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Title: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 14, 2018, 08:09:41 PM
I scored these today. A guy that runs a circle mill up the road from me had to call it quits. The deal was too good to pass up.
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Title: Re: Score
Post by: Darrel on April 14, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
Looks like you scored high. 
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Post by: D6c on April 15, 2018, 08:33:13 AM
Looks like a good deal....I'd like to find a dust collector like that.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 15, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
Don't unload that stuff! Bring it to me.
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Post by: scully on April 15, 2018, 09:47:12 AM
That will save you some work for sure . share pic's when you get it set up with the mill !
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Post by: Percy on April 15, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
I'm liking the looks of that sawdust blower.  Good find. 
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 15, 2018, 11:36:43 AM
I'm really looking forward to getting this equipment into my operation. Unfortunately I   am stuck in a little hole right now and don't have room to set it up. But I just couldn't pass this stuff up.
I'm in the process of closing a deal on 17 acres though and can't wait to get my operation moved out there. It will be quite awhile but yes lots of pictures to come.
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 15, 2018, 11:40:40 AM
I was told that this blower is meant to drop the sawdust out the bottom gently and not have to be over a sealed container. But I have not done the research on it yet. Any idea how to tell?
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PA_Walnut on April 15, 2018, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: PAmizerman on April 15, 2018, 11:40:40 AMI was told that this blower is meant to drop the sawdust out the bottom gently and not have to be over a sealed container. But I have not done the research on it yet. Any idea how to tell?


It appears to be a cyclone, so it should just drop the heavier materials out the bottom. The smaller particles either stay in suspension until they migrate downward far enough or follow the lower-resistance exit path, usually into a filter.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/46676/cyclone.gif?easyrotate_cache=1523807135)
Title: Re: Score
Post by: YellowHammer on April 15, 2018, 11:59:58 AM
Its feeding the sawdust through the blower, into the side duct, pushing the material through the cyclone.  The dust spins out the bottom, the exhaust air is driven out of the top.  

If the blower motor was on the top it would require a vacuum to pull the material into the cyclone, which requires a sealed bin on the sawdust drop funnel.

I set my cyclone up like your picture, and it will indeed drop the sawdust straight down into a nice pile.  I drop mine into a self dumping forklift hopper.  
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 15, 2018, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: YellowHammer on April 15, 2018, 11:59:58 AM
Its feeding the sawdust through the blower, into the side duct, pushing the material through the cyclone.  The dust spins out the bottom, the exhaust air is driven out of the top.  

If the blower motor was on the top it would require a vacuum to pull the material into the cyclone, which requires a sealed bin on the sawdust drop funnel.

I set my cyclone up like your picture, and it will indeed drop the sawdust straight down into a nice pile.  I drop mine into a self dumping forklift hopper.  
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PA_Walnut on April 16, 2018, 06:52:07 AM
Nice score! I'm tired of shoveling sawdust next to my mill and about to put it on a slab, take the wheels off and make it stationary. So, sawdust extraction is on the agenda What brands/setup are available readily? YellowHammer?

I understand Baker has/had something and TimberKing also. I'd like to avoid 3-phase if possible. I have plenty of single-phase power, but don't really want to do a convertor, drive, etc.

Thx
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Post by: Trapper John on April 20, 2018, 04:18:56 PM
Are the conveyors part of the dust collection system?
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 20, 2018, 06:36:11 PM
No the conveyors don't go with the sawdust blower. 
The one that is on it's side will either tail boards off the mill or be used as a return for the edger. I picked up another one that is near identical to that one at an auction last year.
As for the 16' paddle conveyor I'm thinking of maybe using behind my chopsaws to carry cutoffs out to a bin. I'm not completely sure yet. It was just too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Score
Post by: YellowHammer on April 20, 2018, 11:11:40 PM
For sawdust out of the sawmill chute, I've finally got a system that's working great.  It's a Woodmaster/Timberking 5 hp single phase 220 blower going into an Oneida cyclone and all the sawdust dropping into a forklift self dumping hopper.  The outlet of the mill goes to flex hose, a rotating ball joint and into the hard pipe.  The setup is very similar to what PAmizerman scored.  The dust collection blower services my whole shop with a planer, straight line rip saw, 20 inch jointer, occasional edger, and chop saw.  With a 5 hp I can run any two at the same time.  No more spraying sawdust out over the back 40 acres anymore, it piles in the hopper clean as a pile of sand.  I pick the bin up with my front end loader forks, drive to my field edge, or wherever else I want mulch, pull a chain and the hopper automatically dumps.  
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21488/IMG_1606.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1524279389)
Since bark chips, vines, other junk falls under the mill, the blower can't pick it up, I'd use the paddle conveyor directly under the mill, in a trough, and use it to clean under the mill at the end of the day.  

You scored some really nice stuff.
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 21, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Indeed nice stuff! I feel very fortunate to have been able to get these items. 
I like the idea of the conveyor under the mill. That will work out good with my design plan. I am planning to put a slightly elevated wood floor in. So the conveyor could be tucked right between the floor joists. I also picked up a 20' grain elevator last year that I could use there if needed. Thanks for the idea yellow hammer.
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PA_Walnut on April 22, 2018, 05:54:12 AM
Quote from: YellowHammer on April 20, 2018, 11:11:40 PMIt's a Woodmaster/Timberking 5 hp single phase 220 blower going into an Oneida cyclone and all the sawdust dropping into a forklift self dumping hopper.


Yellow, it would be great to see this setup (with the cyclone). I have an Oneida cyclone with a 2 HP for my previous woodworking shop. Worked great. 

The WoodMaster/Timeberking 5HP--is it still made? I've looked for this several years ago and couldn't find a thing listed on their site.

THanks.
Title: Re: Score
Post by: YellowHammer on April 28, 2018, 12:03:34 AM
Here is the link to the 5 hp blower

Electric Wood Planers & Molding Machines | Woodmaster Tools (https://woodmastertools.com/NS/accessdetail.cfm?PID=88)
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PA_Walnut on April 28, 2018, 07:02:18 AM
Thanks Yellow! Much appreciated...once again!  8)
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Post by: PAmizerman on April 20, 2024, 08:28:54 PM
Another score today.
$100 for all the sticks and both racks.

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Title: Re: Score
Post by: Andries on April 20, 2024, 08:51:59 PM
Nice! As Darrel said in 2018, it looks like you scored high.  :thumbsup:   
Those racks look super heavy built – may be too heavy just for stickers? 
Great find. 
The sticker police won't have any complaints about your stacking from here on in.    :wink_2:
Title: Re: Score
Post by: rusticretreater on April 20, 2024, 09:54:07 PM
Not Fair! Not Fair! :thumbsup:
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Post by: Peter Drouin on April 20, 2024, 10:13:26 PM
I made racks like that for my slabs to feed into the chipper.
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Post by: Bruno of NH on April 21, 2024, 06:51:14 AM
Very nice
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Post by: Nebraska on April 21, 2024, 09:34:27 AM
Dang I guess so. 
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Post by: Stephen1 on April 21, 2024, 09:43:17 AM
Good score on the equipment and stickers. 
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Post by: mudfarmer on April 22, 2024, 08:30:03 AM
That's a real nice score indeed :thumbsup:  Another good use for those heavy duty racks would be next to an edger, with space between the two racks for equipment forks. Edger tail man puts the edgings in the rack, when full they get banded and the whole bundle can be lifted out with the machine.
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 22, 2024, 09:16:26 PM
There is no edger tailman here!!
 ffsmiley
https://youtu.be/_ZQ1sy0_0EQ?si=s16XzdHZdNLIom0n
Title: Re: Score
Post by: mudfarmer on April 23, 2024, 09:09:54 AM
Ok your edger tail robot automoton ffcheesy
Title: Re: Score
Post by: Magicman on April 23, 2024, 09:24:36 AM
I wonder how he handles/removes the edgings?  Rubber boots!
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Post by: mudfarmer on April 23, 2024, 10:21:51 AM
If you look closely the black bottom legs on the edger outfeed table may be telescoping. So my guess is it has a grapple that picks up the bundle of edgings and the machine just walks them to where they need to go while he has lunch??? ffsmiley
Title: Re: Score
Post by: Andries on April 23, 2024, 04:54:21 PM
Quote from: mudfarmer on April 23, 2024, 10:21:51 AM. . . my guess is it has a grapple that picks up the bundle of edgings and the machine just walks them to where they need to go while he has lunch??? ffsmiley
I think that would be called the Jetson's "Elon Musk" approach.  ffcheesy 

On those YouTube videos, I'm seeing the edgings falling onto an oversized pallet with sides attached that clears the bottom of the edger out-feed. I'm guessing that our @PAmizerman uses a forklift to slide the edgings pallet from undertone edger and over to a banding machine. 
Up here in the far 'up-yonder', @Percy seems to have similar conveyors and kickers working for him.
Ten thousand steps in a day? Maybe.
One man operations bring out the best innovations.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Score
Post by: PAmizerman on April 26, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
I took some more videos 
https://youtu.be/FxzAFan2S-A?si=3HnFeQ9uBIJs1n5V

https://youtu.be/OgwG17OBo3o?si=1FcBBX6zGWyl9hVv
Title: Re: Score
Post by: Andries on April 26, 2024, 09:08:44 PM
Great way to deal with all the trimmings after the edger is finished its work.
Not sure if it's your original design, but it looks like it works really well. 
Well done!
Title: Re: Score
Post by: Magicman on April 26, 2024, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Magicman on April 23, 2024, 09:24:36 AMI wonder how he handles/removes the edgings?
That answers my edging removal question.  :thumbsup: