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Title: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: metalspinner on November 10, 2021, 09:47:08 PM
I have been looking for over 15 years for an antique cider mill that I could restore. These things are either complete basket cases or fully restored. Last year about this time I found a complete basket case and got it for cheap. 

This is a Keystone Manufacturing "The Champion" cider mill. Made in Sterling, Illinois. Patented date 1874. It was a mess and had no woodwork with it. You can see here how rusted it was. 


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After a good, long soaking in rust remover, the parts came out bright and shiny. Then I hit them with primer and gloss black paint.


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I was able to find an old advertisement drawing from which I created the plans for the woodwork. 

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I used white oak throughout with traditional mortise and tenon, and dovetail joinery.


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The iron part were complete, but one piece needed to be remade. The chopping wheel inside the hopper was just too far gone, so my buddy machined and welded up a new one out of stainless steel.


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Here are a few detail pics from around the press...


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The first apples will go through it this weekend! 8) 8)It's going head-to-head with my original, homebuilt press. I'm pretty sure this one will drop a smackdown on my other one, though. :D

Oh, and I asked my son to sketch a drawing for a t-shirt to celebrate the occasion...


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Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Dan_Shade on November 10, 2021, 10:45:46 PM
Awesome

Don't use it in your kitchen (don't ask me how I know)... 
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Tacotodd on November 11, 2021, 12:10:21 AM
👍
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: SwampDonkey on November 11, 2021, 02:32:57 AM
That's an awesome job, congratulations on the restore. Now for some good old fashioned cider, hard cider. :D
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Walnut Beast on November 11, 2021, 02:55:11 AM
Very cool for sure 👍👍
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: thecfarm on November 11, 2021, 05:21:50 AM
A very nice job you did!!
That shirt looks good too.
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Jeff on November 11, 2021, 06:01:53 AM
That's top notch there!
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Don P on November 11, 2021, 06:30:03 AM
I put the one at the farm museum away this week after their annual apple butter making and cider squeeze. It could use your frame building skills, it's getting tired. That is a nice restoration, good to see one put back in working condition.
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: metalspinner on November 11, 2021, 08:40:24 AM
Here's a walk around video if you want a closer look...

https://youtu.be/9knNYy2-PXg (https://youtu.be/9knNYy2-PXg)
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: metalspinner on November 11, 2021, 12:18:14 PM
@DonP
What kind of event do they have at the museum? I wouldn't mind hearing about it. 
What kind of press is it?
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: florida on November 11, 2021, 01:38:32 PM
Awesome restoration! You did a great job and will no doubt have lots of fun pressing apples.
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Don P on November 11, 2021, 04:35:08 PM
It might be on their facebook, Matthews Living History Farm Museum, it would be 2 or 3 events back. They did that along with a quilt show and fiber arts, broom making, etc. I'll try to get some pics of theirs. There's a retired gentleman that's been coming around visiting, I think if we keep him in wood and costs he might go through the old equipment a project at a time.

There was a house we reroofed last year, it's an old century farm, there were 2 cider mills under the porch. They still get used by the grandkids occasionally. Uhh yeah, i asked  :D
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: metalspinner on November 14, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
We gave this new mill a workout this weekend. Ended up with 22 gallons of cider.

Making apple cider with Keystone Champion - YouTube (https://youtu.be/r9-KxhgfON4)

Interestingly, this mill didn't produce as much cider per bushel as my homemade mill. The pumice it makes is courser, so not as much juice could be squeezed. The homemade mill grinds the apple into a finer pumice allowing for better extraction.

The Keystone mill, is, however, easier to operate for longer periods. It has much more torque and with its 2-stage apple processing (chopping then grinding), getting through the apples quick.

It was lots of fun, though, to see and hear the gears doing their thing. The sound has a nice rhythm to it. 
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Stephen1 on November 14, 2021, 07:49:52 PM
That is a great restoration!
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Dan_Shade on November 14, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
I've wondered how well a meat grinder would work for making cider.. 
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: mike_belben on November 14, 2021, 09:44:41 PM
I bet a grinder then thru a juicer would do the trick. 


Beautiful work
Title: Re: Another Cider Mill?!?
Post by: Paul_H on November 14, 2021, 10:13:57 PM
Fantastic job and another treasure from the past saved from destruction.