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balsam logs?????
« on: May 23, 2004, 09:35:52 PM »
 I have land in Wisconsin with some balsam trees i'd like to cut.Is there any market for logs some of theses trees would have some otherwise is my only option pulp wood?  Some may be about 15+ on stump never really measured.  The land is in no programs so I can do whatever i want.

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2004, 10:13:39 PM »
Can you tell us more about the trees (or logs) you would expect, in size and quantity(volume), as well as quality?  Any idea what they would get you, if cut for pulpwood?

Might consider contacting a consulting forester for information, and learn what they would suggest for harvest and markets, as well as logging options (after you cut, or if you cut).  

Is the land under a management plan now?  

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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2004, 07:53:33 AM »
 As previouslu stated, contact a local Consulting Forester or your Conservation District Forester for local market information and assistance.

See www.acf-foresters.com for a consulting forester in your area.  
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2004, 04:28:52 PM »
they are lovely logs to saw, much better than the old white spruce if you are in need of framing lumber to saw up. we have alot around us here in Quebec. We get paid by the ton here for pulpwood, so we prefer balsam it is way heavier than spruce. Logs are paid the same for spruce or balsam

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2004, 04:36:39 PM »
Do you have any local softwood mills that take studwood or sawlogs? Often times if they are really big they are hollow as culverts, not even worth cutting for pulp. A good sign of nice healthy fir is pitch bubbles in the bark and no lichens in the lower branches. If there are stress seems in the butt, then be prepared to hack off the first 4 feet for butt rot. ;)

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Re: balsam logs?????
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2004, 06:56:39 PM »
from structural point of view if these larger fir have no rot in them
after they are milled are they as good as spruce ?

thanks

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2004, 07:22:22 PM »
In mills here, the lumber is not sorted for fir or spruce, but the buggers cut your price if your load is all fir. Which I don't get at all. But, spruce is stronger and more resilient. Balsam fir often times you'll get rotten pockets in the lumber of those big trees. You can smell the difference in the species in the lumber pile. Spruce, fir, pine, hemlock all have resin cannals. ;)
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2004, 10:28:14 PM »
parttime_logger,

Balsam make a great stud. They grade out very well. Find a stud mill that will accept them. You will get more for them that way rather than for pulpwood.

SwampDonkey made the comment that straight loads command fewer dollars. Might have something to do with the fact that they are very dense. Even after air drying for 6 months, they still have wet pockets.
If the mill plans on kiln drying them green, it takes a substantially longer time than spruce. Drying spruce in high temp kilns can be acomplised in 24 hours. Balsam can take 2 weeks. Usually ends up you over dry the wood surrounding the wet pockets. The best way is to air dry the wood for at least 6 months and up to 1 year. Then kiln dry to remove the wet pockets. But, by then, checking usually occures.

Has to be a stud mill to sell to. Balsam does not make good timbers because it does not pressure treat well.

Do not store balsam logs next to other species. Termites love them. On a quiet day, you can hear the "munchin". ;D

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2004, 03:48:56 PM »
Big black sawyer beatles with long antenae love them fir too, if the bark is still on the logs. Them DanG things bite too, and you can here'm crunch'n the wood in their big mandibles. Also, buprestidae species love it. These insects have flat-headed and round-head borer grubs, respectively. ;)
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