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Title: Back supports
Post by: rooster 58 on June 22, 2014, 01:17:58 PM
        Well I was doing well. I have used the '70 for a little over a year without hitting the back supports with the blade.
     And I still haven't. But yesterday, while sawing some hemlock, I "shined" the top of the front one with the blade ;D
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: goose63 on June 22, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
Keep wax on it and it will stay shiny  :D
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Sixacresand on June 22, 2014, 01:29:59 PM
We all do it.  With esperience I do it do it less often, but it still happens.  The hardest part, and time consuming, is getting the blade out of the log once it is dulled.   
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Magicman on June 22, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
It just dulled and took the set out of the lower teeth.  Just flip it over... :D  And by the way, "shined" counts as a hit in my book.  ;D  Welcome to the infamous club.  :P
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 22, 2014, 03:58:29 PM
Magicman, what about shined, but not dulled? :D I had my second mill hit a couple of months ago and caught the top of the roller bolt on the backstop. I'm pretty sure I hit it, (heard something strange as I went by it) but it did not dull the band. 8)
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: scully on June 22, 2014, 07:25:36 PM
I've shined and crashed hard ! It's all good !
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: drobertson on June 22, 2014, 07:29:34 PM
getting greedy with the backs is a good way of hitting them.  But will admit! even today, got so close, after getting off the strip, man it was close!  it happens, and will continue to get your attention,
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: bandmiller2 on June 22, 2014, 08:04:27 PM
There are two kinds of sawyers the ones that have hit a backstop and the ones that lie about it, I'am no liar.  Frank C.
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Magicman on June 22, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
Don't forget the log clamp.  Sometimes the factory puts too much paint on them too.   ;D
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: YellowHammer on June 22, 2014, 09:56:06 PM
Quote from: Magicman on June 22, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
Don't forget the log clamp.  Sometimes the factory puts too much paint on them too.   ;D
Yep, if they wouldn't put it on so thick, I wouldn't have to thin it down.. ;D
YH
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Don_Papenburg on June 22, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
You guys in the Shiners club ,have them little cars  ?  could you be available for our 4th of July parade?
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: thecfarm on June 22, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
Ayup,I'm available July 4th,  :D  But I was edging and was sawing 6 inches and for some dumb reason thought 4 would be better. It was better for about 3 feet.  ::)  No reason to hit mine now. Mine are manaul and go straight up and down. I have inches marked on them. But when someone thinks a 4 inch board is better than a 6 inch board.....................
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: backwoods sawyer on June 23, 2014, 12:46:46 AM
Got to say Little Jo has been sawing for over a year and knock on wood she has not hit the mill yet ;) she lets me make those cuts ::)
The other day she had a near miss cleaned the pile of sawdust off the clamp at full speed cutting 2x6, we had set a good pace in the morning and kept it up all day sawing over 50 small logs in seven hours. 
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: rooster 58 on June 23, 2014, 06:45:20 AM
     Magicman, I agree. A hit is a hit. I was able to saw another half dozen or so loogs after that. Until I hit a big gnarly one with alot of knots. Hemlock knots are mean critters, especially in these 2 yr. old logs ;)
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Magicman on June 23, 2014, 07:34:37 AM
I prolly should not say this but it has been years since I hit the sawmill,  :-X but leaving the toe board up.....not so long.  :-\
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: John S on June 23, 2014, 10:48:53 AM
I did it again on my first job this year in April, just a shine, but definitely a hit.  MM, I am also guilty of making Paul Bunyan sized door stops by forgetting to lower a toe board roller.
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: drobertson on June 23, 2014, 06:05:08 PM
Toe rollers! this has to be another thread! ;D  they will eat your lunch,  ;D  speed has always been a killer ;D
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Magicman on June 23, 2014, 07:29:01 PM
I had my off bearers cringing today.  I knew that I had ~2" above the clamp and was taking 1½".    Neither of them realized that I knew where I was so they were waving to get me stopped.   :D

Of course I did stop out of respect for their concern.  Off bearers that care and pay attention are seldom found.
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: bandmiller2 on June 23, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
My band will clear 12" with the backstops up, before I go lower I always glance at the lever on the front of the mill to be sure their down. Frank C.
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Delawhere Jack on June 23, 2014, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Magicman on June 23, 2014, 07:29:01 PM
I had my off bearers cringing today.  I knew that I had ~2" above the clamp and was taking 1½".    Neither of them realized that I knew where I was so they were waving to get me stopped.   :D

Of course I did stop out of respect for their concern.  Off bearers that care and pay attention are seldom found.

Off bearers have spared me the embarrassment of striking metal twice. Funny thing is both times they were really young, 15-16 year olds. I'll gladly work with them any time.  ;)
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Magicman on June 23, 2014, 10:05:02 PM
Both of these are 17, and very conscientious workers.   8)
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: thecfarm on June 23, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
Magicman,not many around like that,no matter what age.
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: 5quarter on June 24, 2014, 01:04:14 AM
I used to have an old fella that would come by the shop about every other day to criticize whatever I was doing Visit with me. One day he was watching me saw. Between cuts, he hollered that my back post thing was up too high. I glanced at the first backstop and hollered back that it was fine. About 7 feet later I hit the second back stop and shredded my blade. He could have just kept quiet, but no. He was compelled to tell me that if I knew what I was doing, He wouldn't have to point these things out, etc...etc...needless to say, slamming my thumb in a car door would have been more enjoyable than listening to him explain what a bonehead I was.
Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Lonely Sawer on June 24, 2014, 07:06:19 AM
It happens. I had a buddy stop by to see my mill. So I let him cut some boards and to my suprise ,

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Title: Re: Back supports
Post by: Chuck White on June 24, 2014, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: thecfarm on June 23, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
Magicman,not many around like that,no matter what age.

Correct, as a matter of fact I have an 18 year old grandson who was helping when I sawed for my son.

Well, I had some edging to do and had been going down to 6" for 2x6's, but one needed to be trimmed to 4" and I forgot to lower to flapper clamp, so my Grandson steps over to the side to "WATCH" the impact.

I realized the situation when I was about a foot from the clamp, at that point, I stopped and educated "said" Grandson!

My blade will clear the clamp at 5½ inches and will clear the stops at 11½ inches.