Siezed 394XP teardown help needed **SOLVED**

[Rocky_J]

You haven't finished that saw yet, Dave? Whatcha waiting for, an epiphany?  :D

[Dave Shepard]

Yes, if you had the right tools. You'd need a long fine thread Gr.8 bolt, a couple of nuts, and some way to put a nice point on it.

[Dave Shepard]

I'll send you some of my cold weather. :D It's DanG cold in my garage at the moment, about 10, and will be below zero next week. I kept trying to talk myself into just putting it back together with the old bearings, but it just isn't worth the risk of a bearing failure. The last time I worked on it, I screwed up one of the new seals, and after the battle I had getting it apart, I almost smashed the thing on the anvil to put it out of its misery. : I thought better of it, and decided to just cool off and get to it some other time. I've learned enough about porting and polishing that I'm going to give it a try. Should be a pretty DanG good saw when I'm done. Using my 66 and the 266 at work is amusing for a little while, but the novelty has worn off. It's time to make some chips!

[Cadenhill]

hi Dave,
If you don't mind sharing? Who makes the case splitter and are they available?I surely could use one for a project?
Good luck with your saw

Regards
Jim

[Dave Shepard]

They are in the Husky catalog. There are three or four sizes. The big one covers most all saws, and I think there are special ones for 357xp, 346xp and maybe one other. Retail price was $65.

[Reddog]

I'll send you some of my cold weather. :D It's DanG cold in my garage at the moment, about 10, and will be below zero next week.

Whats wrong with the kitchen table?  ;D

[Meadows Miller]

I'll send you some of my cold weather. :D It's DanG cold in my garage at the moment, about 10, and will be below zero next week.

Whats wrong with the kitchen table?  ;D




He might have a missus that wont stand for that type of behaviour  ;) :D :D ;D

Dave I  might have to take you up on that offer mate I could do with some Nice COOL Weather  ;D we could do a strait trade My fine sunny and a dang Hot around 110 for the next few days  ;) Shipping is the responability of the reciveing party No warrantys Given or Implyed  ;) :D :D :D :D ;D ;D

Chris

[Dave Shepard]

I'll send you some of my cold weather. :D It's DanG cold in my garage at the moment, about 10, and will be below zero next week.

Whats wrong with the kitchen table?  ;D

Who said I don't have other projects on the kitchen table? ;)


I could use some 110 weather for the next couple of days, going to be -10 later in the week. We do a lot of different stuff at work, and it's more productive to work indoors than to try and make machinery work when it's that cold. It can be done, but it comes with a price.

[Cadenhill]

Thanks Dave for sharing the info. I am tired of fighting cases.

[Dave Shepard]

Alright, so I need to pull the piston to use the case buster, any tips on getting the clips out? I think the stock ones had a bend in them that you could grab with pliers, but not the replacements ones. I started to prod at them with a twisted pick, but I gave up on account of the frostbite on my nose. :

[Dave Shepard]

It took almost 15 months, but I finished a project. I had to split the case twice, buy seals twice,  : hand make a woodruff key, and search nooks and crannies for an hour to find all the parts, but the DanG thing Lives! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) I have had absolutely every piece of this apparatus in my hands at least twice, and managed to get it all back together without any leftover parts. I'd never have believed it possible in the beginning.

[sawguy21]

All well and good but does it run?  :D Just giving ya a hard time Dave, it looks good. Well done.

[Dave Shepard]

It sure does run! I set the carb to factory baseline, and it idles and revs up well. It'll need some fine tuning, but it is DanG close straight off. It's been 52 months since it blew up. I hope that is not going to set a precedent for project completion. :D

[Meadows Miller]

Gday


Dave with all the time and hard work that you have  put into it id just like to say a big congrats on a Top Job Mate  ;) ;D 8) 8) 8)

Chris

[Dave Shepard]

Thanks. There were a couple of times that I wondered why I was doing it, but in the end, it was for the same reason as always. Now I know how to do it. :D I've probably got ten hours in the project, between searching the farm for the strewn parts, or scrubbing the grime off the parts, but it was well spent. I'm looking for the next basket case. I'll have a different approach next time. I'll have all my tools ready, and a good clean work station. I'm sure if I was to do it again, with the right tools this time, I could do the whole job in maybe 4-5 hours. I'd get a long hex bit for the cordless drill, however. ;) :D The real fun starts tomorrow, when I sink it into some wood. 8)

[beenthere]

Good job. So much fun the first time ya had ta do it twice ??  : :

Now, just don't go out tomorrow and back over it with the tractor....jus for fun.  ;D

[sharkey]

How did it run under a load? 

I always go back over the bolts and tighten them a second time.  If Im not exactly sure how something will work out I dont tighten the bolts real super tight when Im putting them back in.  Sure enough I always loose a couple from vibration if I dont go back over them.  I dislike loctite, so that may be some of my problem.

Thanks,
Bob   

[Ironwood]

Loose bolt are common on those screamers anyway. Ironwood

[Dave Shepard]

394 a screamer? You must be hanging out with Al_Smith. :D ;) It's going to get some port and polish after I work it this winter. Going to lose the base gasket too. Got to fix the no spark problem, however. It wouldn't fire up yesterday. ???

[Meadows Miller]

Gday

that would'nt have been fun mate  : : ??? :P : :( :( been there myself just alittle more tweekage needed hey  ;) ;D ;D

Chris

[bandmiller2]

Dave, your dues have been paid,each one you do now will be easier.Bearings and seals can usally be found at a good supply house alot cheaper than dealers.I think I've got a 394 a friend gave me low comp., but free you inspired me to pull it apart,too much snow for anything else.Frank C.

[Dave Shepard]

I put a new plug in it and pulled the wire to the kill switch and it lit right off. 8) Might be the wire was bad, I don't know. Bearings were 12.24 each and seals I think were 14 each, and that's from Husky dealer, who is also fastest at getting parts. So bearings and seals is around $50. If you get frustrated with that ole 394, I know a good home for it. ;) :D

So, I thought I had no left over pieces, well, I found an odd hard plastic tube on the floor, and the saw leaks oil like a sieve. I don't recall ever having been introduced to said line, so I must do some investigating. I think it must be a vent line, inside the oil tank, which means I've either got to install it through the oil cap hole, or reverse the previous procedure, and split the saw again.  :-\ I wouldn't have minded so much if the part I left off was something on the outside, like maybe a bar not or something. :D

[Maineloggerkid]

Well, even at my age I have learned one thing- nothing is ever simple, is it?

[Rocky_J]

You mean you're not supposed to have leftover parts?  ???  ;D

[Dave Shepard]

No, I don't think there are supposed to be any, except the ones replaced. I looked up the part on the IPL, and it's a breather tube. I think I can stuff it in the oil hole. I'm hoping anyway. ;)