I am looking for a shorter bar for my 880. I have a 47in and a 60in and would like something shorter for bucking medium sized logs. What size bar balances well on this power head?
28" - 32" b/c in .404 46RSF
I had a 36" bar on my 880 and it's a bit forward heavy. I agree 25"-32" will be the right balance.
Quote from: esteadle on April 13, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
I had a 36" bar on my 880 and it's a bit forward heavy. I agree 25"-32" will be the right balance.
Thank you for the reply. I will probably go with the shorter side of reccomendations.
Will an 880 running a 25" bar even know your cutting wood with it, or will it think its just being revved up ?
Quote from: DelawhereJoe on April 13, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
Will an 880 running a 25" bar even know your cutting wood with it, or will it think its just being revved up ?
Or another way to put it; Its like having a 500 ci Caddy motor in a S-10 pickup. :D
Quote from: DelawhereJoe on April 13, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
Will an 880 running a 25" bar even know your cutting wood with it, or will it think its just being revved up ?
Pretty sure it won't notice a 25in on it. It pulls a 47in pretty well. I have cut a few oaks that buried the bar and had to cut from the other side to finish the cut and it made short work of those.
Quote from: wild262 on April 13, 2018, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: DelawhereJoe on April 13, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
Will an 880 running a 25" bar even know your cutting wood with it, or will it think its just being revved up ?
Or another way to put it; Its like having a 500 ci Caddy motor in a S-10 pickup. :D
Sounds fun. I like overpowered equipment.
Today I was researching places to send the 880 in for special treatment but I think I'm going to get a 395 and have that done up and leave the 880 stock. I've always wanted a built up saw. I really don't need any more saws but I like them. I have a 450 rancher with 18in bar, a 455 rancher with 20in bar, ms 201tc with 14in and the ms 880 with a 47 and 60in. I'm thinking a hopped up 395 with a 36in bar could be fun. I have quite a few saws for a non professional guy who just likes to play with them. Funny thing is that my wife gets it but my dad doesn't. He thought my 455 rancher cut plenty fast enough until he saw the 880 demolishing large oak logs.
If you go 25" make sure to keep a .404 chain on it. My favorite is the Stihl 46RSF on 25" and longer on those big cube saws.
Have you looked into buying a ported 372xp ? It would easily replace your 455 and its not much heavier only a pound or 2 but alot more hp and ported its even more hp.
Quote from: DelawhereJoe on April 13, 2018, 10:36:46 PM
Have you looked into buying a ported 372xp ? It would easily replace your 455 and its not much heavier only a pound or 2 but alot more hp and ported its even more hp.
I have looked at them a little. I made a list of guys that do porting and other work and I was going to call around Monday and see what they had to say. I'll ask about the 372 as well. I have a friend that has a tree service and he runs all husky saws and I've borrowed his 395 a couple times and I always wanted one of my own. I really have no logical reasoning behind buying a 395
Quote from: HolmenTree on April 13, 2018, 10:36:31 PM
If you go 25" make sure to keep a .404 chain on it. My favorite is the Stihl 46RSF on 25" and longer on those big cube saws.
Will do. I have that chain on my 47in bar and have been really impressed with it.
Quote from: esteadle on April 13, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
I had a 36" bar on my 880 and it's a bit forward heavy. I agree 25"-32" will be the right balance.
I agree too. had the exact same setup.
With a 25" that thing is nasty. Once i had a 18" 3/8 B/C on my 066, that was fun too!(https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
Being as you have that 088, I would think a 372 or maybe the new version of it would fit right in and fill the gapin your line up, that 455 is no comparison at all to a 372, not even close to the same league in my opinion.
Quote from: Busybeaver on April 13, 2018, 10:15:05 PM
Sounds fun. I like overpowered equipment.
Today I was researching places to send the 880 in for special treatment but I think I'm going to get a 395 and have that done up and leave the 880 stock. I've always wanted a built up saw. I really don't need any more saws but I like them. I have a 450 rancher with 18in bar, a 455 rancher with 20in bar, ms 201tc with 14in and the ms 880 with a 47 and 60in. I'm thinking a hopped up 395 with a 36in bar could be fun. I have quite a few saws for a non professional guy who just likes to play with them. Funny thing is that my wife gets it but my dad doesn't. He thought my 455 rancher cut plenty fast enough until he saw the 880 demolishing large oak logs.
My hopped up 395 will pull a 60 in fir buried without the extra weight of the 090, 088, 3120, or Mac 125.
Quote from: teakwood on April 14, 2018, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: esteadle on April 13, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
I had a 36" bar on my 880 and it's a bit forward heavy. I agree 25"-32" will be the right balance.
I agree too. had the exact same setup.
With a 25" that thing is nasty. Once i had a 18" 3/8 B/C on my 066, that was fun too!(https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
I really want to throw a 25" or 28" on it . Not really practical but sounds like fun .
Quote from: starmac on April 14, 2018, 10:24:53 PM
Being as you have that 088, I would think a 372 or maybe the new version of it would fit right in and fill the gapin your line up, that 455 is no comparison at all to a 372, not even close to the same league in my opinion.
The 455 was my first saw. Not sure when I bought it but it must of been about 12 to 15 years ago now. I bought it to cut firewood to heat my old house. It has been a great, trouble free saw and it has cut a ton of firewood. I agree with you though that it is weak in comparison to the pro level saws. What is the new version of the 372? 372xpg ?
Quote from: Skeans1 on April 14, 2018, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: Busybeaver on April 13, 2018, 10:15:05 PM
Sounds fun. I like overpowered equipment.
Today I was researching places to send the 880 in for special treatment but I think I'm going to get a 395 and have that done up and leave the 880 stock. I've always wanted a built up saw. I really don't need any more saws but I like them. I have a 450 rancher with 18in bar, a 455 rancher with 20in bar, ms 201tc with 14in and the ms 880 with a 47 and 60in. I'm thinking a hopped up 395 with a 36in bar could be fun. I have quite a few saws for a non professional guy who just likes to play with them. Funny thing is that my wife gets it but my dad doesn't. He thought my 455 rancher cut plenty fast enough until he saw the 880 demolishing large oak logs.
My hopped up 395 will pull a 60 in fir buried without the extra weight of the 090, 088, 3120, or Mac 125.
I believe it. I have done a lot of reading on modded 395s and that seems to be what I've been seeing.
I want to say the new version coming out is 572, but others will know more than I. I think the XPG designation meant heated handles, I want to say the last 372 was extratorque or some such thing.
Quote from: starmac on April 14, 2018, 11:30:29 PM
I want to say the new version coming out is 572, but others will know more than I. I think the XPG designation meant heated handles, I want to say the last 372 was extratorque or some such thing.
Yes Starmac, You are correct. Husky 572 is newest 72cc class Husky coming out. The current X-Torq, has a bit more "low end" than the standard 1st edition 372. Guess that's why they call it X-Torq. The "G" stands for generator on the heated handle saws. Hopefully Husky will solve the main bearing issues with the X-Torq on the new 572's.
as you put shorter bars on the 880 you can start increasing the sprocket size. you have the horsepower to run in a higher gear. I have two saws that get sprocket changes with bar changes. I haven't run an 880 so I cant recommend a sprocket bar ratio for you.
Wicked Work Saws out of Tennessee does great custom porting work and sells new saws ported to your liking.
Easy to swap out different rim sprockets on the 088 inboard clutch drum.
With a 25" -28" .404 b/c a 8 tooth .404 rim would be perfect.
Not a common rim now a days. I have a couple of Oregon ones.
Quote from: wild262 on April 15, 2018, 03:26:43 AM
Quote from: starmac on April 14, 2018, 11:30:29 PM
I want to say the new version coming out is 572, but others will know more than I. I think the XPG designation meant heated handles, I want to say the last 372 was extratorque or some such thing.
Yes Starmac, You are correct. Husky 572 is newest 72cc class Husky coming out. The current X-Torq, has a bit more "low end" than the standard 1st edition 372. Guess that's why they call it X-Torq. The "G" stands for generator on the heated handle saws. Hopefully Husky will solve the main bearing issues with the X-Torq on the new 572's.
Yep the main bearings were a major concern for Husqvarna in their development of the 572XP. They actually over built it with those 2 huge main bearings. All they need to do now is put a larger piston/cylinder on to make the power to weight ratio competitive. :)
Quote from: Southside logger on April 15, 2018, 09:27:45 AM
Wicked Work Saws out of Tennessee does great custom porting work and sells new saws ported to your liking.
Called wicked work saws today and got a machine saying he broke his ankle and will be out of the shop for a few weeks. I'm in no hurry.
Quote from: HolmenTree on April 15, 2018, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: wild262 on April 15, 2018, 03:26:43 AM
Quote from: starmac on April 14, 2018, 11:30:29 PM
I want to say the new version coming out is 572, but others will know more than I. I think the XPG designation meant heated handles, I want to say the last 372 was extratorque or some such thing.
Yes Starmac, You are correct. Husky 572 is newest 72cc class Husky coming out. The current X-Torq, has a bit more "low end" than the standard 1st edition 372. Guess that's why they call it X-Torq. The "G" stands for generator on the heated handle saws. Hopefully Husky will solve the main bearing issues with the X-Torq on the new 572's.
Yep the main bearings were a major concern for Husqvarna in their development of the 572XP. They actually over built it with those 2 huge main bearings. All they need to do now is put a larger piston/cylinder on to make the power to weight ratio competitive. :)
Is it your opinion that the stihl is a better saw overall. I have had good luck with both and don't have a preference between those two. The only thing is that none of the local husky dealers will work with pricing. I saved around 500 when I bought my 880 and 201 together. Local husky places wouldn't budge a penny.
Quote from: Busybeaver on April 17, 2018, 08:13:38 PMLocal husky places wouldn't budge a penny.
another good reason to buy stihl! (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
Quote from: teakwood on April 17, 2018, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: Busybeaver on April 17, 2018, 08:13:38 PMLocal husky places wouldn't budge a penny.
another good reason to buy stihl! (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
That's the main reason I bought the 880 and 201. I tried to buy a 540 and 3120 from about 6 local dealers and not one would budge a penny . Then they all told me I would have to wait weeks for delivery of the 3120 and tried talking me into a 395 which they all had in stock. After calling every husky dealer in a 20 mile radius I decided to call a stihl dealer. More than 500 off retail , making it substantially less money that the 2 husky saws and they had my 880 by noon the next day.
Also I just have to add. I did have an issue with the 201. The second time I used it I noticed the pull cord was frayed and nearly severed about 4in from the handle. I called the dealer and they said they would take care of it and to drop it off whenever was convenient for me or just use it until it broke and bring it in then. I used it for a few weeks and had a few days when I knew I wasn't going to need it. I dropped it off and mentioned I don't get out that way often and it is about a 25 minute drive for me to get there. Two days later they had it fixed and brought it out to my house and told me if I have any issues with equipment I get from them just call and they would pick it up next time. They went way above and beyond any place I've dealt with in the past.
Busybeaver, that sounds like best service I ever heard of.
You must be in a small town 🙂
Quote from: HolmenTree on April 17, 2018, 10:28:20 PM
Busybeaver, that sounds like best service I ever heard of.
You must be in a small town 🙂
I live in what was a small town 15 years ago but has been growing very rapidly. We are on the outskirts of west mi largest city, grand rapids. The dealer is a John Deere dealer and is the closest Deere dealer to me. I have got parts for my little tractor from them in the past. They are a pretty good sized outfit with 3 locations on this side of the state. They said they deal in quantity and have a few of the largest tree companies around going through them . That is why they can give good pricing. He said he sold 25 201s to one company alone this year. To them I'm a nobody home owner and they still treated me like I was their most valuable customer. The bobcat dealer right up the road had been really good to me as well
Besides those two places i get the standard crap service that is common these days.
Busybeaver,
That's a great story about that Stihl Dealer. My work place is in GR, and my buddy often tells me I should stop in to the Dealer you speak of.
I've given up on my local Stihl dealer, and bought my most recent saw (an MS 261 CM much discussed in one of Willard's threads...) at a JD Dealer a little farther away.
They were very easy to work with (price- wise, too), and I'll be going back there for all my Stihl needs.
I have no input on your original topic, as my largest saw is an MS 461. I run a 20" on that and it's a beast. I don't think I'll ever need a bigger saw for my limited use. Good Luck on finding the right combo.
I have a 24" bar for my 084......the saw doesn't know it's there.
Ed
I've got only a 42" on my 084 which doesn't see much action nor do any of my other 100 cc and over saws .These things were built for big wood and I see no sense in wrestling around an 25-30 pound saw to cut 18-24" stuff .Most actually 18" and under .
Yeah, there are lighter saws that will pull a 24 at the same RPM as the MS880 but would bog with a 42.
More on this when it comes to saw size .While it can be a hoot to run a big cubic inch saw it can wear you out .I don't care how old or young you are .Providing you have as I do a choice of saws as per the job you can get a lot more done by picking the saw for the job .
I have at least two years of work ahead of me just to clean up the wind fallen dead ash trees ,some only 8" in diameter .I'm not even going to go as large as 70 cc's on those things when a 50 cc saw will do just as well .Certainly not a 123 cc McCulloch SP 125 or a 99 cc 2100 Husqvarna .That would be like shooting rats with a 30:06 .
What Al said...
The fun factor goes away real quick when running a 125cc saw.
Ed
I had to go to the top to find your original question, to which I can only say that the shortest bar I have that fits my 880 is a 36" and that bar a bit small for that saw size, but, it flies through the wood for certain. I have a hopped up 395 and it is truly a monster. Loud and aggressive and a bit lighter than the 880. Did I mention that it was loud and aggressive? Aggressive is probably and understatement. It's probably the equivalent of going from the stock camero to the supercharged Corvette... it's louder, lighter, and higher revving than the 880, but for cutting big wood constantly, the 880 is easier and more efficient to use.
old thread....same question. Can someone please send me a link for a 32 inch bar that will fit an MS880? I would rather have a 32, but can only seem to find a 36.
@burdman_22 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=54542)
Look up Cannon Bar Works they make 32's for that saw.
If I didn't mention it previously the 42" bar on my 084 is a milled out bar slot from an 066 size .It 's a west coaster because a 42" would never get used on an 066 in these parts .Saying that for those capable of thinking outside of the box you should be about to adapt shorter bars like maybe a 20" for an 880 but it's way over kill . Again like shooting rats with a 30:06 .
Quote from: burdman_22 on July 09, 2022, 05:59:13 PM
old thread....same question. Can someone please send me a link for a 32 inch bar that will fit an MS880? I would rather have a 32, but can only seem to find a 36.
Did you get a 32 ?
Nope, never did.
I tried running a 32" bar on an 084 when we were still cutting old growth back in the late 80's early 90's before the spotted owl in a unit of whitefir about 32-36" dbh thinking I would make a killing but it actually bushelled out a little less than the modified 056. Used way more fuel as well. I ran both the 066 and the 395's and really liked the balance and the smoothness of the 395's but they bushel about the same. I have a 36" bar on my 880 now and wished I would have gotten a 42.
Hmmm?? What does "bushel" mean? ???
Probably spelling it wrong. Just a term for being paid by the board feet you cut. You just write the length and diameter inside your hard hat and scale it out at the end of each day. I believe it's where the term pencil whipped came from. Guys will make logs up with their pencil. Here's my 880 with a 36 at my last job
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/70990/IMG_1779~0.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1694090713)
I'm finding more and more on these residential jobs the folks want to keep they're nut brush and vine maples and about impossible to get on both sides so I fall with a longer bar when needed and limb and buck with a 28" on a smaller saw like the 500 or 372. Also saves a little bit of chain when a guy's limbing that 4th side that's been in the dirt.