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Urban Log transportation ... small or large scale ... show us your method!!

Started by Captain, June 11, 2007, 10:55:36 PM

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Ironwood

I have posted these pics before, I'll throw it in for fun, crane trailer mostly homemade, large arch homemade, small arch homemade, Last pic is my old truck, the bed/ crane went on the new chassis. I moved the truck crane to the rear of the bed to be more effective at reaching. You get the idea.











And this is my old truck, the crane and bed went to the new one.
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There is no scarcity of opportunity to make a living at what you love to do, there is only scarcity of resolve to make it happen.- Wayne Dyer

Warren

O.K. Here's my rig for fetching logs that the tree guys leave for me.  This unit also doubled as my hydraulic log loader and log turner for my original LT15 when I sawed 20 and 24 ft oak logs.  Originally a construction truck, so no grapple. Have to use chokers to sling and lift the logs.  But is still pretty handy.  Can lift in the 4,500 to 5,000 lb range up close to the truck.  I just picked up the sycamore log on the truck today.  FF Log Calculator sez it should be about 3,800 lbs.  That made the truck grunt at full extention. Parked in one yard.  Lifted the log over the hedges out of the adjacent yard.   FWIW, price was not bad.  A friend at church works for a construction company. They upgraded to a newer truck.  The company thought it was going to be a white elephant to get rid of with the knuckle boom.  So I "took it off their hands....".  (Read: jumped on it...)  Still need to fab a set of low bunks for it.  Have the steel.  Just never got around to it....

LT40SHD42, Case 1845C,  Baker Edger ...  And still not near enough time in the day ...

OneWithWood

I found this shot once before so I thought I would find it again and post it here:

JMS 10 ton trailer with Farma 51D loader
One With Wood
LT40HDG25, Woodmizer DH4000 Kiln

urbanlumberinc

This method works pretty well.   8) 8) 8)

Yup, thats a Blue Ox you see there, belongs to a friend of mine who moved the logs for free. ;D ;D ;D

That tree was 106 years old, 39 inside the bark, small end, 13'6 long

Ironwood

THE question IS could the Blue Ox lift it? How much did it weigh?

          Reid
There is no scarcity of opportunity to make a living at what you love to do, there is only scarcity of resolve to make it happen.- Wayne Dyer

urbanlumberinc

Nope, the butt was 8500 lbs.  We set some small logs perpendicular under the big logs to act as rollers.  Then, when we got to the yard, we choked the logs off to a big ole cottonwood and pulled em right out. 

Ironwood

Here is the big arch carrying a big / short log. 



             Reid
There is no scarcity of opportunity to make a living at what you love to do, there is only scarcity of resolve to make it happen.- Wayne Dyer

TexasTimbers

Todd that looks exactly like a PJ trailer, I would bet that it is. If so they are made right down the highway from me in Tigertown Texas by Mexican Mennonites. They claim to be out of Paris but the plant is in Tigertown. I have a 3 axle 34'er just like yours. I don't care for the 3 axle design but it does brake well.
Ya gotta tell me if that is a PJ. If not, someone is knocking off their design to a tee.
The oil is all in Texas, but the dipsticks are in D.C.

Todd

kevjay,
It's a Load Trail trailer, and I think it's out of Cananda, but I found them down in Texas. ( I can't find them in Canada anymore) I bought it used and it's been a great trailer....now only if my truck were bigger.....
Todd
Making somthing idiot-proof only leads to the creation of bigger idiots!

ScottAR

QuoteMexican Mennonites

Am I the only one that finds this hilarious?   :D :D :D
Scott
"There is much that I need to do, even more that I want to do, and even less that I can do."
[Magicman]

Todd

Making somthing idiot-proof only leads to the creation of bigger idiots!

TexasTimbers

Fact is always stranger than fiction. Mexican Mennonites in Tigertown Texas. But that's not the end of the twist. I popped a hub off my rear axle last year and drove out there to get a new one.

The front office is run by . . . . . Canadians. The guy I worked with had just moved down and said that 2 or 3 others had as well. They have an American, Candian, and Mexican flag proudly, and prominently displayed at their plant. they have employee housing right there to the tune of hundreds of units. It's a sprawling operation to which the INS has obviously turned a blind eye ???

But this thread was Urban log transportation I just posted this to give you the rest of the "hilarious"  story. ;)
The oil is all in Texas, but the dipsticks are in D.C.

sawguy21

old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm

Reddog

This is what I use to load and haul. If I had known I would hauling so many for people, I would have gotten a flat deck.


Haytrader

Theere are a lot of Mexincan Mennonites around here. Generally large families who work on farms or in feedlots. Some come up to buy machinery and take back south. Wads of cash. But most are poor and a farm job with a house furnished is what they want. Often the wife hires out also and an older girl watches the kids.
Haytrader

jim blodgett

Have to respect people who are willing to work that hard.  Seems like an old story here in the U.S.

Daren

The Urban Log Retrieval System in action, I posted a picture of it earlier in the thread empty. I have a Case skidsteer and trailer for medium sized loads, and access to semi trailers and endloaders for bigger loads. But this thread was I thought about urban logs, like pull into a yard a get a log. "Low impact urban logging", is that a new phrase ?...One trashed yard and word spreads fast  ;). I pulled into a yard today and picked 2 cedar logs 18"X8' and 16"X9'. Not a jag by any means, but 15 minutes I was there and gone. 30 minutes total from hooking up the trailer to unhooking it. I can't afford $1000's of equipment and hours of labor fetching yard logs, especially cedar. A nice fat walnut looks good riding on the ULRS though. I have already said 95% of my urban logs are delivered, but the ones and 2 I fetch with this little buggy. That is were many of my "free" ones come from, homeowners ones and 2s.

I can carry much bigger/longer logs but have to keep the weight centered over the axle. The long ones can really hang out the back a ways  ::). I have about $75 invested in the Urban Log Retrieval System. The trailer was an old propane tank hauler that I found in the weeds tires and all still pretty good. I knocked on the door of the farmhouse and asked the feller what he was going to do with it, he said if I had the right sized hitch ball he had planned on giving it to me since I asked  :D (just so happened I did). I bought a cheap 12v winch on fleabay for $60 (?) which amazingly has held up so far, some iron I had laying around and a handfull of welding rod.

I guess I could post a picture of a semi load, but we have all seen those. I will post a picture of a big log on the ULRS when I  pluck one from a yard soon.

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

Daren

I do have to add, empty this thing at high speed is a bouncy contraption. Very long tongue to the axle and light. It makes it easy to push even by hand with the leverage, but not so hot pulling empty. I would not pull it down the highway without a load on. In town it is fine and a slow cruise through the country. Loaded it behaves very well on the road and I like the fact that it is long and easy to back up. Short trip, small load $75 log hauler...works for me.
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

Ironwood

Here are some pictures of some walnut I bought from a local resident. I ended up being the bad guy because according to his wife "I was ripping him off", So, lets do the math, I take an hour to get the crane back on the trailer, drive 35 minutes each way plus loading time (total 4 hours), I show up and there is a MASSIVE lightening strike down the side of the bigger tree, and my tree trimmer buddy hits nails in the base (more in there no doubt, due to nail stains) never really got info on that lightening strike ahead of time, nails are par for the course, but told they were "big" by the tree trimmer. I paid more then another freind just paid for walnuts from the forest (although they had nails to). So, the WALNUT urban legend of $$ valuble walnuts continues and the evil guy buys trees on the cheap, never mind the $$ dollars invested in log moving equipment. Fortunately the husband was reasonable about it. Is it worth it? I suppose but I just hate people thinking I am taking advantage, the guy even agreed with me on the undesirable nature of the trees as he had tried several years ago to sell them to local mills and everything I communicated was exactly his experience, so I gained some credibility.

Ironwood

There is no scarcity of opportunity to make a living at what you love to do, there is only scarcity of resolve to make it happen.- Wayne Dyer

ScottAR

Nice haul!   How's that 550 doing?  I haven't found one yet, but I will...
Scott
"There is much that I need to do, even more that I want to do, and even less that I can do."
[Magicman]

amberwood

here we go..some new gear. I was saving it up for a dedicated posting but this thread came back up again.

We had an increased demand for logs to be collected, sawed and returned as boards. Onsite milling work was not always possible. Plus now we can grab the extra free logs that we always too hard!

1996 Isuzu FRR500 with Nokka 4155 Loader. It is a 3 point linkage version, so we replicated the 3 points in the truck chassis. This means the whole crane can be removed when not required. Max lift is 2000kg, max reach 5.5m. The truck has 5000kg of capacity left even after the crane is fitted.

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MS250
DAF CF85-430
ASV RC-85 track loader

Ironwood

Amberwood, NICE!!

Scott, I love that truck. MAKE SURE YOU get the 7.3 diesel, the 6.0 is BAD, VERY BAD. There will be alot of 6.0's out there cheap, but don't be tempted. TONS of motor issues.

Ironwood
There is no scarcity of opportunity to make a living at what you love to do, there is only scarcity of resolve to make it happen.- Wayne Dyer

Captain

Great stuff guys, love the Isuzu Amberwood!!  I've got a Freightliner in my near future....couple of weeks off.  More to come!!!

arojay

Amberwood, I love it.  Ive been thinking about something like that, just a tad bigger with power for pulling the trailer.  Does that loader swing 360 or 270?
440B skidder, JD350 dozer, Husqvarnas from 335 to 394. All spruced up

amberwood

Arojay..400deg of rotation..Truck has plenty. 7.3L..rated at 16t gross.

DTR
MS460 Magnum
MS250
DAF CF85-430
ASV RC-85 track loader

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