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Started by Magicman, February 23, 2023, 04:25:03 PM

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esteadle

Quote from: Dan_Shade on February 24, 2023, 08:38:35 AM
Speaking of grease, do any of you have a method of removing broken press in grease fittings?
If you have a few different sizes of hex or Torx bits handy, this little trick seems like a winner:
How to remove a broken grease fitting - YouTube


Dad2FourWI

Nice! I will remember that little gem of information!

I have a ton of those misc T-bits... I'll toss a few into my toolbox that holds all my grease gun/zerks/etc maintenance stuff.

Thanks for sharing   ;D
LT-40, LT-10, EG-50, Bobcat T750 CTL, Ford 1910 tractor, tree farmer

caveman

I appreciate all of the guidance on the oil level tube.  I pulled the cover off today to check it and the tube was broken.  When I touched it, it came apart in my hand.  I did not have any 3/8" clear tubing so off to TSC I went.  I poured fresh ATF in and drained it once before filling and attaching the tube at the top.  The mill has 496 hours, and it was due to be changed at 500 according to the manual.


 

 

 

 
My intention was to saw some 1x6's for a customer while waiting for JMoore to get off work so we could return to the salt mines (jointing and planing another pallet of live oak).  Instead, I got to do this small repair job.  The 1x can wait until the morning.  I did saw six or seven short pine logs to use for above ground planters similar to the one I made two years ago that recently bit the dust (pictured below).

 
Caveman

Dan_Shade

One broken off grease fitting 



 
Woodmizer LT40HDG25 / Stihl 066 alaskan
lots of dull bands and chains

There's a fine line between turning firewood into beautiful things and beautiful things into firewood.

Magicman

Quote from: caveman on February 24, 2023, 04:38:22 PMI appreciate all of the guidance on the oil level tube.
Nice save Kyle.  
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Magicman

Dan, if all else fails you always have the option of drilling and tapping a new hole.
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caveman

I've never tried it on a grease fitting, but if all else fails and you have access to a welder, you may clean the fitting very well and weld a nut to it.  The nut will give you something to get a hold on and the heat from the welding process will likely expedite the extraction.

Several years ago, I thought it would be easier to remove my truck's bed rather than drop the fuel tank to work on the fuel pick up.  All was going well until one of the bed to frame bolts (big torx head) would not budge, even after breaking two torx 1/2" impact bits.  I welded a 1" nut on it and with the help of a lengthy bar it came out. 
Caveman

TroyC

I'd vote for the drill and tap. Looks like easy access. Had one of those press in zerks pop out recently. Drilled and threaded another one in, next size up, fixed.  8)

SawyerTed

Quote from: Dan_Shade on February 24, 2023, 03:18:59 PM
It's broke off at the surface, I thought it was threaded, an easy out just spins it in the hole...
Use a center punch to tighten the zerk in the hole by punching the edge.  Once tight drill it out.  
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firefighter ontheside

I went to my lawn and garden place in town and got oil, fuel and air filters, plus 3 quarts of oil.  Oil change went well.  Fuel filter change went well.  Air filter was the wrong one.  The one I got was too tall.  I wonder if they'll let me bring it back to exchange an open package.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

Bruno of NH

Quote from: scsmith42 on February 24, 2023, 05:43:18 AM
Quote from: Magicman on February 23, 2023, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: scsmith42 on February 23, 2023, 04:45:01 PMHow much time do you have to discuss this?
You are correct Scott, but I was thinking this morning about how much routine stuff that we do that just might help someone else.

Maybe having a maintenance topic is a good idea?  If not it will simply die.
Ah, thanks for the e clarification.  In my mind I confused "maintenance" with "repair"
One of the things that we do is use a leaf blower to blow out the mill at the end of every day's milling.  That helps to keep potential issues visible.  
We do the same after lunch and the end of the day 
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

beenthere

Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 25, 2023, 02:13:27 PM
I went to my lawn and garden place in town and got oil, fuel and air filters, plus 3 quarts of oil.  Oil change went well.  Fuel filter change went well.  Air filter was the wrong one.  The one I got was too tall.  I wonder if they'll let me bring it back to exchange an open package.
Your mistake or theirs?
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

Sixacresand

Back to reply #28: Drive Wheel shaft/bearings assembly oil.  It does not take long for the assembly to lock up without oil. I replace the tube and ATF, got it broke loose and so far have milled about 75 hours.  I know I will eventually have to replace the assembly.  

It is a pretty flimsy set up for such a important part of the machine.  I think a dip stick would have better.  Imagine a plastic sight glass to check engine oil or gas tank.  

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=121104.msg1955038#msg1955038
"Sometimes you can make more hay with less equipment if you just use your head."  Tom, Forestry Forum.  Tenth year with a LT40 Woodmizer,

barbender

That clear tube is a horrible idea, imo. Like SAS said, a dipstick would be way better. Even a plug at the fill height would be way better. That's all I have on the ol' '97.
Too many irons in the fire

Magicman

I am content with the sight tube and I give it a look-see whenever that cover is off.  I have never had it to be low on fluid in 20 years of sawing and replace the fluid and tube every couple of years.  

I dislike all of the covers but I also realize that they are necessary.  I may investigate whether there is or could be a way to view the tube without removing the cover.  Of course that would also allow sawdust to enter so.... ::)

Weather permitting I will be sawing SYP Monday.
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

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YellowHammer

FWIW, my sight tube degraded on my old LT40 also, so I replaced it with the fuel and lubricant rated Tygon, it is yellow and still see through.  It will last much longer than the clear tubing which isn't formulated for long term chemical exposures.
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

WV Sawmiller

 

 
Normal daily checks before starting sawing discovered  the chip deflector was against the drive side roller guide. I pulled the deflector away but the roller guide did not roll freely and looked a little worn - I don't know how long I had run it while blocked. I had a spare and it was a few minutes work with a 3/8" socket set to change it out and I was ready to resume milling. Now I just need to order another spare roller guide.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

Magicman

It's amazing how chips & sawdust can gradually bend that chip deflector.  I replaced my blade guide assembly last Summer and I noticed last week that the deflector is no more than 1/8" from the roller.  

Yup, I order a half dozen rollers at the time plus that many cam followers.  When I get down to two, it's time to reorder.  I always try to kinda make the shipping worthwhile.


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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Old Greenhorn

Howard, you don't do a full blade guide alignment when you replace the roller to check head and blade tilt? Takes me longer than a few minutes to get all that done right. That roller sure does look toasted though but I can't see how much wear is on it.
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way. NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

WV Sawmiller

Tom,

   I did not in this case as I was just sawing a couple of items for my own use and they looked good but I will verify with a quick measurement check. I did not loosen any of the set screws so I will be surprised if there is any change.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

Magicman

Yesterday I notice that the last log loaded slower than normal so I glanced at my indicator lights.  The left light was sorta flashing rather than steady so I grabbed a new solenoid from the tool box.



 
The one on the right got replaced, so it was a simple and easy fix.


 Both lights glowing brightly now. 
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Jim_Rogers

YH: so I replaced it with the fuel and lubricant rated Tygon

Where did you get that tubing? which store?

Jim Rogers
Whatever you do, have fun doing it!
Woodmizer 1994 LT30HDG24 with 6' Bed Extension

Magicman

The 3 PSI check valve failed in my LubeMizer yesterday and instead of removing the cover and replacing that "hard-to-get-to" check valve, I left that one in place and installed the new check valve "in line".


 
I had already decided what I was going to do so I had everything ready.  This may not be the ideal spot nor the permanent spot but it worked very well today.
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Dan_Shade

@Magicman Do you have a link to your LED mod? 
Woodmizer LT40HDG25 / Stihl 066 alaskan
lots of dull bands and chains

There's a fine line between turning firewood into beautiful things and beautiful things into firewood.

Magicman

Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

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