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Thought it was ash but now not sure.

Started by LeeB, September 21, 2020, 06:14:37 PM

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LeeB

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

The large medullary rays say that it is oak. 
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LeeB

Very white wood and somewhat lite in weight. Just didn't seem like oak to me. I'll see if I can find some leaves. It did have fence wire in the trunk. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

kantuckid

Reminded me of Chestnut Oak which sure isn't lightweight!
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LeeB

A little dried out but still should give a clue.

 

 


 


 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

The 2nd wood pic with the wide medullary rays and the leaf pics totally confound me. 
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LeeB

I'm pretty sure there is another one close by on the fence line that may help. I'll try to get pics of the fresh leaves. The face grain does look like medullary rays but there in no fleck in the quarter sawn wood and I don't see rays in the end grain.  ???
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

LeeB

Here's a better shot of the end grain. 

 

 

 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

SwampDonkey

Persimmon?

Must be my eyesight because I don't see any wide ray wood.
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LeeB

I do have plenty of persimmon on the place but the bark is not right nor is the wood heavy enough. Leaves are wrong also.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

I am thinking pear or some type of fruit wood.  Does that make any sense to you?
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LeeB

The leaves do resemble some wild pears that are on the place. Have never sawn any of them so cannot compare the wood. The wood does not look like domestic pear though.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

LeeB

Well now, don't believe it's pear either. These are pics of the wild pear in the front yard. Different leaves and bark.

 

 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

SwampDonkey

Looks like some kind of fruit wood then. Looks like some suckers on the trunk like pears and apples have sometimes. :)
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

bluthum

The wood and leaf clusters look some what like Bumelia languinosa. The bark does not but then I've never seen one that big either.

LeeB

Quote from: SwampDonkey on September 24, 2020, 02:10:51 PM
Looks like some kind of fruit wood then. Looks like some suckers on the trunk like pears and apples have sometimes. :)
The last two pics I posted are pear. Not the same tree as the first pics I posted. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

LeeB

Quote from: bluthum on September 24, 2020, 03:14:22 PM
The wood and leaf clusters look some what like Bumelia languinosa. The bark does not but then I've never seen one that big either.
No spines.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

SwampDonkey

Quote from: LeeB on September 24, 2020, 04:03:45 PM

The last two pics I posted are pear. Not the same tree as the first pics I posted.
My eyes musta been glazed over and heavy, when reading it. :D
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

LeeB

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

Good job, Bluthum!  That is certainly it.  I have it here, just never seen the wood inside the tree.  

Lee, the leaves are weirdly soft, feel like velvet.  Try it and see. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

kantuckid

I have Black Haw growing right near my home. The leaves have some resemblance to the OP's pictures but the bark is not similar at all. Black Haw here is a small shrub sized tree, mine are exceptional @ maybe 15-20'.
I see them along highways here noticeable by the flowering in season. They grow in clumps from self seeding of the fruits via bird poop? They now have many green berries on them which turn dark, navy blue in the fall and a small oval shape which birds eat.
Clusters of tiny white blossoms in early spring make them attractive near homes, etc.. The bark is in small obvious blocks not as seen in the first post above. Reminds me of persimmon bark some but a much different tree overall in spite of the woods resemblance. I have sawmilled persimmon and it has that ebony family dark heart in streaks.
Cannot comment on the wood as I never chopped on one.
I say no to Chittamwood- which I've never heard of until now. Black Haw leaves are not "velvety" but do have some gloss as OP's pics. 
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LeeB

Other common names include antswood, black haw, brazos bumelia, buckthorn, chittimwood, coma, ironwood, shittamwood, false buckthorn, gum bumelia, gum elastic, gum woolybucket, slowwood, stifftwig, tempesquistle (Mexico), Texas bumelia, woolybucket bumelia, wooly buckthorn, wooly bumelia, and zapotillo (Mexico).
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

Texas Ranger

I am glad that is over, none of my books identify blackhaw, or also called wayfaring tree, arrow wood, sweet haw. 'twas a puzzlement.-
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SwampDonkey

Looks like a dead ringer for sure. 8) :)

A real stumper. You guys have all kinds of different wood that stay well south of old man frost and his glaciated porch. :D
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

kantuckid

I stand by my opinion which is based on my tree book that it doesn't look like my Black Haw trees. I'll estimate there's ~ 12-15 of them within a 100' of my home. 
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