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Title: Logging in southern VT
Post by: Arich on November 22, 2008, 06:56:06 PM
Im going to look at a job tommorow in southern vermont, between bellows falls and brattleboro. Are there any mills or log yards in that area that anyone is farmilliar with. Come to think of it im gonna need a trucker also. If I get the job it will be about a 70 acre hemlock cut.
Thanks
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: bkellyvtme on November 22, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
Try this:

http://www.vtfpr.org/util/for_utilize_sawmill_search.cfm
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: Arich on November 22, 2008, 07:32:10 PM
thats a pretty sweet directory, what about NH?
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: bkellyvtme on November 22, 2008, 07:37:50 PM
Here is one.

http://extension.unh.edu/forestry/sawmill/index.cfm

Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: vtbuckslayer on November 23, 2008, 01:01:13 PM
im from southern vermont and theres a mill right in brattleboro that will buy some softwood and hardwood. they will do the trucking themselves. its called cersisoma lumber.  its a pretty big mill worth giving a peak.what are you gonna be cutting and whos the crew?
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: beenthere on November 23, 2008, 01:18:55 PM
I've been there, and think it is Cersosimo Lumber :)

http://www.cersosimolumber.com/

Great guys, and very neat operation. I wonder if they are still big into the co-gen system using a lot of their own residue for fuel?
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: mike_van on November 23, 2008, 05:28:55 PM
I always like Bellow Falls - Just across the river in NH is where my syrup supplies come from.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: vtbuckslayer on November 24, 2008, 03:02:34 PM
ya i visited this summer couldnt remeber how to spell it :P.    ya they are real big into using their own scraps.  im pretty sure they are up to two boilers and are heating most of their building and their dry kilns from them. real nice mill clean and very well organized. they really know what is going on.  They are pretty big on using over seas markets as well. lately around us alot of mills and paper mills are shoting down.  Rutland plywood which has been around for many years is barely holding in there i hear. Sad to see these businesses going down.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: adirondack harvester on November 24, 2008, 03:28:57 PM
You might want to consider sending it to Finch and Pryn in Glens Falls, NY.  I sent some hemlock this summer to them and it was fetching about $135/cord (including mileage) at that time.  Not bad for hemlock.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: bkellyvtme on November 24, 2008, 04:46:26 PM
I was pleased with Finch Pryne. Nice people to deal with. Hemlock saw timber is pretty low right now ::), so that is not a bad option.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: Engineer on November 28, 2008, 03:57:59 PM
If you still need a trucker, call Mike Tatro in Stamford, VT.  He runs a whole fleet of log trucks for hire that cover most of VT, western MA and the NY Capital District.

I don't know of any mills that are actively looking for hemlock; I wish you luck.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: cantcutter on November 29, 2008, 08:26:31 PM
I don't know what hemlock is bringing in that area but my FIL is having about 120 acres (mix pine/hemlock) cut in central VT right now. He has been waiting for prices to go up for about 5 years now but the land is in usage trust so he had to have it cut. The outfit doing the logging is blowing it into chip trucks.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: zackman1801 on November 29, 2008, 10:19:23 PM
^ thats what i was thinking, most softwoods other than White Pine either get chipped on site or get sent as pulp. very few mills will take anything other than WP around here now. a few will take some hardwoods.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: thecfarm on November 30, 2008, 07:23:25 AM
Have you checked out Hancock Lumber?Seems like there is a mill close to you.Hemlock is not a good money maker,even when the market is good.Hemlock is an old timer wood.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: Craig on November 30, 2008, 08:09:45 AM
http://www.wdcowls.com

They are located in Amhearst Mass. They buy hemlock and when they are looking for specific lengths they pay pretty well for it. Shane Bojanic is the forester there.

As far as chipping if you do the math it is only worth chipping the stuff you can't sell for pulp. $30 - $35 per ton for chips depending on where you send them. You get more for pulp per ton and you don't have to run a chipper that consumes a lot of fuel.

Thats my 2 cents worth (oops where in a recession, my 1 cents worth)

Craig
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: kenneth on December 09, 2008, 04:55:14 AM
I live in westminster, next to Bellows Falls and work in Brattloboro. Last time i visited Kerber's mill on rout 5 in Guilford he was having a hard time getting enough hemlock.There is a good sized operation across the river in Alstead NH. (Something and daughters), can't think of the first name I'm sure it is in the book.
  Does Cersosimo buy hemlock?
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: Arich on December 09, 2008, 07:30:01 AM
I checked with Cersosimo and they only buy hemlock pulp.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: cantcutter on December 10, 2008, 12:43:41 PM
Keep us posted on what you find. My FIL says that they are shipping some pulp out, but chipping most of it. The logger has the chipper subed out so it is not costing him anything in fuel. I am not talking small trees either, most of it is over 30  IBH. The logging outfit has a feller buncher and cut everything he could with that in 4 hrs on one day. He is felling everything else by hand because it is too large for the buncher. I will be going up next week; I will take some pictures.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: AlexHart on December 13, 2008, 08:05:18 PM
I do trucking work for Cersosimo's yard in Westfield Mass and they will buy hemlock but only pay a token amount for it (I think 100/m).   They aren't the place to take hemlock but for hardwood sawlogs they are a great mill to do business with. 
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: maple flats on December 15, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
I like the Miss Bellows Falls Diner, an old street car, good food and real maple syrup.
Too bad you are so far away, I have a mill and am trying to get about 8000BF of hemlock, but I am about 5 hrs from there and trucking would kill the price, you would have to pay me to take it unless you paid the shipping. Even then, 8000BF is not very much.
Title: Re: Logging in southern VT
Post by: tw3006 on December 16, 2008, 05:35:13 PM
I live here in southern Vt. and work with my dad logging. He has been a contract logger for Cersosimo lumber for probably 20 years, great people to deal with, always a fair scale. They have too much to lose by shorting people.