FOOTBALL TRUTHS ...
(1) What does the average Univ of Florida player get on his SATs?
........Drool.
(2) What do you get when you put 32 Alabama cheerleaders in one room?
........A full set of teeth.
(3) How do you get a Arkansas cheerleader into your dorm room?
........Grease her hips and push.
(4) How do you get an Ohio State graduate off your porch?
.........Pay him for the pizza.
(5) How do you know if an Alabama football player has a girlfriend?
......There is tobacco spit on both sides of his pickup.
(6) Why is the Kentucky football team like a possum?
....Because they play dead at home and get killed on the road.
(7) What are the longest three years of a Texas Longhorn football player's life?
........His freshman year.
(8) How many Oklahoma freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
........None. That's a sophomore course.
(9) Where was O. J. Headed in the white Bronco?
....... Durham, North Carolina. He knew that the police would never look at Duke for a Heisman Trophy winner.
10. How do you keep an FSU football player out of your
front yard?
....................Erect a goal post!
AND FINALLY (drum roll and cymbal clash).....
(11) Why did Texas choose orange as their team color?
........You can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and
picking up trash along the highways the rest of the week.
And on the reporting for the Iowa/Iowa State game in Iowa City, they not only give the scores but also the arrest report. ::)
Police cite or arrest 131 at Iowa-Iowa State football game (http://www.radioiowa.com/2010/09/13/police-cite-or-arrest-131-at-iowa-iowa-state-football-game/)
Good ones all!
I am a Syracuse fan.
We are very good in hoops but still have along way to go in football.
Heck, you're old enough to remember when Syracuse was good in football. Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, Floyd Little and they had a national championship in 1959.
It's that time of year!! Cornhusker Coach Fired!! 15 million out the door! After October 1st it would have dropped to 7.5 million buyout. But big money boosters give the nod.
Here we go again in the last several years over 50 million in severance packages. 28 million more than any other school!!! Let's get it right this time Cornhuskers!! With the new 150 million training complex that will be the best in the country and the right coach let's Git-R-Done 💪😂
Roll Tide!!!
SEC is Number 1!
Yep, tired of almost win almost always.... ::)
One of our grandaughter's mailed us a letter from her first grade class assignment in Knoxville, TN yesterday. She said hello, told how she liked her school then stated that the boy's all like the "orange team" but "she likes the blue team, like her Daddy". She did not mean Texas... :D
The KY football team actually dined on gator meat after the game.
Our KY coach seeing some success has an article towards the NE job in today's paper. Most say it's a doubtful choice for him as he's making a bunch here now.
LSU's national champ coach got 16.9 mil to leave.
Urban Meyer is also in todays FB news as a potential NE coach and he says their fans are unique among all football schools in their (my word choice) zeal.
After losing to Appalachian State, I noticed Texas A&M is replacing the turf with cardboard in their stadium this week before playing Miami.
That's because they always play better on paper.
The Aggies found out the same thing Michigan did a few years ago. The ASU Mountaineers shouldn't be taken lightly. Miami is going to be playing a mad A&M team.
I watched some of the plays from the Appalacian State game, they looked hard core, and not to be underestimated.
Alabama was as sloppy as I can remember them, they were lucky to only drop one place in the rankings, and lucky to win. They have been reading too much "rat poison."
Mighty James Madison U moved up from the FCS to the FBS and joined the Sun Belt Conference. They are on the bye week after ripping Middle Tenn. St. and Norfolk St in their first two games(combined score 107-14). They travel to Appalachian State next in a huge game for JMU to show they belong.
Group of 5 Sun Belt Conference wins last week.
App. State over #6 Texas A&M
Marshall over #8 Notre Dame
GA Southern over Nebraska
Look out Alabama, Louisiana Monroe is heading your way!
AL has much to prove at this point. The other factor though is that teams like AL often go 3 deep at all positions via their recruiting so it becomes a test of whose gonna play as the season progresses. Those Sunbelt teams lack that depth and injuries matter more over a season.
For now, AL is running on brand name, not performance.
The Frank Solich curse! He replaced Legendary Tom Osborne and got fired at 9-3. The five National Championships should have easily been a few more if it had not been for the Penn State extended field!!! Florida State ruffing the quarterback by our now Athletic Director Trev Alberts. Miami dropped pass to name a few. And they say Frank Solich has never been back and stepped foot in Memorial Stadium since he was fired and moved. It's been 18 years, nine months and 16 days since Nebraska famously fired Solich after a 9-3 regular season. And Nebraska, once a powerhouse that won five national championships and went 414-82-5 in a four-decade span from the early '60s to 2003, has languished through eight losing seasons since then. Four coaches have been hired and fired at Nebraska since Solich, and the Cornhuskers have failed to finish better than the 10-3 mark achieved by his last team, which went on to win its bowl game in his absence.
Alabama players suffer from Prima Donna Disease, which is having too many Blue Chip recruits with too much ego. One of the reasons the players have the ego is that in many cases they are extremely good, maybe the best in the nation for that position. However, if they don't perform, they get benched. That's one of the secrets of deep recruiting, the playing positions are performance based and for every player in the game, there are a couple more standing on the sidelines waiting to take their place and thinking they can do better. Saban is a master of managing personal strategy and recognizing who is the best at that moment, not who thinks they are the best.
Since every player is a top recruit, and most all have been record breakers at their high schools, then they all have tremendous potential and sometimes all it takes is a little game time to shuffle the players and see who is going to perform to a level to compete and win the National Championship.
Many of the penalties we had were self control penalties, not performance based penalties. So if a Blue Chip player can't control himself from blocking in the back, then the next guy will.
La Monroe will be seeing some new faces, and assuming Bama pulls ahead, Saban will waste no time swapping players and seeing who is performing. That's one reason Bama doesn't throttle back when they pull ahead, he simply puts in different players and expects them to play 100% effort, and at that point they aren't playing against the other team anymore, the Bama players are playing against each other.
I've lived here since 1972, through the Bear Bryant years, then some of the not so good years, and I don't know about the other teams on other conferences, but Bama is always expected to compete for the National Championship, and win it. Sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't but that is what is expected.
There are some incredibly tough items out there, many Saban trained, and they have been "taught" the same mentality and that is most concerning to us fans. From a coaching standpoint, he is competing against the other coaches, just like his players.
College Football. Nothing like it!
As a former player, I'm not in agreement with the notion of separating of self-control vs. performance. As a rule the better athletes don't divert themselves from the ways the game was intended to be played. Trash talk perhaps by some, or jersey grabs in the backfield defenses but back blocks, targeting and sucker punches and the like are never tolerated by any coach having much class or success.
I used to work with a guy who'd spent his entire college football experience as an offensive end at Auburn, 100% of it on the 3rd string and him having been a highly drafted player out of HS in AL. He taught Industrial Electricity at my school. His choice to stay, I'd have gone somewhere else for sure.
Prima donna does not affect all who have high skill at big schools, that's a human personality factor IMO. I went to a very large 3,000 student HS that tended to dominate it's opponents and mostly none of us had that problem any more son than at the much smaller college I attended where the players had all been highly successful HS players or they wouldn't have been there playing. The depth chart was far shallower at that small school and the first unit dropped off heavily to the 2nd one and especially to the 3rd team.
Given the freedom to move during the covid era, we've seen high level players change schools far more often rather than languish where they didn't fit well. In my day it often cost you your scholarship then or later and you became a black sheep player.
AL success has no doubt led to their ability to attract from the many skilled in state and out of region players they get.
As a KS boy I never had any (zero) love for NE sports going back to the Big 6 & Big 8.
Urban Meyer is looking for a job , so any favorable comments from him on any team need to be viewed in the light
Unfortunately the glory days for the huskers are going to be slim . It'll be hard for teams like them to bring in the big boys and top coaching talent . The press and social media is limited , especially with the way college players are being 'paid' . Should've been a set amount per player
So we are in agreement. As is Saban. The best players play the best at all times, and if their emotions or personality get in the way, then there is another player waiting to take their place.
Roll Tide!
Like Urban Meyer said Nebraska use to be the Alabamas. Before Saben went to Alabama they were down for quite some time. And the NFL didn't work out very well for him. But he is a monster in college. Now it's time for Urban to come to Lincoln and turn things around. Like Larry the cable guy said we have the check book open. Who cares about his baggage! He is a winner!!
Quote from: Sedgehammer on September 17, 2022, 01:22:18 PM
Urban Meyer is looking for a job , so any favorable comments from him on any team need to be viewed in the light
Unfortunately the glory days for the huskers are going to be slim . It'll be hard for teams like them to bring in the big boys and top coaching talent . The press and social media is limited , especially with the way college players are being 'paid' . Should've been a set amount per player
We have the money and remember there is no place like Nebraska💪!! That's why we have the longest sellout streak in college football history to this day! Still 90,000 + fans in the stands even through all the years of losing. We are ready for Urban with the 155 million training complex to open next year.
Kind of a long day around here..
Quote from: Walnut Beast on September 17, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: Sedgehammer on September 17, 2022, 01:22:18 PM
Urban Meyer is looking for a job , so any favorable comments from him on any team need to be viewed in the light
Unfortunately the glory days for the huskers are going to be slim . It'll be hard for teams like them to bring in the big boys and top coaching talent . The press and social media is limited , especially with the way college players are being 'paid' . Should've been a set amount per player
We have the money and remember there is no place like Nebraska💪!! That's why we have the longest sellout streak in college football history to this day! Still 90,000 + fans in the stands even through all the years of losing. We are ready for Urban with the 155 million training complex to open next year.
Biggest issue in todays world is players exposure to media to raise thier brands to make endorsements . That's going to be hard to convince kids to go they're even with Urban and a $150 million training center . Alabama grew back before the days of endorsements . Be a lot harder now . That's why allowing players to make money in this regard will further concentrate the best players @ a smaller number of schools
NIL is a great opportunity for alumni to boost their favorite university. Very Rich Alumni with companies can boost their favorite player on the team with promotional deals and pull the university along with it. This is also another recruiting inducement. Any business in a college town can also ride the train.
Did I say I'm just a poor quarterback fo Ohio State. We be ballin now in a new Bentley!! He promotes the dealership in Ohio and they give him a new 150,000 Bentley
https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/football/ohio-state-football-quarterback-cj-stroud-receivers-150000-bentley-bentayga-in-latest-nil-deal (https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/football/ohio-state-football-quarterback-cj-stroud-receivers-150000-bentley-bentayga-in-latest-nil-deal)
You think that's something new? Its been going on for years. Lots of high end athletes have a nice set of wheels.
Those rich donors are the ones paying the high salaries and bonuses for the coaches. Rich donors also pay for facilities on the campus. Like most other things, money will eventually squeeze the joy out of college football.
The money influence will not go away from sports as too many profit from them. Gambling, media and donors who have deep pockets make for a skewed situation. Most all upper-level FB teams have facilities beyond our imaginations, also in basketball too. I personally get an upset stomach when I hear about the planeloads of deep pocket people who hang around sports teams.
My local Lexington, KY newspaper today has an article about the NCAA investigating the employment of KY FB players at the schools hospital. It began as a FB team thing where they'd move released patients upon release to their ride. Then a former school kicker who had a FT job at the hospital opened the door to other jobs which seems to have become a loosely run operation with kids being on the clock when not even in town, etc.. They fired him and stopped the jobs program but it's still with the NCAA. Truth be known the NCAA is more problematic than the programs it seems. Money written all over that group.
The flip side of the players jobs & endorsement scene is that as a player you have mostly zero time to work and earn money, even pocket money. When I played me and a couple of buddies would hang late at a Pizza Hut where they'd give us a leftover pizza or two which someone had called in then no showed. We didn't have enough bucks between us to buy a pizza! My so-called job as a player was cleaning basketballs in the off season for me. I got zero money from it, the numbers went to the schools account.
My BIL is in that group that won't watch pro sports yet loves college sports which are now so far from being a purely amateur area, it's not funny. Myself, I like all sports but do admit to having become no fanboy of the Olympics which I absolutely loved as a kid and track & field athlete myself. I had Al Oerter's news clippings all over my bedroom walls.
Kansas State is a great e.g. of a school in nowhere land that had a truly great players coach who was able to attract kids to a small town in flyover land, sort of like NE used to have in Lincoln.
Urban Meyer is not a coach I can relate with, but in fairness we public don't get to really know these people who are media kings.
Car dealers "loaned" the fancy wheels to kids in the past, now they buy their own? Neither myself nor my player friends had a car when/where I played. I had to get hurt, walk away from a free ride and work for 85 cents an hour @ the IGA to buy my first car.
Wow, lots of great comments here!
I guess I'm that old fashioned guy that think character and integrity still matters, and should be especially prevalent in high school and college sports. The win at any cost attitude and coaching up players to push the rules as far as they can until they're caught just doesn't wash with me.
NIL, not a fan but like I already stated I am "Old and Not in Fashion"
As for Urban Meyer, I wouldn't wish him as a coach for any program, sorry!
I will continue to watch and support my Clemson Tigers and Dabo Swinney unless they also push the limits of proper conduct and sportsmanship. I will also call them out on it as quickly as I would any other program.
I'm not a big Saban or Alabama fan but I have to say that the program has in fact produced a number of very good coaches!
Some aspects of NIL are a turnoff for me but I've been more bothered in the past by not only an athletes inability to have time to earn money while also participating in a sport. Locally we are seeing ads involving former players who were popular but not among the rare ones that play for pay now.
It's also good that I'm seeing our KY coaches emphasizing player volunteerism as NIL finds it's way.
Doesn't the coach "produce" the "program" and not vice versa? ;D
The program is set by the university or college. It depends what they're philosophy is. Many think that a great winning football or basketball team will bring more students applying to the university. More students equals more income. Also, a winning team will bolster attendance, which drives all sports. Its also easier to get donors. But, at what costs?
The program is furthered by the athletic dept. They're responsible for hiring a coach that can get the wins. But, that coach has to recruit top notch players. So, that depends on the facilities, which depends on sources of income.
The problem with today's sports are that when kids come out of high school, they expect to play immediately at the next level. If they don't play for you, they will go into the portal and play somewhere else. Now its seemingly like they're leaving for better pay. Its more like the players are shaping the program than either the coach or the institution.
Back in 2012 there was a student athlete that said "We ain't come here to play school". Its hard to fit someone like that into a program. He went on to play ball, and filled seats at the university. Is it their job to fill seats or be a student? I'm thinking the student part is often lacking.
The problem with college football is that on any given Saturday only 50 per cent of the teams win. Fans would be happier if they could get it up to 75 or 80%.
Quote from: Ron Wenrich on September 19, 2022, 11:54:44 AM
The program is set by the university or college. It depends what they're philosophy is. Many think that a great winning football or basketball team will bring more students applying to the university. More students equals more income. Also, a winning team will bolster attendance, which drives all sports. Its also easier to get donors. But, at what costs?
The program is furthered by the athletic dept. They're responsible for hiring a coach that can get the wins. But, that coach has to recruit top notch players. So, that depends on the facilities, which depends on sources of income.
The problem with today's sports are that when kids come out of high school, they expect to play immediately at the next level. If they don't play for you, they will go into the portal and play somewhere else. Now its seemingly like they're leaving for better pay. Its more like the players are shaping the program than either the coach or the institution.
Back in 2012 there was a student athlete that said "We ain't come here to play school". Its hard to fit someone like that into a program. He went on to play ball, and filled seats at the university. Is it their job to fill seats or be a student? I'm thinking the student part is often lacking.
In the same vein of thought: Having worked for years as a guidance counselor I was in contact with kids and adults every day discussing their future or immediate plans. When I went out to all the middle & HS's in my region, doing career inventories and follow-up sessions with an entire grade, I often found unrealistic, in fact often ridiculous notions toward careers and the world of work. It wasn't limited to the special kids either, as many had no idea what was entailed in becoming a whatever, nor little knowledge of the actual specifics of what they said they wanted to "hang their hat on".
The closest larger city to me is Lexington, KY who back in the late 1970's did a survey of their students' parents' knowledge about the world of work. The survey came about as they's found that most kids got what they did or didn't get toward future planning mostly came from parents as it were.
What they found was that parents were an extremely poor source of career guidance for the kids.
Sports is just yet another e.g. of this type of uninformed thinking.
I saw this happen among family members where one adult would say "She should be a nurse", when fact was they lacked the info to make such talk.
As a coach I dealt with parents unrealistic ideas about their kids talent way too much. Got irate phone calls, face in your face, all that stuff.
For over a half century less than 50% of USA freshmen students finish a 4 year degree at the vast majority of schools, thus my point in another way of speaking. Most schools use completion numbers as a sales pitch in admissions but there are work arounds that clean up those numbers, especially at highly selective schools.
During the U of KY FB game last Saturday, a regional university Eastern KY U ran an TV ad stating that all undergraduates get free textbooks, free other stuff and are admitted via their HS GPA, not an ACT score.
Speaking personally, as a kid I had a plan when I went off to college but it was sports that paid the fees and was my highest priority which is not an all bad thing IMO. Beats being entirely aimless all to crap! And believe me when I say I seen lots of aimless during my 27 years in educational work.
Quote from: Cedarman on September 20, 2022, 05:33:03 AM
The problem with college football is that on any given Saturday only 50 per cent of the teams win. Fans would be happier if they could get it up to 75 or 80%.
Which is much like having a two-party political system huh? Somebody always wins! :D
Back in my youth, ties were often a part of football standings until the rules changed to break ties.
Interesting perspective on preparedness for the next step in people's careers. I distinctly remember when our guidance counselor came to class and said "If at first you don't succeed, quit. You don't have the aptitude for it." He went on to talk about the different avenues available to us and that not everyone was college material.
I don't think people are ready even after college. I had summer jobs in the forest industry, with govt., and in a chocolate factory. But, I wasn't close to being ready for a job as a forester. All my professors came from academia, except for Mr Schmidt. He had mill and logging experience. I used him as a mentor. When I complained that they didn't teach us how to do much, his response that they teach us why to do something and figure we're smart enough to figure out how to do it. I later found out that this was true, at least in my case.
As for 50% being winners and losers, there's a large portion of losers that will contend that they should have won. ;)
I assume some folks saw this, it's the Chad Powers video, where Eli Manning went through a walk on tryout with Penn State. It was hilarious, and brought back many memories for me, especially watching the walk ons bust their tail trying to get in the game, while we sometimes took our scholarships for granted. Typically, the walks ons were slower and smaller, but they made up for it in pure grit and heart.
Anyway, here is a link to the video, it's all over the Internet since yesterday, and is about 15 minutes long.
Eli Manning talks how "Chad Powers" tryout had him worried about physical drills (https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/eli-manning-chad-powers-penn-state-tryout-hamstring.html)
Iowa boy Kurt Warner never gave up! Tried out for Packers and was cut. Went back to sacking groceries in Iowa and the rest is history!
https://thefordhamram.com/83578/sports/from-5-50-an-hour-to-nfl-phenom-the-kurt-warner-story/ (https://thefordhamram.com/83578/sports/from-5-50-an-hour-to-nfl-phenom-the-kurt-warner-story/)
Quote from: Ron Wenrich on September 20, 2022, 11:58:55 AM
Interesting perspective on preparedness for the next step in people's careers. I distinctly remember when our guidance counselor came to class and said "If at first you don't succeed, quit. You don't have the aptitude for it." He went on to talk about the different avenues available to us and that not everyone was college material.
I don't think people are ready even after college. I had summer jobs in the forest industry, with govt., and in a chocolate factory. But, I wasn't close to being ready for a job as a forester. All my professors came from academia, except for Mr Schmidt. He had mill and logging experience. I used him as a mentor. When I complained that they didn't teach us how to do much, his response that they teach us why to do something and figure we're smart enough to figure out how to do it. I later found out that this was true, at least in my case.
As for 50% being winners and losers, there's a large portion of losers that will contend that they should have won. ;)
As a "guidance person" I knew my world of work experience gave students a much broader perspective, but the factual reality was that as I was teaching in a Vo-tech school across the street from the very university where I was doing my masters in counseling, the profs I hoped would be my references saw me as a maverick student who sort of belonged on the other side of their fence. One who I'd thought was my friend and mentor and whom I used as a reference for some years had actually kept me from a couple of jobs, so I learned over time. The academics tend to think and play that way.
The typical HS guidance counselor is often more so a class scheduler & a higher education go-between who functions with college admissions folks and helps with the divy of college scholarships. Most found the guidance masters (teachers must get a masters in nearly all places-KY calls for one within ten years or you lose your job) as their ticket out of the classroom. In most cases they have very little world of work experience other than "maybe" a summer job here & there.
When I became involved with providing students middle school interest inventories (required by the KERA-the KY ed reform laws to come from a Vo-tech source) I learned even more how weak many counselors are toward providing such career guidance. Those with the more nuanced workplace knowledge often got it via their spouse who worked out of education.
The flip side at my own schools (until I left for a public high school) was that everyone came from the real world not schools only. As we speak and for ~ 25 years, the offering of a degree track or a certificate track (skilled trades, etc.) has the PHd's at the helm of tech schools who often are no longer called by the dirty word-"vocational". When I began most ever Vo-tech was admin'd by either a former Ag teacher or a medical background person as they were the only ones with degrees, the rest were like me (at first) who had skilled trades or similar skill sets.
An e.g., at the time I left tech schools and took a buyout my "boss" at the state level was a Phd in counseling lady who had never set foot in a school face to face serving students and made twice my salary. We have a son with a PHd so don't read too much into my saying this-his is very technical stuff at that.
I'll leave the losers thing alone as it's not my thing to dwell on. What I am dwelling on there is that Putin's scary and I have my fears.
FWIW, it sticks in my mind that some years ago the Daniel Boone NF in my immediate area was run by a man with your last name and I actually worked with his daughter who taught biology where I was working, the next county over from the NF main office.
Quote from: Walnut Beast on September 20, 2022, 10:13:40 PM
Iowa boy Kurt Warner never gave up! Tried out for Packers and was cut. Went back to sacking groceries in Iowa and the rest is history!
https://thefordhamram.com/83578/sports/from-5-50-an-hour-to-nfl-phenom-the-kurt-warner-story/ (https://thefordhamram.com/83578/sports/from-5-50-an-hour-to-nfl-phenom-the-kurt-warner-story/)
I Love his story! I went from grocery stockman to mgr to meatpacking, hung up my cleats permanently.
Often that player storyline is like a musicians and timing, or injuries is everything in getting cut.
#1 problem in sports with most of these 'star' athletes do not get an education . Many can barely read or write . There should be strict standards all across the college landscape . Schools like standford & wisconsin with their very high standards is it's a smaller group of players to pick from . I'd wager it's a fairly large % of the bama players cannot do 12th grade high school work and many still not even middle school standards
That is a common misconception. I was a college athlete. I majored in physics and minored in math. I was around a lot of college athletes and other highly recruited high school athletes. I still see lots of college athletes of all kinds, baseball, volleyball, and football. If anything, being a college athlete these days requires quite a bit of mental acuity, memory, pattern recognition, intelligence and awareness, and are qualities that are evaluated as part of being a blue chip athlete. Most of the "competitive" athletes I know are actually pretty high in the intelligence percentile in general.
There are some "dumb jocks" just like there are "dump people" but that isn't desired or normal characteristic of the scholarship athletes recruited at highly competitive colleges or universities.
There aren't any Forest Gumps in major college or university sports departments for very long. They can't compete. They get dropped pretty fast. The best athlete is a very intelligent athlete. Alabama and other major universities recruit the "best" of the best, and including mental acuity is an important factor in being a highly ranked athlete.
One of the things that is monitored very highly are a student athletes grades. If they drop the student become ineligible. So most universities have a tutor and extracurricular educational program in place for all their athletes to maintain grades. Even with this academic support, many young college athletes get dropped because they can't maintain grades and get cut. However, higher classmen athletes are generally very intelligent.
I bet there is a higher percentage of college graduates in general who can't do 12th grade work, I see them all the time...
As far as reading? Anyone who has a cell phone can read. If anything, that is one good thing about them.
I was not a college athlete. I had unassuming friends that were. Bucky Scribner was a KU punter, and his girlfriend was a bartender at Jonny's. He was great, and not worried at all that I was acquainted with her girlfriend. I admire the folks that use scholarships in college to get and education. Not the get a "scholarship despite the education". It may not be popular but I am of the belief, that if they are going to start paying college athelets, I would rather just do away with all together. If they want to be pro, go straight there. We had years where cocky groups of football players would get a beef with some student at a bar, and to show off a group of them would beat someone nearly to death. to enroll you have to pay any unpaid parking tickets, and with 300 students in line, two BB walked to the front of the line nearly knocking people over in the double wide line, stating "coach says we don't gotta wait in no line". I think the behavior depends a lot on the coaches. I think the best guy and the worst guy on the team need to be held to the same standards of performance and behavior. Now kids in middle school cannot do boyscouts cause they have practice at 06:30 am and after school till 6. Some people have great talent, and I respect most the ones that consider it a gift, and not some ability that makes them better. I think has to do with how they were raised as well. Lots of benefits, but lost are the idea that it was a way for schools to come together for development of pride in school. the whole school. remember the Andy Hardy Movies off at college. there are always a few bad apples. frats can be the same way. I worked full time and did research, and enrolled full time in classes to get through. I did well and here we are. I think the purpose of college in general and athletics as well, has been lost, and caught up making money. Not the intended purpose. @YellowHammer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) I am sure you were one of those athletes I would have respected and been friend with.
Excellent comments Doc, thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately there are bad apples and criminals in any group and that is a coaching and athlete department issue who either condones or condemns such behavior.
I would think that would not be tolerated by Saban.
I appreciate being able to have an alternate view. I have great respect for many athletes. I did 3 sports a year in HS and baseball in the summer. I learned a lot. good and bad. Nothing stays simple for ever.
Saban is furious!! Touchdown Tennessee!
Like Lee Corso says! Not so Fast!
I hope the waterfowl hunt in the morning goes better than the football this evening....close again...
Close doesn't win 😊
Nebraska and WB, being a Purdue grad, that was too close.
Well we sure had a strange day yesterday. Lots of close games that shouldn't have been and others that were the other way.
One Purdue player intercepted the ball and proceeded to strut, high stepping down the field for a TD. Big yellow flag. Negate 6 points. Move ball back 15 yards from the stupidity and not even get a field goal. Purdue could have lost the game. He would not have played the last half in my book. I almost hoped they lost.
He got fired and is owed 40 million. He could have rode off in the sunset! The rumors were a Private jet from Warner trucking flew to North Carolina picked up Matt Rhule was taken to Memorial Stadium at night then was taken back to NC a few weeks ago. It was said he turned the Nebraska head football coaching job down. Then talks were back on the table. It's official. Matt Rhule to Nebraska going to be announced officially Monday 💪💪
Amazing! Michigan throttles Ohio State!! How about it Michigan fans. Do you still want to run Jim out of town! Adversity to a big W at the Buckeye's house! First one since 2000!
South Carolina beat #8 Clemson! Barely! WOW!
Since it is "rivalry week " NCSU beat #17 North Carolina!
What do you call a pretty girl on NC State's campus?
Lost!
Alabama beats in-state rival Auburn!
Texas A&M defeats LSU!
I went to see James Madison throttle #23 Coastal Carolina today 47-7 to win the Sun Belt Conference East Division. Its JMU's first season at FBS level so they aren't allowed to play in the conference title game against Troy or go to a bowl game. They say you have to wait four years. Stupidity and ROBBERY!
Quote from: SawyerTed on November 26, 2022, 05:33:05 PM
South Carolina beat #8 Clemson! Barely! WOW!
Since it is "rivalry week " NCSU beat #17 North Carolina!
What do you call a pretty girl on NC State's campus?
Lost!
Yeah, being a Clemson fan I just couldn't like this 😁, but sending my $ to NCSU for one son's tuition I liked that outcome 😉.
The Appalachian State versus Georgia Southern game was an exciting one! Those two teams pull all the stops when they play. It didn't turn out as I'd like but what a game!
Of course my alma mater, East Carolina squeaked by Temple.
My other tuition $ went to App State for older son :D :D. Both boys to NC schools, where did I go wrong :P :P
Just Kidding, the respective courses of study was the driving factor and both did well and are both extremely productive members of society and good men so "money well spent" 8)
ECU x 4 degrees wife and I
UNC Wilmington oldest daughter x 1 degree
NCSU son x 1 degree
UNCG youngest x 1 degree
UNCG wife 1 PhD
My Dad went to Duke
My Father In Law went to UNC Chapel Hill
Mother In Law to Appalachian State
We just cheer for whichever NC team is playing.
The Huskers have the longest sellout streak in college football since 1962 that still remains intact. There is no fan base like the Huskers! Name me a stadium that would remain sold out with a loosing record since 2016.
Huskers new coach Matt Rhule will be in the top ten of highest paid coaches at nine million a year for eight years.
The Huskers are hungry to win!!
Glad Alabama isn't in the playoffs
Wisconsin looks like they got a good coach finally . Chryst was a joke @ pitt and finally ran the badger football program into the ground
happy birthday Sedge!
Wow! Utah crashed USC little party!!
Lincoln Riley was brought in at 10 million 10 year deal so this would stop happening
Maybe Alabama isn't in the playoffs (still a chance) but considering both losses amounted to a total of 2 plays and 2 seconds combined, they could have easily been ranked number 1 with zero losses. A sudden death play with no time on the clock, and an end zone pass with 2 seconds left in the game resulted in two losses. It happens, but the rumors of Alabama's demise are premature.
Either way, I am convinced Georgia will take the trophy, so SEC will still rule. Go SEC and Roll Tide!
Is YH getting excited! How about them Wildcats! WOW! What a game but they say TCU might not drop out since tight hard fought game and only one loss now!
👍 now we wait and see what the committee says...
MICHIGAN REARS IT'S HEAD FROM THE GLATIATED NORTH
go blue
Watch the Colorado Buffaloes!! Prime Time is their new coach!!
The Spoilermakers when unranked have beaten more #1 and #2 teams 4 more times than any other team. I wished they could have made it 5. Good luck Jeff
Sorry but I have to root for the Dawgs and the SEC if just for WDH.
Some good and some not so good football was played yesterday. All I can say is GO DAWGS.
Well, the UT- CLEMSON game didn't have the results that I was hoping for but still a 11-3 season, and there's always next year. Go Tigers!
Looking forward to CFP championship game with TCU and Georgia, should be interesting! Since I don't have a dog (DAWG) in the fight :D, can just watch and enjoy 8)
Quote from: customsawyer on January 01, 2023, 07:51:13 AM
Some good and some not so good football was played yesterday. All I can say is GO DAWGS.
Congratulations 8)
As a fan of the correct Dawgs, UW, that is. It was a fun season. 11-2 after going 4-8 and we return almost everyone. If the Pac didn't get rid of divisions they would've played USC instead of Utah. After the bowl results it's hard to argue UW wasn't the best Pac team. A UW vs PSU game would've been fun. A rematch of a few rose bowls ago.
If you look at records, it was definitely a case of a good loss with no bad ones, is better than good wins with a bad loss. PSU had no top 25 wins going into the rose bowl. Just crazy.
Being a Penn State grad, I liked the Rose Bowl this year. We were pretty concerned about Utah. Its been an entertaining year in college ball. Tulane and TCU certainly turned things around. Hopefully the championship game will be as entertaining as many of the bowl games were this year.
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In the words of Forest Gump "That's all I have to say about that".
SEC - There is no substitute.
One would hope that the National Championship game would be a good one. We quit watching it with a couple of minutes left in the second quarter, and watched a couple of Netflix series episodes.
Hopefully, the NFL playoffs will be better.
No preference for either team. We were just hoping to watch a good contest.
I forgot and did not turn it on till 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Wow! 59 to 7 at that time then Ga scored another TD.
I know Danny was watching and rooting for his Dawgs. ;)
Congratulations Georgia...head and shoulders above the pack.
In defense of Big 10 football, Ohio State lost to Georgia by missing a field goal in the last play of the game. Georgia won by 1 point.
Anyway you spin the bottle it wasn't a good look for the big ten. No moral victories. You have to close the deal!!That was a nightmare and embarrassment for the selection committee. Guarantee if Bama would have been in there the spread wouldn't have been a couple touchdowns. Saban said in a interview the bowl games are not as good by far as the older days. The larger playoff picture should be better.
Two Big Ten teams in the final four.. that's honorable for the Big Ten
How about all the critics about Coach Prime! Dion Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes. Hard work and belief! Nobody gave them a chance against #17 TCU and national runner up
Just wanting for my Clemson Tigers to play good disciplined football tomorrow against Duke and start off with a W. How our season will turn out I don't know, there's been quite a bit of new talent added but wishing for another return to the CFP :). Go 🐅 Tigers!
Didn't begin well for the new Nebraska coach and team. But I'll wait and see how it plays out at the end of the season and hope the jaw-jacking commentators getting paid to drum up the gambling bets and odds find a new job. ;D ;D
James Madison Dukes played Bucknell and the line was 46.5 points. At the end of the first quarter it was 3-0 and 17-3 at halftime. JMU started a redshirt freshman who won the job in practice and wasn't game ready. The run game did the work. Midway through the third, they put in the experienced guy and pow, off they went for 21 points for a 38-3 final. Put in the third string guy with 6 mins left in the game.
Walking out of the stadium with a 38-3 win and we were more relieved than anything else.
Next week JMU vs Virginia. Bragging rights game. Should be fun.
Almost always, almost win... Too much could'a, would'a, should'a....
I.M. Hipp to what you are sayin!
Bama's back. Next week against Texas ought to identify some areas to work on. Coach Saban seems to be more hard core than usual this year, he's had to live with the press all year doubting and second guessing, and isn't much into having them ask stupid questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksSFMrWppXw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksSFMrWppXw)
I'm sure the reporter wasn't expecting that and felt a little intimidated
Nebraska Baylor in 1977 I.M. Hipp ran for 122 yards. My first college football game. :) @rusticreatreater
Duke beats Clemson. 28-7 ??!
Wha??
Quote from: YellowHammer on September 05, 2023, 08:38:46 AM
Duke beats Clemson. 28-7 ??!
Wha??
Still mourning, it's too soon after the defeat to give a good response :(.
Clemson lead in all categories except the score, yards passing, yards rushing and oh yes, fumbles!! It was really ugly.
At the football stadium! World record 92,003 fans for husker women volleyball.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38294591/nebraska-volleyball-sets-world-record-attendance-women-sporting-event (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38294591/nebraska-volleyball-sets-world-record-attendance-women-sporting-event)
Well, due to Clemson thrashing by Duke we dropped from #9 to #25. Will have to go completely undefeated the balance of the season to even get a sniff at the top 4 ranking. Might be a long season for us :(
Every organization needs a wake up call from time to time.
Not going to be a fun week of practice in Death Valley.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/TEXAS.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1694357982)
Awful quite from the SEC
JMU pulls it out vs UVA with 45 seconds on the clock. 36-35 final. Whew.
Bama falling from its perch. Time for someone else to rule.
Apparently Coach Prime knows what he is doing. Another tough day for the Huskers.
Quote from: rusticretreater on September 06, 2023, 11:46:58 AM
Every organization needs a wake up call from time to time.
Not going to be a fun week of practice in Death Valley.
Probably going to be a worse day tomorrow in Tuscaloosa :)
Hope Danny was lookin down at his Dawgs today. 8)
I'm sure he was on the edge of his seat.
After yesterday's beating I hope to Michigan and Georgia play at the end...
James Madison still rolling in the Sun Belt, 5-0. So far they've knocked off UVA, Troy(Sun Belt West Div Champ last season and fav this season), So. Alabama- #2 team in the west.
They have a very annoying habit of building a big lead and then taking their foot off the gas and letting their opponents catch up. Four of the victories have been one-score games.
Week off and then Georgia Southern, 4-1 followed by Marshall 4-0. Its crunch time!!
Quote from: beenthere on September 30, 2023, 09:40:47 PM
Hope Danny was lookin down at his Dawgs today. 8)
He was sitting there with Tom sipping a beverage cheering.
Welp the fake dwags, UGA that is, and the real dawgs, UW that is, both have the longest current winning streaks in the nation. I'd love to see a dawg fight in the playoffs, but Pac is having quite a swan song and Georgia looks to have a fairly easy schedule going to get to the SEC championship
go blue
Well, unfortunately it's going to be a "yawner" year for Clemson :(.
Alabama/Auburn was quite a finish. Nebraska will be sitting home watching bowls as usual.....Watching Kstate/Iowa state play in the snow. :) Loved playing in the snow in high-school.
go blue
Meanwhile in JMU land, it is a time of great excitement. They are barred from post season participation for two years due to transition rules governing teams moving from FCS to FBS competition.
For both seasons of the transition they have won the Sun Belt East and are not allowed to play in the conference championship game. This season they beat both teams that are in the title game, are 11-1 and ranked #24 right now.
The only way they are allowed post season play is if there aren't enough of teams who have six qualifying wins to fill all the bowl game spots. 41 bowl games, 82 spots. There ended up being three available spots. So the news reports are that JMU will get its first ever bowl game. Now the hype train is talking about the New Years Six bowl games, one of which features Group of 5 teams. Liberty(12-0) and JMU(11-1) are the two top teams.
Well, after a pretty ugly start to the season my Clemson Tigers finished on a high note beating the chickens 8). At least we're bowl eligible :)
My, oh, my! The University of Texas!
When I grow up I want to be a fired college football coach.
Ditto :)
Clemson is my southern team. I try to choose a team from each conference. All the realignment is making that hard but Clemson is my ACC and southern team
Quote from: JD Guy on November 27, 2023, 07:57:36 PM
Well, after a pretty ugly start to the season my Clemson Tigers finished on a high note beating the chickens 8). At least we're bowl eligible :)
Dabo fired a few people, when you go .500 against NC State over the last 4 years but spent twice as much as recruited at a much higher level (part of the spend)...you should win another game or two. This year that game was not actually close. Ended up tied for 7th place in the conf.
Losing Venables has really hurt Dabo. Before Venables Dabo looked like a good coach, with him great coach, after him...well a pretty decent coach.
Quote from: nativewolf on December 02, 2023, 05:19:28 AM
Quote from: JD Guy on November 27, 2023, 07:57:36 PM
Well, after a pretty ugly start to the season my Clemson Tigers finished on a high note beating the chickens 8). At least we're bowl eligible :)
Dabo fired a few people, when you go .500 against NC State over the last 4 years but spent twice as much as recruited at a much higher level (part of the spend)...you should win another game or two. This year that game was not actually close. Ended up tied for 7th place in the conf.
Losing Venables has really hurt Dabo. Before Venables Dabo looked like a good coach, with him great coach, after him...well a pretty decent coach.
No question that the Venables replacement hasn't measured up (IMHO) with the previous team's defenses. I'm still a Dabo supporter and believe in his approach with the players. He is loyal to his staff perhaps to a fault, wanting to promote from within. The games lost were primarily mental errors mostly fumbles and takeaways while in the red zone. He is reluctant to use the transfer portal to improve key positions and this goes back to his commitment to his previous recruits but in today's highly competitive environment it puts the team at a bit of a disadvantage. Agree with your assessment.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
SEC Champions....
27 - 24 victory over the Georgia Bulldogs.
8)
Big time shake up! Alabama! YH is smiling!
Playoff picture is getting very interesting!
ROOOOOLLLLL TIIIIIDE!!!!
This is not a repeated post....but.....
Roll Tide!!!!
From the early loss and tepid wins, folks calling for Sabans head to conference champ and knocking off number 1. Helluva ride.
JMU is going to its first bowl game ever. The Coach celebrates by bolting for Indiana University and the Big Ten. He is also taking three coaches with him. And then our QB says he is entering the transfer portal. I think the knucklehead believes he is NFL caliber and needs another school.
Ain't big time football fun!
Not that I care about college football...
College Playoff Selection Committe standings -
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama
Alabama is in the Playoffs! Yeah Baby.
The BEST four teams made the playoffs.
I'm hoping for a Bama-Texas rematch in Houston January 8th for the Championship!
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
go blue
If we beat No.1 Michigan in the first game, then we will have beaten the #1 ranked team twice in one season.
Then we have a chance to go get some revenge against Texas. If that happens, it would be epic.
We will see, but wow, the dominos are lined up sweet for an incredible opportunity to run the table.
TEXAS, will do it again. (I hope)
Quote from: Texas Ranger on December 04, 2023, 11:20:48 AM
TEXAS, will do it again. (I hope)
Didn't do it last year and I'm looking for a repeat. 7 win sark is in uncharted waters here.
all i have to say is that alabama does not belong,,,,,, florida st should be there,, thats all
You may be right but everyone is scared to play Alabama. Like them or not it's a fact
I don't know if everyone is scared to play Bama, why would Texas be scared of Bama?
The transfer portal and NIL have robbed the SEC of their greatest strength, really deep rosters. I think going forward you'll be lucky if you see teams as stacked as the last Georgia champs.
I guess it would have been better to say nobody in the playoffs would have been thrilled for their first game to play Bama. Groans from the Michigan camp
In my opinion, the four best teams right now are the ones that nobody wants to play right now, and thats' Ga, Alabama, Michigan and Texas. On the hand, if I was any championship level team, and I had a game against an excellent undefeated team (Florida State) that now is forced to use a third string QB, I would be salivating. Realistically, what are the odds of Florida State actually wining the National Championship using a third string QB? It's is pretty low, nothing against the guy, but he will have his chance to prove himself when they play Ga. If they win that game, then, yes he is a stud, because I still believe Ga is the #1 team right now. NOBODY wants to play them.
Murry, former Ga QB and star on national news summed it up this way "You have a 12-1 Alabama football team that just won the SEC, that beat the No. 1 team in the country – that team had 29 straight wins, back-to-back national champs," Murray said. "Your only loss is to the No. 3 team in the country in Texas. That is an incredible argument. The only thing against Alabama is you lost to Texas, who is the No. 3 team in the country. That's a pretty solid resume. Florida State, what is your resume? You won a Power 5 Conference."
Either way, this shouldn't be an issue next year.
The problem is you can't predict what will happen. Let's compare fsu and Michigan.
Did you know michigans QB has not even averaged 1 TD pass per game over the last 5? And the FSU D and Mich D are very comparable. Look at what Jayden Daniel's did vs FSU. While FSU may not be favored to win, their D is really good and it's highly unlikely they'd get blown out. After all Michigan lost to TCU last year.
I'll use my own UW huskies as an example of the fallacy of predictions. Last year UW was an 11 point dog playing at Oregon and beat em by 3. This year on a neutral field we were a 10 point dog and won by three, and really were in control of 90% of the game.
Im not sure fsu would be more of an underdog than UW was vs UO no matter who they play. They also will have their #2 QB who was out in concussion protocol. He is an average QB. Greg Mcilroy won a title for Pete's sake. Great QBs aren't necessary if you have a good team surrounding them, which FSU does.
Let's not forget Bama barely beat an auburn team that was smashed by New Mexico and UGA, who I agree is the most talented team, only beat GT by 8. There really isn't an all time great team this year like there was last year and any of the teams in the playoff can win it.
NOOOOOOO!!!!!
I wish I owned a liquor store in Alabama right now. Bama fans crying. Auburn fans celebrating.
How would you like to be an NCAA football coach with no stability in your team?
They need to fix the portal system.
Legends have to retire, Alabama is lucky to have had two in my lifetime. Good luck to you. Hope you don't fall as far as the Husker's football team has.
The coach and winner of this year's college football championship was suspended for several games for cheating, yet he and his team gets to compete in bowl games for this year. That wasn't much of a penalty, was it? "Cheaters never prosper" except in college football.
The NIL is paying players.
The portal lets players change teams as the wind blows, there is no continuity or loyalty. As a coach trains a player to get better, they can leave and not get penalized. There is no "Non Compete" clause like in the business world. College football is big business, but not constrained like one.
College players are about to be paid big salaries.
It will be total chaos to a college football programs unless the rules get changed, and the players will have control over the programs.
Even pro football will have more player controls than college football.
Saban bought a $16 million dollar house in Tiger Wood's neighborhood, on the beach last year. I guess that was a hint...
yes, there are grad students doing lifesaving research, and they are barely paid, and that is for teaching labs and such to undergrad students. Do away with college sports, the big ones have lost all benefits for the athletes and student body. they are just professional sports played in a college arena. Used to be to give students something to do on the weekends. and bring everyone together. Gen z has little interest in sports.
I do follow some college and prof. sports. It should still be athletes are hero's and set examples for others. Just after I left KU, the football players were gang beating guys outside of bars, and basketball players budded in line to pay parking tickets that had to be paid in order to get classes for the upcoming semester. The line was hundreds long, two wide out the doors of Hoch auditorium and two blocks down the sidewalk. They shoved between the lines, threw down a note, and said loudly "coach says we don't have to wait in no line". At community college they took ballet classes (stretching and balance) to get gpa up. no other non-athlete students allowed. I miss the days of the coach telling you to "get a haircut" when needed, and to wear a tie on game days. yes sir, no sir... otherwise, good riddance!
Just heard of a college football player getting over $7 million to play football. What?? NCAA has lost all semblance of control, appears.
I'm in full agreement with the fact that the NCAA has ruined the amateur aspect of college sports.Due to the insane increase in media (TV) revenue and that with NIL the players are more or less semi-pro paid athletes. The transfer portal really broke the back of the sport though. Trying to manage a roster never knowing how many skilled players who you've helped coach and educate will be around twice a year when the portal opens is ridiculous. I don't see the NCAA ever admitting their egregious errors though so there's no going back. We're probably going to end up with the same system that MLB has with a minor league of paid athletes.
A crying shame!
Back in 2012, Cardale Jones, qb for Ohio State, posted "We should have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come here to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS". It was pretty well known that there were a lot of incentives for players that other students didn't get. I remember seeing pictures of Alabama players with some pretty nice cars. Miami also had some millionaire giving parties on his yacht. It seems that the NIL has been around for a long time, now its legal.
I remember reading about a study that looked at why professional hockey players were born disproportionately in the early months of the year. I believe it was a Canadian study. It turns out that it is the way the kids are brought up. They are divided by age class. Those that are born in January are nearly a year older than those born in December. They're bigger and stronger than the younger ones and get more playing time, as the main goal of a team sport is to win. You do that with your best players.
Put that into football, and you'll probably get the same results. But, recruiting comes with a star system. Those stars go out to the best performing players in high school football. Coaches and fans try to get the best players for their team. NIL comes into play at this point.
But the star system is a bust when you consider high school players in rural areas that can't hardly field a team. Some really good players will be overlooked because of where they live. More stars go to those in major metropolitan areas than in the rural areas because there is no press coverage. 5 star players are a bust when they come up to comparable competition. Penn State's 5 star qb is ranked 80th in country. Fans slobbered over his potential, which never has come out on the field. But, they fear he might go to another school, so they pander to him. Lots of schools have players like this. Cardale Jones was one of them.
But, there are some schools that fare really well with 2 and 3 star players. Nebraska did well, as did Boise State, BYU and other schools that have a rough time competing with the more elite recruiting schools. NIL may make them competitive, especially finding a highly ranked player that isn't playing at a highly ranked school. That's where the portal comes in.
The portal is a way for those players that have reached their ceiling in playing time. A lot of those end up going to a lower level school where they can get playing time. Others will jump to a team in need of their skills. But, the NIL will lure really good players to other teams.
I think the best way to handle NIL is to put the money in escrow, and is payable at graduation. It will bring the graduation rate up and make them actual student-athletes. The portal should only be available after the season is over. Having one in December hurts the bowl games. Same goes for the coaches leaving in mid-December.
College football ain't the same as it was when I was in school.
If I was a star athlete or coach it would be hard not to take the carrot. The money makes no sense to me. they are paid like entertainers. I bet T Swift makes more than T Kelce. :)
I really do not "do" football at any level but I had a VERY good tailgunner this week that stands 6' 7" tall and is an offensive linebacker for Mississippi State. Very smart, considerate, and operated the skidsteer with a velvet touch. thumbs-up
He also played First Base on Marty's baseball team. Luke was the Shortstop. ;D
Those offensive linebackers are tough dudes!
I was acquainted with Buckey Scribner a punter at KU and was actually friends with his girlfriend who was a student and bar tender at Johnnies in north Lawrence. He was great, and not offended by her having guy friends. There are many great athletes who are also great humans. just takes a few to ruin it. That is the point, is it is supposed to be character building, not ego building.
Quote from: Tom King on January 12, 2024, 12:26:01 PM
Those offensive linebackers are tough dudes!
I'm out of touch, what exactly is an "offensive linebacker" Inquiring minds want to know :D
I chuckled when I read the above 'cause I really don't know either. I think that his job is to protect the Quarterback who has the ball and not let anyone get to him.
Quote from: JD Guy on January 12, 2024, 01:19:36 PM
I'm out of touch, what exactly is an "offensive linebacker" Inquiring minds want to know :D
I am pretty sure it's a linebacker with a passive/aggressive streak. Of course, I still don't know what a linebacker is or does. ;D
He prob. shakes your hand and says, "yes those pants make your wife's ash look big"! :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :o :o :o :)
Even linebackers can be offensive. :snowball:
The position of offensive linebacker was pioneered by the great Dick Butkus. Many players were offended by his treatment of them.
go blue ,,,,,,, 15-0 ,,,,,, national champs , blew everyone out of the water,,,
Offensive linebacker = Fullback lol
NIL and transfer portal just makes the players like the coaches. Coaches get paid tons and can quit and go to a new job anytime, players can do the same now.
There's a good article about 10 years ago about a southern football bagman. Good description on how they'd get money to players and all that while staying out of the NCAA crosshairs.
Hugh Mcilhenny, former RB at UW and hall of famer claimed he made more money in college than the pros. This was the 50's though and lots has changed since then.
these players are supposed to be "college students", and do not have jobs. If they do, it is work-study and designed to get them through a college they might not otherwise be able attend or afford.