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Title: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 15, 2019, 03:20:43 PM
I've been waiting,,, a bit impatiently I might add.

Our new iDRY Standard was loaded at the factory last Friday, 11/8, and estimated delivery Monday, 11/11. His truck broke down in Cleveland and had two deliveries before getting to our place. The truck is repaired, the two deliveries have been made and if the sky doesn't fall, we should see it at 9:00 am tomorrow morning. I feel bad for the trucker, 4 days of down time doesn't buy many beans.

I'll get some pictures of the off-loading and the install this weekend. I should have everything set up for the electrician on Monday morning. Looking forward to getting it going. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Glenn1 on November 15, 2019, 07:34:08 PM
I think that youíll really enjoy having it
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: nativewolf on November 17, 2019, 10:10:54 AM
I've been waiting,,, a bit impatiently I might add.

Our new iDRY Standard was loaded at the factory last Friday, 11/8, and estimated delivery Monday, 11/11. His truck broke down in Cleveland and had two deliveries before getting to our place. The truck is repaired, the two deliveries have been made and if the sky doesn't fall, we should see it at 9:00 am tomorrow morning. I feel bad for the trucker, 4 days of down time doesn't buy many beans.

I'll get some pictures of the off-loading and the install this weekend. I should have everything set up for the electrician on Monday morning. Looking forward to getting it going.
Did that arrive?
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: samandothers on November 17, 2019, 11:56:20 PM
I hope it arrived safely and you are setting it up.  Look forward to hearing your stories.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 18, 2019, 03:18:30 PM
Well it's finally here, showed up Saturday morning. Trucker had to replace a front axle in Cleveland, ouch.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574106973)

Had plenty of equipment, it's off the truck.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 18, 2019, 03:19:51 PM
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~1.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574107011)
In to the shop with it.

Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: E-Tex on November 18, 2019, 04:43:34 PM
Congratulations.  Please keep pics and updates coming!
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 18, 2019, 04:46:39 PM
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574106437)
Sliding in using equipment skates. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 18, 2019, 04:48:27 PM
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574107044)
Almost there. That's one pooped out fella.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 18, 2019, 04:50:39 PM
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~3.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574107703)
The idry has landed. Leveled to drain and the rail system and dolly are set. Not a bad Saturday.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 18, 2019, 05:08:20 PM
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~4.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574107082)
The electrician was right on time today. The new 60 amp circuit installed and the kiln is powered up. I put the recirc system together this weekend and that's all connected as well.

We're currently going through a dry run. Vacuum system and recirc worked flawlessly to the required set point, fan and heat are cooking along. Will start loading some silver maple and ash of our own tomorrow night for the maiden voyage. 

Seems like a very well built unit. I frequently deal with some very high end water and waste water treatment equipment and I can say that this thing appears to be well made with a simple interface. Now it's time to put it to work. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: YellowHammer on November 18, 2019, 06:57:48 PM
What? Itís got handprints on it already!  Itís too pretty for that.

It looks nice! 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Stephen1 on November 18, 2019, 07:18:37 PM

The idry has landed. Leveled to drain and the rail system and dolly are set. Not a bad Saturday.
Looks great ,congratulations!
One thing I learned was not to much slope for the drain. The idea is for the water to cover the floor of the kiln as it moves to the back corner. 
Are you going to track the drain water out of the kiln?
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: goose63 on November 18, 2019, 07:42:09 PM
Tim I'm going to make a trip up to your place this weekend and have a look at this 8)
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 19, 2019, 10:54:38 AM
What? Itís got handprints on it already!  Itís too pretty for that.

It looks nice!
I know, the dust drove me crazy. Right after this pic we mixed a totty to celebrate and wiped it down,,,now I'm better. ;D
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 19, 2019, 11:03:21 AM

The idry has landed. Leveled to drain and the rail system and dolly are set. Not a bad Saturday.
Looks great ,congratulations!
One thing I learned was not to much slope for the drain. The idea is for the water to cover the floor of the kiln as it moves to the back corner.
Are you going to track the drain water out of the kiln?
Thanks. I think I've got a pretty gradual slope to it, but I'll keep an eye on that. I hadn't planned on keeping track of the drain water. Is there a benefit?
We're going to start loading it this evening. I have silver maple and ash that is all air dried from 9-13 moisture, so this first load is not going to take very long. My biggest issue is going to be the stacking. It's all relatively short and odd shaped stuff that we've saved for CNC work and is of less value. The challenge will be the baffeling. Should make for an interesting pic when I get the jigsaw puzzle put together. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 19, 2019, 11:11:38 AM
Tim I'm going to make a trip up to your place this weekend and have a look at this 8)
Ken, That would be great but I may be out of town. Give me call
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 19, 2019, 12:12:19 PM

Sounds like my typical stack thus far.  ;D I can't seem to do enough stuff all the same size and wind up with a stacking nightmare. But you may find that if you have a six pack available when you are loading, after a few different options are exhausted and the six pack is diminished, you start to be a little less picky and the stack gets done. :D
 Seriously, this is a beautiful piece of equipment ad I am very jealous indeed. I just wish we had one in our area. I wish you all the best with it. I bet that load drys in no time at all.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: E-Tex on November 25, 2019, 05:46:55 PM

The idry has landed. Leveled to drain and the rail system and dolly are set. Not a bad Saturday.
Looks great ,congratulations!
One thing I learned was not to much slope for the drain. The idea is for the water to cover the floor of the kiln as it moves to the back corner.
Are you going to track the drain water out of the kiln?
Thanks. I think I've got a pretty gradual slope to it, but I'll keep an eye on that. I hadn't planned on keeping track of the drain water. Is there a benefit?
We're going to start loading it this evening. I have silver maple and ash that is all air dried from 9-13 moisture, so this first load is not going to take very long. My biggest issue is going to be the stacking. It's all relatively short and odd shaped stuff that we've saved for CNC work and is of less value. The challenge will be the baffeling. Should make for an interesting pic when I get the jigsaw puzzle put together.
@boonesyard (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=39257) , did you get your first load in the i-dry?
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 26, 2019, 12:07:30 PM

The idry has landed. Leveled to drain and the rail system and dolly are set. Not a bad Saturday.
Looks great ,congratulations!
One thing I learned was not to much slope for the drain. The idea is for the water to cover the floor of the kiln as it moves to the back corner.
Are you going to track the drain water out of the kiln?
Thanks. I think I've got a pretty gradual slope to it, but I'll keep an eye on that. I hadn't planned on keeping track of the drain water. Is there a benefit?
We're going to start loading it this evening. I have silver maple and ash that is all air dried from 9-13 moisture, so this first load is not going to take very long. My biggest issue is going to be the stacking. It's all relatively short and odd shaped stuff that we've saved for CNC work and is of less value. The challenge will be the baffeling. Should make for an interesting pic when I get the jigsaw puzzle put together.
@boonesyard (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=39257) , did you get your first load in the i-dry?
We did. We loaded a mixture of our own stuff that had been air dried with mc's between 10-13%. It was a mix of 4/4 and 8/4 which included ash, silver maple, elm and a little black walnut. We had it on high power for 3 days, pulled it Saturday night and everything tested between 5.8-8%. This is the first load before it was baffled. (http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~6.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574783165)
This is the second load, went in on Sunday evening. As you can see, different thicknesses and species. MCs varied from 20-40%. We are running this load at low power for the first week, then we'll see how it's doing.
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~7.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574783194)
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Stephen1 on November 26, 2019, 09:03:36 PM
I always like to keep an eye on the water draining out of the kiln. The dryer it is , less water coming out. 
I have never run the kiln on low power. I understand the low power works great on green oak. Let us know what the temperature gets up to after a week. Curious minds would like to know. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 26, 2019, 10:14:09 PM
I didn't know what to expect, but it seems to be ramping up. The graph shows it ran at 100 deg the first day, day two it ramped up to 130. A LOT more water was dumped today than yesterday (which makes sense). I'm not sure if it will continue to ramp up to 160 eventually, or if it levels out at a lower temp? I'll certainly keep an eye on it and let you know.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Stephen1 on November 27, 2019, 08:21:01 AM
I didn't know what to expect, but it seems to be ramping up. The graph shows it ran at 100 deg the first day, day two it ramped up to 130. A LOT more water was dumped today than yesterday (which makes sense). I'm not sure if it will continue to ramp up to 160 eventually, or if it levels out at a lower temp? I'll certainly keep an eye on it and let you know.
What Temerature are you keeping your building at?
I keep mine around the 60F and I get those same Temps at Full power.


@Japarker4 what will the low power mode temperature come up to?
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 27, 2019, 10:10:57 AM
I didn't know what to expect, but it seems to be ramping up. The graph shows it ran at 100 deg the first day, day two it ramped up to 130. A LOT more water was dumped today than yesterday (which makes sense). I'm not sure if it will continue to ramp up to 160 eventually, or if it levels out at a lower temp? I'll certainly keep an eye on it and let you know.
What Temerature are you keeping your building at?
I keep mine around the 60F and I get those same Temps at Full power.


@Japarker4 what will the low power mode temperature come up to?
I keep my building at 60 as well. I dried the first load at full power and it ran at 156-158 deg for three days. I'm not sure what low power mode is going to get to or how long it will take to get there. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: japarker4 on November 27, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
I didn't know what to expect, but it seems to be ramping up. The graph shows it ran at 100 deg the first day, day two it ramped up to 130. A LOT more water was dumped today than yesterday (which makes sense). I'm not sure if it will continue to ramp up to 160 eventually, or if it levels out at a lower temp? I'll certainly keep an eye on it and let you know.
What Temerature are you keeping your building at?
I keep mine around the 60F and I get those same Temps at Full power.


@Japarker4 what will the low power mode temperature come up to?
Usually between 130F and 140F, but it does depend a bit on ambient temperature in the building and how wet your wood is.  
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 27, 2019, 10:23:53 PM
Day three on a very wet load. Yes, as Jim said, it's leveled out at 135 deg. A lot of water is draining every 24 hrs. My plan is to let it cook for 8 days, then check it.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Stephen1 on November 28, 2019, 07:52:59 AM
All my loads are that wet, I pull them off the mill and put them in on full power. It will be interesting to see what happens to a load on low power. I do notice that I do not  seal the ends if it is going right in the kiln. If I have to leave it to air dry as it waits for the kiln it will start to check and crack , so I will start to seal ends going forward
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on November 28, 2019, 08:40:54 AM
I had some large oak mantels and 12/4 slabs in this load, that's why I'm trying it at low power. There's a mixture of ash and green poplar in this load as well, so it will be interesting. I know It's not the best to mix such different species and thicknesses green, but I'll push the envelope and see how it goes.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Stephen1 on November 29, 2019, 08:08:00 AM
I have only had 1 load of 1 species. It was 4/4 EWP dried in 4 days. Every load has been a mixture of species and moisture. I like to keep a skid of cookies sawn to baffle, instead of using plywood. That way the kiln is full every time I push start. The drier wood will take on the moisture given off by the wetter wood. It means that the drier wood has to stay in longer, so maybe 10 days instead of 7 days. Same thing for the thicker slabs. They stay in longer. I will try to put them in on the bottom so I can fork off the  thinner wood, leaving the slabs in for another cycle.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on December 01, 2019, 08:54:24 AM
I have only had 1 load of 1 species. It was 4/4 EWP dried in 4 days. Every load has been a mixture of species and moisture. I like to keep a skid of cookies sawn to baffle, instead of using plywood. That way the kiln is full every time I push start. The drier wood will take on the moisture given off by the wetter wood. It means that the drier wood has to stay in longer, so maybe 10 days instead of 7 days. Same thing for the thicker slabs. They stay in longer. I will try to put them in on the bottom so I can fork off the  thinner wood, leaving the slabs in for another cycle.
Thanks, I'll do that. 
On another note, I've been trying to use a catch pan with a hose attached to run to a drain for the kiln drain water to allow for the air gap. It worked on the first dry load, there wasn't as much water in it, but it overflowed on this wet load. I have a couple of 90s and about 25' to get to my drain. So yesterday I piped the drain up solid with 1" pvc and installed a vent pipe to work as the air gap, worked great. Just an FYI
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: Stephen1 on December 01, 2019, 09:48:22 AM
Originally I had plumbed mine in with 1" but with the connectors it reduced it to 3/4" so I had troubles.
Now I have a pan under the kiln drain with a sensored pump, when the water comes in it pumps it up and over the drain, I also have the dehumidifier draining into the same pan. What I have found is the water can be very "sticky" I'm guessing from the pine. It seized up the float sensor after 6 months. I soaked it in varsol to clean it up. 
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boardmaker on December 02, 2019, 10:36:24 AM
Boonesyard,

I really like the interface.  It's very simple and detailed.  I use quite a few of another brand at my day job but I like the look of that one.  Could you get me the manufacturer?  I have been using Automation Direct Cmore's and they are simple and great but there are times that I need more detail.  Thanks.
Title: Re: New iDRY
Post by: boonesyard on December 04, 2019, 10:05:02 AM
Here is the drain and vent configuration as discussed. It's been working flawlessly. (http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49257/image001~9.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1575471865)