:31:03 PM

Quote from: Jamie_C on July 01, 2012, 06:50:23 PM
Quote from: timberjack97 on July 01, 2012, 02:36:52 PM
how much a ton should i pay him?

You ask the same questions over and over but don't seem to heed any advice ... And don't even bother putting your phone number up here and challenging me to call you, i wouldn't waste my breath.

He did do that here...
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,58835.msg857591.html#msg857591

I'm not slapping no wrists because it appears to me ya'll have this under control. Just be sure you don't cross any lines that would be considered bad taste by those who come here to read what we leave behind.

chevytaHOE5674 · July 01, 2012, 08:30:45 PM

With what your getting paid for a load of wood I would either find someplace else that pays better or shut down until prices rise because you are going broke cutting for those kinds of prices.

Norm · July 02, 2012, 07:09:39 AM

I'll have to admit I've been sitting here shaking my head on this. I'm not a logger by any stretch just sell logs from land clearing and such but there's no way you can maintain and fuel equipment on those prices. I'm with the rest here and have my doubts.

MJD · July 02, 2012, 07:10:33 AM

His numbers dont seem that far off if he is cutting some one elses wood, when I stopped logging a couple years ago I got $100 to $110 a thousand cut and skid and I think thats where its still at today in my area. If he is cutting his own wood and selling for that $ he would be better off flipping burgers ;D

MJD · July 02, 2012, 07:28:52 AM

Quote from: MJD on July 02, 2012, 07:10:33 AM
His numbers dont seem that far off if he is cutting some one elses wood, when I stopped logging a couple years ago I got $100 to $110 a thousand cut and skid and I think thats where its still at today in my area. If he is cutting his own wood and selling for that $ he would be better off flipping burgers ;D

This was cutting with a chainsaw and skid with a cable skidder.

tyb525 · July 02, 2012, 08:05:06 AM

Timberjack97, if you want to log it sounds like you'd be better off logging for someone else that has an established company, that way you don't have to do any thinking as far as running the business, and we will all be happier.

smwwoody · July 02, 2012, 08:43:06 AM

TJ 97

Are you cutting for a mill or do you have to pay stumpage out of that?

smwwoody · July 02, 2012, 08:49:35 AM

I havent worked in your area in a few years. but when i did we got around $110/mbf doyel scale to cut and skid. that was about $375 / tri axle load. 2 men 2 saws 1 cable skidder averaged 2 loads/ day. you didnt get ritch but made a good living.

you have a timbco and a loader added to this equation that meens you need way more than 2 loads a day.

what kind of trucks are you hauling on? are they your trucks or the mills trucks?

Woody

a old timberjack · July 02, 2012, 12:52:23 PM

Quote from: clww on July 01, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: Woodhauler on July 01, 2012, 12:48:39 PM
Here we go again!!! PAY HIM BY THE CORD OR TON AND MAKE HIM SUPPLY EVERYTHING!!!! That way he only earns if he works!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1

im with them, by the cord or by the ton. alot of guys around here pay 130.00$ a thousand ft (mbf ) to cut n skid. they supply there own equipment and fuel. and if it is firewood, guys pay 50.00 $ a cord in the landing, exactly, HERE WE GO AGIAN!!!! if your guy is ambicious, he will work if not, no money off your wallet. make his own pile in the landing seprate from yours, and another thing, they pay on mill ticket. that guy is making the money, not you!!!

lumberjack48 · July 02, 2012, 03:37:26 PM

1996 the last logs we pulled, we got $44. per MBF on the landing, and $16. a cord for 100" wood. If i could have got the kind of money your talking here, i could have made a $1000. a day.
The wife and me in good pine pulled 2 loads of logs a day, 10,000 bf, $440., i sure wish i could have got $130.- $1300. a day, skidder and a chainsaw, thats good money.