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Started by DonT, April 07, 2016, 11:23:12 PM

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Grandedog

     Howdy,
   By tilting the vise you're orienting the grinding profile more with the inside corner / outside corner line of the tooth. When grinding with 0 tilt, the geometry of the profile is more in line with the side plate of the tooth. The trade off remains the same, the sharper you make it the easier it is to dull. If you're in clean green softwood, the payoff is noticeable. With dirty dry hardwood not so much. When your talking about chipper, semi-chisel, or micro-chisel and tilting the head. There's not much advantage because you're only going from a spoon shape profile to a slightly more pointed spoon shape profile. Whether it's a square, or rounded tooth, it's efficiency is dependent
on the corner formed between the top plate, and side plate. The reason rounded tooth stays sharper longer is because of the length of the edge between the top and side plate. So realistically with the rounded tooth you have much more edge to dull before it's efficiency diminishes. With a square tooth, once you dull the point, efficiency diminishes pretty fast. 
Regards
Gregg
Gregg Grande
Left Coast Supplies LLC
1615B South Main Street  Willits, CA 95490
888-995-7307  Ph 707-602-0141                   Fax 707-602-0134  Cell 707-354-3212
E-Mail  gregg@leftcoastsupplies.com   www.leftcoastsupplies.com

terrifictimbersllc

Quote from: Grandedog on April 22, 2016, 05:22:39 PM
     Howdy,
   By tilting the head you're orienting the grinding profile more with the inside corner / outside corner line of the tooth. When grinding with 0 tilt, the geometry of the profile is more in line with the side plate of the tooth. The trade off remains the same, the sharper you make it the easier it is to dull. If you're in clean green softwood, the payoff is noticeable. With dirty dry hardwood not so much. When your talking about chipper, semi-chisel, or micro-chisel and tilting the head. There's not much advantage because you're only going from a spoon shape profile to a slightly more pointed spoon shape profile. Whether it's a square, or rounded tooth, it's efficiency is dependent
on the corner formed between the top plate, and side plate. The reason rounded tooth stays sharper longer is because of the length of the edge between the top and side plate. So realistically with the rounded tooth you have much more edge to dull before it's efficiency diminishes. With a square tooth, once you dull the point, efficiency diminishes pretty fast. 
Regards
Gregg
Did you mean "by tilting the chain" ?  That's what I thought the discussion about the 10 degree adjustment was referring to.
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

Grandedog

     Howdy,
   Yes, I meant to say by tilting the vise.
Regards
Gregg
Gregg Grande
Left Coast Supplies LLC
1615B South Main Street  Willits, CA 95490
888-995-7307  Ph 707-602-0141                   Fax 707-602-0134  Cell 707-354-3212
E-Mail  gregg@leftcoastsupplies.com   www.leftcoastsupplies.com

HolmenTree

Also called "offset grinding".
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

OH logger

does anyone run diamond wheels in their grinders or just the regular ones??
john

terrifictimbersllc

I use the ABN "cyclone" wheel from Bailey's for several years now to grind all my 404 and 375 chain saw and slabber chains.
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

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