Most unique foreign object.

chickenchaser · February 15, 2016, 02:35:32 PM

Quote from: ncsawyer on February 15, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
they must have entered the tree and then turned 90 degrees before stopping.

Years ago, I put up a large piece of heavy paper/cardboard as a target for some pistol practice. I shot a few rounds from my .357 and .380 auto. No surprises good or bad. I decided to check out one of my Dad's .25 auto...
BIG surprise! Even at close range, there was no grouping. The biggest surprise, however, was that instead of a nice clean hole - the .25s gave me their "side profile".

Your find being in an 8" group is a good indication as to something besides a .25 auto. :D

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Clevelander · February 15, 2016, 03:01:30 PM

Quote from: ncsawyer on February 15, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
I wish I had a picture, but one of the neatest things I sawed into was a "target practice tree". In one pass (maybe the second pass) I cut 7 or 8 bullets almost exactly in two, long-ways.

They were all the same caliber and all the same bullet. They all entered the tree in a 8 inch group and traveled the exact same distance into the tree and turned up. Each bullet was facing toward the top of the tree. So they must have entered the tree and then turned 90 degrees before stopping.

I could not have cut all these bullets in half like that if I had tried, especially on the same pass. The consistency in bullet orientation and depth was the most amazing part of it.

Now that's a piece I would have had to have kept for myself. Sounds like a work of art.

outpost22 · February 21, 2016, 10:51:43 AM

Since I'm new at this, I don't have many stories about milling. However, I did find this yesterday in some cedar I was sawing. It showed up at the edge of 2 planks. Unfortunately my buddy moved it from it's original location before I could get a picture of it as found. It is part of a copper ring. The metal detector didn't catch it.

kelLOGg · January 27, 2018, 07:49:05 PM

Can anyone identify this? It's a brass cup with a lead mushroom hat - best I can come up with. About 1/2" across. The 2 opposing boards are shown and the object which I cut in half. It was about 14' up in the oak and fairly near the surface.

Kbeitz · January 27, 2018, 07:51:37 PM

Bullet...

Don_Papenburg · January 27, 2018, 08:44:50 PM

I would go out on a limb also and suggest that it might just be a bullet

kelLOGg · January 27, 2018, 08:54:02 PM

Why the brass part? the target? part of the shell casing? it is from a city tree.

isawlogs · January 27, 2018, 08:55:25 PM

Modern hunting bullet. Been there sawed a few of those. ;)

Ljohnsaw · January 27, 2018, 09:01:38 PM

Maybe a copper jacketed bullet?

Magicman · January 27, 2018, 09:24:27 PM

I have sawed several and from different angles. I always show them to the customer so that he can make something special with the board showing the severed jacketed bullet.

City tree, well folks also shoot in town and sometimes miss and hit a tree. ;D

Jeff · January 27, 2018, 09:26:11 PM

Yup, just a jacketed bullet. I hit hundreds of them. Some times dozens in a single "target" tree.

moodnacreek · January 27, 2018, 09:27:32 PM

When I first started I hit a steel wedge with a solid tooth circle saw; a ring of fire and 3/8" off every tooth. I retoothed it and soon after bought my first insert tooth saw. Another time I sawed a truck load of hemlock full of bullets all lead/copper, just kept sawing. I am just north of west point military reservation and the old timers spoke of hard bullets in the trees from there.

Magicman · January 27, 2018, 09:35:17 PM

I sawed one ERC log that had this:

Steel shotgun shot. Talk about ruining a blade.

ToddsPoint · January 28, 2018, 06:13:02 AM

I made a trip to Fajen Gunstock Co. in MO back in the 80's. During the tour they showed me an iron they hit in a walnut crotch. It was the old kind of iron for ironing clothes that was not electric. It was heated up and used then put "somewhere" to cool. The "somewhere" must have been the walnut crotch after it was used the last time. Gary

kelLOGg · January 28, 2018, 06:33:59 AM

Well, there is certainly a consensus. Is there ammo that is brass-clad? Why is there an apparent void between the lead and the cladding? I would expect them to be smashed together after hitting an oak. I will count the rings and tell the customer when someone shot his tree. ;)

ToddsPoint, How long does it take a walnut to grow around an iron?? I guess that is a question for a forester. ;D

WDH · January 28, 2018, 07:13:12 AM

Well, sorry to have to be so technical on this answer, but how long does it take for a walnut tree to grow around an iron? It takes a spell ;D.

Kbeitz · January 28, 2018, 08:22:20 AM

Quote from: kelLOGg on January 28, 2018, 06:33:59 AM
Well, there is certainly a consensus. Is there ammo that is brass-clad? Why is there an apparent void between the lead and the cladding? I would expect them to be smashed together after hitting an oak. I will count the rings and tell the customer when someone shot his tree. ;)

ToddsPoint, How long does it take a walnut to grow around an iron?? I guess that is a question for a forester. ;D

Brass is a metallic alloy that is made of copper and zinc.
There is a bullet in the tip of this wood. So I made this

Magicman · January 28, 2018, 08:30:33 AM

QuoteWhy is there an apparent void between the lead and the cladding? I would expect them to be smashed together after hitting an oak.

Much can happen when a bullet strikes an object, especially something as solid as a tree. By design the jacket peels back forming a mushroom and since the lead core has the bullet's weight, inertia causes it to keep moving forward. Bullets sometime separate and loose their lead cores inside of an animal.

kelLOGg · January 28, 2018, 03:39:32 PM

Thanks, MM. That makes sense.

scully · January 28, 2018, 11:35:49 PM

I have sawed into a bunch of bullets ,I never thought it would be so common . The weirdest thing was a huge red oak log that had lightning protection in it . I hit copper cable and copper hardware . Plus some steel spikes . I hated that log .

Beavertooth · January 29, 2018, 12:23:39 PM

I sawed into a rock about 4 inches inside a tree that had gotten set on a limb and then tree grew around it. The guy I bought my first mill from told me he sawed into a flintlock pistol in a tree in Vicksburg Ms.

DanMc · January 29, 2018, 02:52:42 PM

Quote from: kelLOGg on January 27, 2018, 07:49:05 PM
Can anyone identify this? It's a brass cup with a lead mushroom hat - best I can come up with. About 1/2" across. The 2 opposing boards are shown and the object which I cut in half. It was about 14' up in the oak and fairly near the surface.

I think that's a brass-jacketed hollow-point round. You can see how the hollow-point leaded end is mushroomed out. The staining in the wood shows the entrypoint is behind the brass jacket. Pretty neat find.

caveman · January 29, 2018, 07:04:35 PM

I don't know how unique this is but this old livestock panel from my deceased neighbor's old cow pens has become part of this live oak tree.

kelLOGg · January 29, 2018, 10:43:11 PM

The neighborhood where the tree grew and when the bullet hit it (about 10 to 15 years ago) was a rough area with gangs. It is now being "gentrified" according to my customer/friend. He is interested in the bullet halves for documenting the history. He told me of a house that was the "arsenal" not too far from his. I gave him one half bullet and will give him the other half when the board it is in dries. He will do something interesting with it.
Bob