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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: tmbrcruiser on April 11, 2017, 10:31:27 PM

Title: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: tmbrcruiser on April 11, 2017, 10:31:27 PM
Was having a great day sawing cypress and was down to the last log for the day. I now know how to flip a log off the back side of the mill on to the floor where the loader can't go. I had almost squared the log and was turning the timber to clean up the first face. Pulling the timber (14"x24"x12') back from the fences with the log turner and as I raised the timber my mind drifted for a second then wham it was on the floor. After two hours I also know how to get a timber back on the mill.

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Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: killamplanes on April 11, 2017, 10:42:07 PM
Not to one up you but I have to tackle a 21ft white oak I flipped over the deck just before dark. The small end 18 inch. It's stuck between the mill and slab pile. Luckily I've got a boom truck I just have to go get it from the timber tommorrow and pluck it out of there. My forklift can't reach it either. Must be a full moon.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: paul case on April 11, 2017, 11:28:53 PM
I first thought it looked nice there until I read what you did.

Dont feel bad. I flipped a whole log over the backstops all the way up the other day. Oh, I was on the skid steer and got my gee and haw mixed up.

If you leave that new cant deck there put some stops on it so you dont have this problem again.

PC
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Larry on April 11, 2017, 11:47:24 PM
When I tried that trick I broke about a dozen straps on the top of the energy chain.  Those things are not cheap.

I noticed in your pictures it was light with the cant on the floor but dark in the next picture and you still hadn't got it back on the mill. :D  Its all fun. :)

Tomorrow will be a better day.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: fishfighter on April 12, 2017, 05:54:18 AM
#2 reason as to why I will be installing a trolley/winch system over head in my mill shed. :D
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: ladylake on April 12, 2017, 06:21:18 AM



Those mistakes show up at the end of the when your getting tired.   Steve
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: bandmiller2 on April 12, 2017, 06:46:45 AM
Happened to me once, at least no one was around to see it. There was a small excavator on site with a thumb, problem solved. Frank C.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: kelLOGg on April 12, 2017, 06:48:48 AM
Screw-ups allow us to get clever to get around them. Ask me how I know ;)
Bob
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: 4x4American on April 12, 2017, 07:00:19 AM
One thing you can do is make a couple dollys so all you have to do is get it up onto them and then roll it around the mill until you get it where you can reach it with the loader. One thing is for sure, it's probably going to happen again lol
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 12, 2017, 07:47:21 AM
   Wow! That's amazing! I didn't know that you could roll a log or cant off of a mill. :D

   Glad you were able to get it back in place. (I was lucky when I rolled my first log across my mill that it was fairly small and able to get back on with much extra equipment. ;) ;)) Glad nobody was hurt. It happens. Kind of like sawing into clamps, leaving toe boards up and making long wedges, etc.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: slider on April 12, 2017, 08:05:50 AM
I confess this has happened to me more than once over the years.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: paul case on April 12, 2017, 08:17:11 AM
Where is MM?

I thought he might have something to say here.

PC
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: york on April 12, 2017, 08:25:00 AM
Why,i would never set up a mill,against a wall,need to be open on both sides....
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: 47sawdust on April 12, 2017, 09:00:28 AM
Yep!,I know how to do that as well.After the original deflated feeling,it was,"what are you gonna do now,bonehead?"
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Magicman on April 12, 2017, 09:26:01 AM
 

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PC, I have no idea what this is all about and have nothing to say.   :-X
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: WLC on April 12, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
Did exactly the same thing last week.  Looked like Magicmans pic except for log species.  I was able to lift it back on the mill with the tractor forks and a chain.  Amazing how that happens when you forget to put up the backstops. And it happens in slow motion.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: fishfighter on April 12, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: kelLOGg on April 12, 2017, 06:48:48 AM
Screw-ups allow us to get clever to get around them. Ask me how I know ;)
Bob

Well, I still haven't learn how to cut thru a backstop and not crash a blade. :D
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Rhodemont on April 12, 2017, 02:49:38 PM
After reading these follies glad to know I am not as dumb as I thought.  Was turning a big oak log with the hydraulics and managed to raise the hold during the operation and flipped the log right up over the stops.  Come to think of it, it was the last log just getting dark.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: WDH on April 12, 2017, 03:56:21 PM
 :) :) :)



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At least I could get to it with the tractor  :-\. 
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Andries on April 12, 2017, 04:01:31 PM
Yup, shows to go, those logs like to get frisky as the sun goes down.
;D
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: bandmiller2 on April 12, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
If all else fails cut the cant up for blocking or log to firewood. Frank C.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: GDinMaine on April 12, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
This was the last log of that job.

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Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Larch on April 12, 2017, 10:06:21 PM
The pain!  The pain!  All these pictures bring back some really bad memories.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on April 14, 2017, 07:15:04 AM
Glad to see that FF members arent afraid to admit their blunders.
I have made too many to mention.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Dieseltim on April 14, 2017, 11:39:05 AM
Tmbrcruiser,

I know it might just be the way the picture was taken,  but it looks like you could have hooked a chain on it and pulled it under the mill. Might have been quicker.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Darrel on April 14, 2017, 06:32:42 PM
If you don't have pictures, it didn't happen. That's all I have to say!
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Delawhere Jack on April 14, 2017, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: WLC on April 12, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
... Amazing how that happens when you forget to put up the backstops. And it happens in slow motion.

Ain't that the truth... I usually find an expletive or two coming out of my mouth in slow motion also when these things happen.

It's good that we can all shake our heads, cuss a little, remedy the situation, and laugh about it later.
Title: Re: How dumb can I be? VERY!
Post by: Magicman on April 14, 2017, 09:22:37 PM
I wish that I had a picture of my worse one somewhere except in my mind.  It was a 20' X about 26" White Oak.  Of course the sawmill head was almost all of the way up and the log never stopped rolling.  It buried the side outriggers and you could walk under the tail end of the sawmill.  The log end jamming into the ground is the only thing that kept the sawmill from turning over on it's side.

I did not have access to the customer's tractor so I left and went home.  When I got there the next morning the sawmill was upright and the log was laying on the loader ready to be sawn.  That is the incident that made me start carrying a camera.