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Re: Need a new generator.
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2021, 08:50:33 PM »
That should be a winner!!!

For us, all of our power is on and all of our generators are parked in their garage.  :)
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2021, 10:58:10 PM »
Wow. Some serious power in some of the options people are using here. I tend to go small, since we're really just trying to survive and protect things from damage during an extended outage here. I'll admit that going small is easier when you don't have to worry about firing up air conditioning.

We got by for years with a little Generac 4000EXL (4 KW continuous / 6 KW surge). It took some load management, but it really sipped fuel. Our house is wired for the generator to back feed the whole panel when the interlocking switch is thrown. I'd switch all the breakers off, then power up only what was absolutely needed. I'd leave the well pump turned off, since powering up that 240 V pump in a 400 foot deep well took a lot of surge capacity. When the tank pressure dropped, I'd switch off the fridge and freezer before powering up the well pump to re-pressurize. If someone was taking a shower, I'd leave things that way until they were done. I added a propane conversion kit which allowed the generator to run on either gasoline or connect to our 500 gallon propane tank.

That little Generac got zapped by lightning when we were building a tree house (Fortunately, we had left the treehouse as the storm was rolling in. We did not think to unplug the extension cord that was running from the generator on the ground up to the tree house. That cord became the preferred path to ground.) It was replaced by a Honda EM6500 (5500 watts continuous / 6500 surge). I have a propane conversion kit for this generator as well, but have not installed it yet.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2021, 11:41:46 PM »
Absolutely Southside your not playing around 👍

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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2021, 03:10:35 AM »
I said what you could afford, not a whole power plant. :D :D :D
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2021, 11:06:15 AM »
If you have access to a tractor with a 1000 RPM PTO, a PTO driven unit is the best option.  You can get a 60Kv unit relatively cheap and it can sit there unused for years.  We had a horrendous ice storm back in 1979.  We were a major hog operation at the time.  A 100 horse Deutz sat there pulling a 60 Kv unit for 27 days.  It would pull it just off idle and sipped fuel.

I have a 17.5 Kv Generac (propane) standby here at the house.  It is great for those short term outages to keep the wife happy, but I can't afford to feed it for the longer term.  We just came out of a 9 day outage from the last (2) ice storms.  My main tank was getting low prior to the ice storm and I ran out of propane a couple of days in.  I'm still waiting on my delivery.  I keep a hundred pound cylinder on hand for back-up use and used that for my propane logs.  I have a 6700 Watt unit that I bought from Northern after Hurricane Dennis in 1999.  She screamed 24 hours a day for a week and kept the TV, Internet, Cell Phone Booster, refrigerators, well pump, blower on the outdoor wood stove, and a CPAP powered.  @Southside - I borrowed the fuel tank out of the boat)  I plumbed a propane powered camping shower into the hot water line for the house and was able to take a hot bath / shower.  I worked my butt off, but maintained a warm and happy wife.  I certainly felt sorry for the folks that didn't have the equipment to stay warm.  Foresight and redneck ingenuity definitely served me well.

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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2021, 01:06:48 PM »
Our place has a full transfer switch over to a Kubota genset.  It's nice when the lights go out, which happens yearly, and usually for a few days when it does.  It's not an automatic switch, we like the genset warming up before a load, but it's nice to be able to throw the switch, and have power to the all buildings, and the well.  Besides diesel, I think the only other generator for standby power for me would be an LP, or CNG; I get tired of having to deal with too many small gasoline engines, and gas going bad.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2021, 03:40:15 PM »
I bought this last week, need to go get it this week. 35KW, single and three phase, 3 cyl JD diesel with 600 hours on it.

Not playing around again.


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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2021, 07:46:14 PM »
Plan to go Wednesday. Calves keep showing up...
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2021, 12:32:31 AM »
I have a Homelite 3500 (3000) that will run my heat (oil furnace w/soft start blower), water pump (shallow well), fridge and freezer and some lights and computer. I run things on heavy (12g) extension cords. I put plugs on the lines to the furnace and pump, so I just unplug from the grid and plug into extension cords, isolated from the grid and no expensive power transfer switch.

Today, I just purchased an old Homelite 4000 (3600) that hasn't been run in about three years. I have yet to service it and get it running. It came in an enclosed box that opens up on both sides and the top and is built on snowmobile skis with a tow bar. This one has an 8HP B&S w/cast iron cylinder sleeve or cylinder. I figure it's about later '80's.
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2021, 08:37:11 AM »
I'd love to have a big diesel generator like that, but our power has become a lot more reliable in the last 5 years.  It used to go out with every storm and would be out for 6 or 8 hours.  We have had several ice storms and a tornado that had our power out for 6-8 days.  That potential is still there.  I used to have a 7700 watt generac that did pretty well, but about 4 years ago I came across a guy selling a 17,500 generac gas generator.  I bought it for $1500 which was less than half of new and sold my old one for 500.  It does all we need.
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2021, 09:28:59 AM »
We are lucky here also. We have lived on this farm 18 years and have only loss power a couple times for a few hours. Everything in this area it under ground. One of my other farms over in another county were we lived for 20 years we would lose power for days over there winter and summer. Then updated the lines in that area and they hardly lose power now. I do have a 10,000 Watt gen just in case. A  buddy about 100 miles away loss power two summer ago for a couple weeks so I hauled it down to him and he put some hours on it then. I run it a couple times a year to make sure its ready if needed. I do have disconnect at the meter to just plug it in there and run power to the farm. 

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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2021, 07:08:50 PM »
Jim (Southside) came down to the Raleigh area today to pick up his new generator, and he kindly agreed to meet me for lunch.

What a cool guy!  We had lunch at Angies, a well known grill in Garner, NC, and he proceeded to regale me with stories about his farm in VA, and life with lots of critters.

After lunch I showed him the way to Duke Power's recycling center, where we both admired his new generator.  We also took the time to look over some of their other goodies for sale.

In the pic below Jim is holding some type of surplus flanged piece from a nuclear power plant. It was never installed, and get this - that darn flanged pipe (and 5 other just like it) was bought by Duke Power for something like $86,000 new - EACH  :o :o :o.  I'm not sure if it was made from titanium or stainless, but wow...

Jim, it was great to meet you today.  Thanks much for setting aside some time to meet with a fellow FF member.  I hope that your trip home went smoothly.  Best of success to you getting the generator wired up.

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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2021, 07:24:46 PM »
Thanks for sharing. That was pretty cool you guys had some good conversation and lunch 👍

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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2021, 07:34:59 PM »
Yup, had an awesome time. Too short, great food and wonderful company. Definitely a place to eat if you are any place close. 

Did a little extra shipping after Scott left, might have gone a little crazy, bought two crates full of fire extinguishers for hardly a penny on the dollar. Still in service, complete with tags, figured where I have one hanging now I may as well have a few, and I can hang a couple in every field we farm in case of a wildfire!! The photos don't show them all but you get the idea. In my defense, the place we went to is sort of a Sam's Club for electrical stuff, it's all in bulk!!



 

 

 
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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2021, 09:16:45 AM »
Sure glad one didn't dis-charge on you on the way home. Had a big coal mine one go off in a chevy service van in the winter, long time ago :o >:( .Not a pleasant experience .(Post caused some flash backs :) )

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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2021, 12:39:14 PM »
About 3 months ago I went and picked up the 9000/7500W (I think) Predator, with similar Harbor Freight concerns. The unit appears nicer/more finished than a lot of HF stuff. I spent about $1k for it, a beefy plug to go into the wall to the breaker, and a wheel assembly to roll it around. I haven't needed it for anything yet so the verdict is still out there but it seems nice and should run most of my house, if needed.
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2021, 03:13:22 AM »
About 3 months ago I went and picked up the 9000/7500W (I think) Predator, with similar Harbor Freight concerns. The unit appears nicer/more finished than a lot of HF stuff. I spent about $1k for it, a beefy plug to go into the wall to the breaker, and a wheel assembly to roll it around. I haven't needed it for anything yet so the verdict is still out there but it seems nice and should run most of my house, if needed.
Would you recommend it after this time? Trying to figure out what is better for my house, gas, or fuel generator, choosing from this review, probably.

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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2021, 03:36:27 PM »
The ultimate system is a ng (if available) or propane unit with an automatic transfer switch, if the power goes off during a storm or when nobody is home nothing to worry about. It is also the most expensive. A gas or diesel drive portable will work with a manual transfer switch but is less than convenient. @Wudman suggested a pto drive but now the tractor is tied up and needs to be frequently refueled, not ideal in a driving rain storm.
Whatever you choose have a proper transfer switch installed so that both sources CANNOT be supplying power at the same time per the NEC. You don't want to burn the house down or electrocute a lineman!
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2021, 07:05:27 PM »
I can't say for sure @FairFrank, I fire it up, as suggested in the manual, every 3 months or so to keep the fuel moving through, but I haven't plugged a thing into it yet. It does fire right up every time I've done that. I'm just following the manuals instructions, fire it up occasionally and add Stabil to beat the ethanol. 

I think, if it matters, a few days after I bought the Predator, I saw one at Menard's that I think was a better name brand for comparible money, everything is mostly Chinese nowadays anyway, I don't know if it makes a difference. I'd like to get a 220v welder and try it out with that, but it doesn't seem to be in the cards quite yet. 
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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2021, 07:26:26 PM »
 We have the same 9500(surge) HF unit and after 2 years I would definitely recommend it. We lose power regularly and run it 9 days straight after a hurricane last year. I crank it once a month for 30 minutes if we dont use it that month and havent had any issues.
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