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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2021, 12:51:59 PM »
Guys, we need some links to the products that you are mentioning.  :P
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« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2021, 01:18:42 PM »
This looks like an interesting options:

The Equipment Lock GPS Tracker | The Equipment Lock Company

Going to do some more research, but 60 to by 120 a year for subscription seems reasonable to protect the cost of a sawmill, tractor, or etc.

Their product only has three reviews on amazon as it seems new, but their other products on amazon look like they review pretty well.  I emailed them for more details on subscription, battery life and etc.  Will pass along if it looks promising.

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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2021, 05:07:55 PM »
Digging on the web page it says 4 year battery life (depending on "things")

I see it only phones home twice a day, that will be how they stretch out the battery life. 

Problem I can see with those trackers is that GPS needs to be able to "see" the sky. If it's hidden in a metal box or mill frame it will neither get a GPS lock, or be able to phone home. When machinery has the GPS built in then it can be integrated into the Engine ECU box or similar, and an antenna hidden in the wiring loom making it very difficult to disable. 

On a car a box like that can be hidden behind a plastic bumper and still work, so that might give some mounting / disguise ideas?  
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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2021, 09:58:19 PM »
lt 30 and lt40 have an open tube at the top of the mast which would be hard to detect yet have a wide open view of the sky.
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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2021, 09:02:31 AM »
This looks like an interesting options:

The Equipment Lock GPS Tracker | The Equipment Lock Company

Going to do some more research, but 60 to by 120 a year for subscription seems reasonable to protect the cost of a sawmill, tractor, or etc.

Their product only has three reviews on amazon as it seems new, but their other products on amazon look like they review pretty well.  I emailed them for more details on subscription, battery life and etc.  Will pass along if it looks promising.
Here is the response I received on a couple questions I emailed:

Do you need a subscription for each unit or can you track multiple units with one? 

-Each unit tracks 1-item.  You can move a single unit around to multiple pieces of equipment and update its asset details in the software.
-If you have multiple units, you will need a subscription for each unit.
-There are two pricing options for the subscriptions,  an annual and a monthly.
 

Also like to know more regarding the batter life. Is t battery replaceable after 4 years or do you have to replace the units?

-The battery life is based on a 2-report per day expectancy.  The device reports at 8 AM and 4 PM local time.  (This is not a real-time tracking device)
-The battery is non-replaceable as it is potted to ensure a water-tight and all environment-friendly tracker. 
-After the battery has expired, the unit will need to be replaced.

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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2021, 02:37:22 PM »
GPS is awesome but it also comes with a monthly payment unless you use open source.  After talking to some police/troopers around here $50 GPS signal identifiers are pretty normal for thieves.  They use them to locate and remove the device or destroy or jam it with other means. 

I thought long and hard about this,  I'm going to get a wheel spacer and some special lug nuts.  That way I can take the wheel off put the spacer on and then thread on these lugs nuts.  The wheel spacer will be recessed so you cant use a pipe wrench to take the lug nuts off.  I think this will work well when you're at a remote site, when the mill is back home maybe the same practice but behind locked doors.

I suppose this could be defeated but it wouldn't be easy.  Just thinking.


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« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2021, 02:37:47 PM »
So if I am a smart thief then I call these tracking companies, learn these details, assume anything I steal is tagged, and work around their details.  Only steal after 4:00 PM and make sure anything that can't be inspected has gone through a crusher before 8:00 AM.  
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« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2021, 02:42:51 PM »
Maybe a pressure switch activated glue / glitter / dye device that goes off if the pressure on the front tongue jack is released.  Basically the thief and the back of their vehicle gets coated in the same dye used in bank robbery packs. 

They are going to run after that happens, and you have a decent chance of finding out who it is after the fact.  
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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2021, 03:42:39 PM »
Southside,
  With my memory, I would become the most proficient tester of my anti-theft device...

I can picture half the guys here driving down the road with their car and themselves sparkling away.

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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2021, 07:32:12 AM »
I Got a phone call saying someone thought they seen it on I 75 headed north into Knoxville  Tenn that fit the time frame mine was stolen. If anyone is around that area keep an eye out.

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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2021, 08:50:52 AM »
I think an apple airtag could be a good solution now that i've read more. Not cell based GPS but bluetooth (longer lasting) and sends off other phones/devices.  If they got near the mill with the find my iphone function or camera enabled it would ping (you'd know who was around the mill and when).  If they disabled they could not find the airtag (very small).  Going down the road and at rest stops/restaurants it would be pinging away.  Think i will get a pack to try them out.
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« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2021, 12:23:42 PM »
I think an apple airtag could be a good solution now that i've read more. Not cell based GPS but bluetooth (longer lasting) and sends off other phones/devices.  If they got near the mill with the find my iphone function or camera enabled it would ping (you'd know who was around the mill and when).  If they disabled they could not find the airtag (very small).  Going down the road and at rest stops/restaurants it would be pinging away.  Think i will get a pack to try them out.
Be very interested to see how these work out, keep us posted!

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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2021, 06:38:03 AM »
You can also drop your outriggers and put a lock thru the holes . I know this might only slow a good theft down, but he would not be able to back up hook up and take off.
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2021, 07:39:40 AM »
Bruce29,
Thatís my neighborhood! Iíll keep an eye out. I notice things like mills and trailers full of logs or lumber. 😉

Assuming someone wants to keep the mill in tact for use, they might change the color. Are there a couple of quick identifying features one could recognize??
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« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2021, 09:59:46 AM »
If a crusher around here buys a sawmill painted up like that one. They would put it out by the highway for sale rather than crush it. Now on second hand if they stole my mill it looks like it has already been thru the crusher.

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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2021, 11:42:06 AM »
Its worth in scrap is extremely low compared to as a mill or in sawn lumber.  


Theres an ambutious get rich quick new miller out there sawing yard trees out behind the shed right now.  Booms do that.
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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2021, 11:50:53 AM »
Man that was a real beauty. I hope they hang for it.

 I will keep a close eye out for it in my neck of the woods.   LSN.com is a TN/AL/GA classified to watch too.  

Paging some folks in the region...

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I definitely keep my eyes open. Beautiful mill and hope it's found intact. 
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2021, 12:24:58 PM »
I hope some dipstick posts a photo about his new sawmill on faceplate and you catch up to them....  It's home built so they can't strip the parts, they either have to sell it, or use it to get any $$ for their work.. 

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« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2021, 12:28:28 PM »
Or the thief sells it to the poor sap who is trying to bust his butt and make a living. 
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« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2021, 10:55:36 PM »
Think most of these thieves just sell for scrap prices at scrap yards, after all, they are metal thieves.   the safest way to turn the stuff into cash.  What else they going to do, advertise their stolen goods?  My wife is working on a nice template, plan to paint my name on all my stuff.  At least if you see my name on the side of my trailer going up the highway, maybe you will write down the tag number of the truck pulling it.
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