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Re: Firewood sales.
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2015, 12:29:52 PM »
Checkout the link to the PDF in my post. This is a report from the USDA  "Fuel Value Calculator " there is also a link to a spreadsheet at the top.  here is the link again: http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/techline/fuel-value-calculator.pdf

They use "Seasoned firewood 15.3 million Btu/cord " (this is 20million BTUs X.77 for woodstove efficiency) compared to # 2 heating oil. If you go to the matrix on page 3 of the pdf and look along the line for seasoned firewood @ 20% moisture content $200 per cord  and then read along the line till you get to #2 heating oil it says $1.49 per gallon  They make assumptions about efficiency of the furnaces and such but I think that it is one of the better comparisons I have found.
 The price per million BTUs for this example is $13 for both wood and fuel oil (left column on page 3)
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 12:46:44 PM »
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Pound for pound, most woods are nearly the same in BTU's.. hardwood or softwood.
Just that the volume varies to get the same weights, and moisture content has an effect on the calculations.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2015, 05:32:03 PM »
We never got to technical there always seemed to be a figure like oil above $2 gallon wood was cheaper. Never understood these guys that bought wood tree length hired some one to saw and put it in. Factor in labor oil would have to be $4 gallon!!!! Can't get over price variation I have seen dry wood go for $300 and saw split $180 a cord>





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Checkout the link to the PDF in my post. This is a report from the USDA  "Fuel Value Calculator " there is also a link to a spreadsheet at the top.  here is the link again: http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/techline/fuel-value-calculator.pdf

They use "Seasoned firewood 15.3 million Btu/cord " (this is 20million BTUs X.77 for woodstove efficiency) compared to # 2 heating oil. If you go to the matrix on page 3 of the pdf and look along the line for seasoned firewood @ 20% moisture content $200 per cord  and then read along the line till you get to #2 heating oil it says $1.49 per gallon  They make assumptions about efficiency of the furnaces and such but I think that it is one of the better comparisons I have found.
 The price per million BTUs for this example is $13 for both wood and fuel oil (left column on page 3)
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2015, 11:28:13 AM »
Phone stopped ringing for wood at my place (mostly green).  I did the Craigslist add without much luck, guess we'll just put the rest of the log length stuff into wood to dry.  When it was busy it was real busy, but it sure did die out quick!
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2015, 02:00:52 PM »
The Saudis can't keep this up forever.  Their budget for next year has been slashed and the budget deficit for them this year is a record and only the second or third time they've ever had a deficit.  This is their last gasp as the price setters for world oil prices.
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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2015, 02:40:12 PM »
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The Saudis can't keep this up forever.
The thing to remember is that the Saudis are the low cost producer by a large margin. If their cost of producing one more barrel of oil is $10 then their competitors cost is $40. At $36 they are making money on each barrel produced and oil sands and shale oil are losing money. If the Saudis cut the price and demand responds they can cover their budget by selling more. If a well is losing money the working interest owners have to cut a check every month to cover cost of production. After a while they cap the well and it is not that easy to reopen a well; the equipment deteriorates. 
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