Anybody know price for white pine logs in central New Hampshire these days?

[thecfarm]

I have rocky ground here too. And it was farmed. 
Have to remember the grass was cut by hand, now with a machine 20 feet wide.
They only needed a little bit of hay too. Enough to feed a few cows and horses. 
I have stone walls way out in the woods and big rocks 10 feet from the wall.

[Southside]

Funny how all threads on the FF end up talking about food, unless Ray gets involved, then they talk about rocks. 

[peakbagger]

Its pretty obvious in my area of northern NH where people tried to farm, they just picked the biggest boulder they could not move and started piling rocks and eventually it turned into a wall that they could use to hold animals. My lot is steep on the side of a valley. there is evidence that someone farmed for rocks as I have found a few split boulders with drill marks where he split went bad. In most cases the farmer followed the river valleys and farmed the floodplains and kept the steep hills to either sides for woodlots and maple syrup operations. Around the civil war there was a incredible demand for wood and wool so many of the hillsides got stripped for wood to go to southern New England and the land was used to sheep pastures. The farms north of the Notches in NH tend to be in the valleys and the wood was cut a bit later in the cycle. 

[ehp]

I wish I could buy white pine standing for $300 a thousand , I pay way way more than that for it 

[barbender]

 I actually don't know what standing white pine is going for here in northern MN right now. Red pine saw timber is up in the $100-$200/1000 range depending on how far it is from the mill, white pine would be the same or slightly less I suppose.

 I'm picturing Ray visiting the local mental health therapist, reclined in the patient couch as the therapist says to him, "so Ray, tell me more about your rocks."😁

 

[SonOfEru]

Is blue stain the same as spalting, which I am familiar with?  What I don't know is how long I might have before it gets going to a degree that would damage its value.

Advice?

I have one guy who has said he would want them but has to see them first.  I just wonder how much I should bug him to come

And finally, does anyone know why any attempt to post a picture ends up upside down?  This photo has been added several times, half the time I had it flipped in a photo editor app.  I wanted to show how big a pile I ended up with.  

The biggest is 40" at the butt

 

 

[dairyguy]

Is blue stain the same as spalting, which I am familiar with?  What I don't know is how long I might have before it gets going to a degree that would damage its value.

Advice?

I have one guy who has said he would want them but has to see them first.  I just wonder how much I should bug him to come

And finally, does anyone know why any attempt to post a picture ends up upside down?  This photo has been added several times, half the time I had it flipped in a photo editor app.  I wanted to show how big a pile I ended up with.  

The biggest is 40" at the butt


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Your computer is using a VPN based out of Australia where even the photos are upside down.    The real investigation is set up your internet with a VPN.

[KEC]

If I remember correctly, White Pine, much like Sugar Maple can stain fast as soon as it is cut. Try to move it ASAP. When I hauled logs in the 1970s I saw some nice pine that laid at the landing not very long, but too long.If there is someone interested who has a mill, possibly (others may have an opinion on this) you could agree on a price and get paid half when picked up, then the rest if it saws out well. The worst that could happen is you might have trouble collecting the balance. I would not drag my feet.

[Ron Scott]

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[SonOfEru]

dairyguy -

Where do you see VPN?  Does it show in ipconfig? And how do you see it?

[SonOfEru]

And Ron Scott - stumpage price is for standing timber, nespah?  These are ready to load and go to a mill.  

But I do recognize mine are not even a full truckload, and there's the question of metal.

The decision to cut them was made for safety reasons alone.  But having worked in the woods for 50 years [firewood not logging] and having a passing understanding that logs have money value, and knowing there are mills around here, I've just hoped to save some money off the cost of the cutting.

I still have my hope, but I wouldn't be surprised if I have to pay someone to take them away.  The tree company took $400 off the cost when I said I wanted the logs to sell them.  Maybe I'll lose even more than that.

There's a song from my youth - "You Can't Always Get What You Want".  Always liked that song, though it was the only Stones song that I did.

[Southside]

Due to  your latitude it took longer for your pictures to rotate in the correct position, they look fine now. 

[Roundhouse]

I tend to be picky but I would also have set them on some sort of stringers or even branches to keep them off the ground. I understand it isn't intended that they be here long enough for that to cause them to degrade. However it does make a difference in keeping the bark clean for longer blade life especially if you get a gully-washer in the meantime. Also depending on who takes them and what sort of equipment is available it can be easier to pick them up with a spacer.

[barbender]

 I wouldn't expect them to be on stringers, loggers don't do that for the most part. 

 White pine blue stains pretty quickly once the conditions are right. It doesn't really hurt the wood, but it is a "stain". If the guy that is interested in them wants them to be white, he needs to get moving on them right away. 

 Honestly, I'd put an ad on FB marketplace or Craigslist if it was me. For a small sawmill, it might be just the logs they are looking for. I would price them somewhat relative to what mills are paying for delivered white pine logs in your area. If the mill is paying $400/1000, I'd probably try to get $300-$350 where they are, they are decked up well. See where it leads, it may be just what someone is looking for. Or it may be that it at least opens a conversation with someone that is only willing to pay half the going rate because they would have to haul a skid steer over to load them. 

[47sawdust]

That is a hard sell.I paid $250.00 to have a tree service bring a load of pine from a neighbor's job they were doing.It was less than 1/2 loaded mile.None of the logs was as big as the 41'' which was fine for me.I live in central Vermont.I have found that there is no such thing as free logs.

[Roundhouse]

I wouldn't expect them to be on stringers, loggers don't do that for the most part.

Oh no doubt. I did fess up to being picky and that was my 2 cents on this "special situation" where he's likely to be dealing with a small-timer like me. Every little bit helps in making the logs attractive to a potential buyer. If someone is already used to buying logs from loggers they are likely to be a larger operation, debarker equipped etc.
If the offers are slow in coming it may be worth slapping a coat of paint on the ends.

[customsawyer]

I would not want to buy the logs if you paint the ends to where I can't read the grain. Unless you have enough extra length that it can be trimmed off and still make the lengths needed.

[240b]

If i remember blue stain starts a 80F.   Those logs look like they got weevil damage 
repeatedly. But its not as obvious due to the diameter. I also think you'd be doing well just to get them hauled away due to the small volume an other obstacles. Log truck here in central VT is 150/hr. 

[peakbagger]

No big white pine on the ground for me. The tree firm came and did a nice job on a Red Oak leaning over a road that was of secondary importance, but the choker rope they use to go around the pine tree for the climbers harness was too short for the diameter of the white pine even if they went 30' up with an extension ladder. There is minimal taper for the first 40 or 50 feet. So they need to order a longer choker (may not be the right name) and return. Meanwhile two red oak logs for a friends mill. Its the only red oak bigger than 4" on 83 acres. I think the butt log is 16"  

[chet]

Seems strange that the climber didn't make a temporary flipline long enough for the climb out of the tail of his climbing line.