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What are new blades good for?
« on: April 01, 2022, 06:03:46 PM »
Finding metal, 🙈 took out 3 brand new turbo 7ís today. Found some fence staples about 3Ē deep in a log. We cut the end with the staples off, then rolled it and sure enough, the second cut on that face hit a staple too. That log got ejected. Had high hopes that would be the end of the the metal for the day, but nope. One more log had a staple in it also and it got ejected after one strike. 
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2022, 07:39:33 PM »
That sounds like my luck.
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2022, 09:17:39 PM »
At least tramp metal is someone else's fault. Wednesday I put a brand new blade on and five minutes later I let a 2x slip past the dragback and it pushed the band off. Made a real mess.
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2022, 10:42:46 PM »
Ouch, I havenít done that one yet, but Iím sure I will 
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2022, 11:24:07 PM »
I'd get it out of the way tomorrow. That way you won't have to worry about it sneaking up on you. :)
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2022, 11:34:39 AM »
Lol, Iíll pass. Iíll wait until I can do it with a audience 😂
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2022, 12:58:41 PM »
 Better to hit junk in the log, than to take a bite out of the log dogs on the mill.  I think Iím up to 5 or 6 blades, and itís often right after putting on a fresh blade.  On the HM126, the dogs are on the opposite side of the track from the operating side so the log hides the dogs.   Sometimes I get going and forget to check, and, oh thatís a very bad sound hitting metal.  

I have only hit steel in a log one time so far.   Hit a bullet once but that got sliced in half without any issue.  
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2022, 02:33:17 PM »
Joe Maine's Silver Tip Turbo 7 don't cut metal worth a darn.  I had maybe 30m on the blade, first time hitting the mill, glad to get that out of the way.  🤦🏻






 


 

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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2022, 03:43:44 PM »
 Does that mess up the blade?

Donít you like it when a customer asks that?   :laugh:
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2022, 04:07:01 PM »
Caveman made some knife blades and into some really nice knives that he gave for some awards. Maybe he could post another picture 

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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2022, 04:08:59 PM »
wow those bands are smoked!  I've hit a lot of nails but never done that!!!
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2022, 05:14:46 PM »
I was mowing along pretty good. 1.3 cuts away from turning a log into 35 pieces of 3x3Ē dunnageÖ slow is smooth, or something.

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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2022, 10:06:17 PM »
My clamp has a mark similar to that! I was holding an odd shaped, oversized maple when I made a blade that was safe for practicing folding and unfolding. 

Yes TT, thatís a frustrating question after it is made clear before we start that metal strikes ruin blades. 
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2022, 11:33:20 PM »
I am going to have to disagree here. Joes T7, Silvertip,  1.75" bands will put a very nice, deep, cut into the clamp when being driven by a 55 HP turbo diesel, or so I have been told. Cough, cough..... :D 

Probably the worst one I ever had was a brand new, out of the box, band that cut maybe 6" into a White Oak and hit something like 5 pieces of wire and a couple of staples.  I tried to dig the garbage out then was so disgusted grabbed the Husky 372XP log shortener and removed about 4' off that log.  Put on another brand new band - instantly hit metal again.  That log went into the burn pile after that.  
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2022, 05:45:05 AM »
I havenít tried 1.75Ē blades.  The guy I bought the LT70 from ram 1.25Ē blades for reasons unknown.

That 1.5Ē got through the chrome layer of the clamp pretty good, did 1.75Ē make it to the cylinderís rod?😳😂

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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2022, 06:51:06 AM »
A blade like Lumberjack's takes all the stress out of deciding what to do with it.
It is those blades that you think you can save that  really cost you time and money.
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2022, 10:44:42 AM »
I donít have my grinder yet, but at this point , if it hits metal, it goes in a special pile that will eventually get sold by the pound at a scrap yard. 
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2022, 10:25:06 AM »
Oh my!  That's horrible!  I work very hard to avoid the clamp cylinder after running the guard under the band guide wheel into it at WM back in '16 when the mill was new.  Tweaked the guard something fierce but we fixed it...Now I look constantly!  Also, when I'm walking beside the mill (since I'm a walker - as in no remote or stationary control) I reach down and feel the clamp to make sure it's a half inch below the last cut once the CANT is made and short enough to not flip sideways on me (ask me how I know that can happen)...too me a few hundred hours or more to work that out :P

I'm assuming you didn't have to replace the cyl?

I hit some big monster nails in a job in May up north...right in the center of an 18" pine...must have been there 50 years or more!  Sheesh...and I'd already wiped out a new band on the first face!  Grrr....it does always seem to be a NEW band when it happens too  :o :snowball:
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2022, 08:55:44 PM »
Better to hit junk in the log, than to take a bite out of the log dogs on the mill.  I think Iím up to 5 or 6 blades, and itís often right after putting on a fresh blade.  On the HM126, the dogs are on the opposite side of the track from the operating side so the log hides the dogs.   Sometimes I get going and forget to check, and, oh thatís a very bad sound hitting metal.  

I have only hit steel in a log one time so far.   Hit a bullet once but that got sliced in half without any issue.  
Someone on here swapped the metal dogs for ones they made out of hickory I believe.  If you hit it it's not the end of the world, but you'll notice you're cutting something harder.   I plan to make a few some day and try them out. 
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Re: What are new blades good for?
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2022, 09:28:13 PM »
A bunch of amateurs sawing soft steel. :D

Get it really cranked up and hit a ceramic insulator full bore.  Second are an increment borer some forester broke off in a tree, and third is a log full of concrete with rebar that the homeowner put in a hollow spot in the tree.

By far the ceramic insulator's are the winners at taking out a band.
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