592XP and 585 Huskys

[ehp]

I have not seen any problems with the autotune , the 572 is every bit as good as the stihl 462 and some will not agree with me but the 2 of the 572's I had I honestly felt made a bit more torque than the 462 

[snobdds]

I just saw the official release video from Husqvarna for the 592 and 585.   I would post it here, but it seems like that is a big no go here. Just go to the Husky youtube channel.

The 585 seems to be non autotune and fully adjustable carb.  The 592 is gen III autotune, I don't know much about the gen III, hope it better than the prior versions.

I think the forrest service is not buying any type of auto tune or mtronic saws.  They have had too many hot start problems, and fires lines are hot.  That is why Stihl had to make a 661 in non mtronic and the 585 seems to be the main competitor for that saw.

I'm not a husky guy, but they look to be solid saws.

[Real1shepherd]

Squeal had the well known issue with the gas gap release spraying fuel onto forest fire fighters. For yrs the fire fighters would not buy Stihl saws.

I don't know how you recover from over-engineered stupidly like that, but apparently they have if forest fire fighters are buying Stihl again.

Kevin

[Spike60]

Also, some of these saws go to markets where they may not even have electricity, let alone computers to plug them into. Despite the "green" images that both companies like to project to the EU and North American markets, they both still build older saws where the regulations allow them to still be sold. Husky is still building original 372's, 272's and 288's in Brazil and Stihl also builds some old models somewhere.

Yes, I'd love to be able to order from the Brazil warehouse.

[Tacotodd]

I just saw the official release video from Husqvarna for the 592 and 585.   I would post it here, but it seems like that is a big no go here. Just go to the Husky youtube channel.

The 585 seems to be non autotune and fully adjustable carb.  The 592 is gen III autotune, I don't know much about the gen III, hope it better than the prior versions.

I think the forrest service is not buying any type of auto tune or mtronic saws.  They have had too many hot start problems, and fires lines are hot.  That is why Stihl had to make a 661 in non mtronic and the 585 seems to be the main competitor for that saw.

I'm not a husky guy, but they look to be solid saws.

Regarding the 585, wouldn’t it be a 385 as opposed to the a 585? I thought that all 5 series were autotune.

[snobdds]

I just saw the official release video from Husqvarna for the 592 and 585.   I would post it here, but it seems like that is a big no go here. Just go to the Husky youtube channel.

The 585 seems to be non autotune and fully adjustable carb.  The 592 is gen III autotune, I don't know much about the gen III, hope it better than the prior versions.

I think the forrest service is not buying any type of auto tune or mtronic saws.  They have had too many hot start problems, and fires lines are hot.  That is why Stihl had to make a 661 in non mtronic and the 585 seems to be the main competitor for that saw.

I'm not a husky guy, but they look to be solid saws.

Regarding the 585, wouldn’t it be a 385 as opposed to the a 585? I thought that all 5 series were autotune.

It's 585.  You can read about it here.  
Best Pro Chainsaws, Legendary Gas & Battery Powered Saws | Husqvarna US
Notice the 592 specifically lists autotune as a feature, and the 585 does not.  In one of the pictures, you can see the carb adjusters on the flywheel side of the saw. 

[ehp]

Spike sense you are a person that has seen and I believe ran the 592 . How does it compare to the 395 . Weight and power . I got guys here looking at waiting for the 592 and I have never even seen one . How soon are you to guy them . Husky up here is having something on about the 592 and 585 tomorrow.  

[Spike60]

I had a couple test units and they do run strong. Has a nasty snarl to it also. Pretty impressive saw; and it does out cut the 395. Mine were both G models, so there was that additional weight, but either way the weight is on par with the 395. She's not a lightweight. 

There's a webinar on them tomorrow, but I'm going to miss it. I dug into them a little when I had them. At first glance it looks like a big 572, but a closer look shows that they did a lot of stuff differently. The no-baffle stainless steel muffler is why it has the bark it does. The mounts are interesting. Try to see what they did with the rear mount over the gas cap. It's vertical as on the 395 and there's a thin steel cable for a movement limiter. No harder to work on than the rest of the line. I did carb swaps on them because they switched to that "run on choke" start feature during the test. 

When? Just throw a dart at the calendar.    March would be a guess for us in the US, but it's been a long time since any forecast date has been anywhere close to accurate. They shipped me three 395's today that have been on backorder since January 21. 395's were supposed to go away, but will be hanging around for another year just as an extra model in the line up to help meet demand.

[ehp]

Thanks Spike . We will have to see when they release them and try a couple of them . I know the 1 guy wants to put it on a mill

[Spike60]

Good stuff from the webinar. Even the 89cc 585 has more rated power than the 395.   

Weight is supposed to be a pound lighter than the 395, so my feeling on the 592XPG being a little heavy makes sense. 

Price spread between the 585 and 592 is $100. 592-24" comes in at $1369 MSRP; $90 more than the 395. 

Numbers are live and I put an order in the system. Forecast ship date is 2 weeks from today, but I'm sure that's BS. 

Thing to keep in mind is that different bar length SKU's all have different ship dates. They intend to ship these saws with the new Swedish made X-tough bars, and they do have the 24's, so ya never know what the FedEx truck might show up with. 

[barbender]

Cool. Might have to be my next toy tool to with my 390xp that I haven't started since last fall😁

[Real1shepherd]

Good stuff from the webinar. Even the 89cc 585 has more rated power than the 395.  

Weight is supposed to be a pound lighter than the 395, so my feeling on the 592XPG being a little heavy makes sense.

Price spread between the 585 and 592 is $100. 592-24" comes in at $1369 MSRP; $90 more than the 395.

Numbers are live and I put an order in the system. Forecast ship date is 2 weeks from today, but I'm sure that's BS.  

Thing to keep in mind is that different bar length SKU's all have different ship dates. They intend to ship these saws with the new Swedish made X-tough bars, and they do have the 24's, so ya never know what the FedEx truck might show up with.  

Bob, for pro saws like that, is it still possible to buy just the power head, or is that frowned upon because you're not selling the usual accessories that way?

Kevin

[Spike60]

It's not so much about missing the sale of a B&C; it's about shipping every saw with an "approved" B&C combo. (Like safety chain on the homeowner saws). Therefore every saw must be ordered with a bar and chain. In the case of these new saws, there's a lot of SKU's to pick from. 20"-36" in a mix of .050, .058, .063.  Not a big deal for me as we need the bars. (more on that in a minute)

I'll sell them however the customer wants it, including PHO. We always ask how a guy would like the saw set up. We'll switch the 545 and 550 to 3/8 for guys that don't want .325. (A mistake IMO, but I'm not doing that debate tonight )

The bar and chain thing: There are some bar shortages that haven't fully reared their head yet. I've had 20" Oregon bars on backorder from my main supplier since April. Been getting them from other places. Tried 3 different Oregon distributors last week on 28" .058's and all 3 were out of stock; so ordered them from Husky. We're talking Powermatch bars here, not any of the lam bars. We stay on top of it. Might not have every option, but we will have something fit a guys saw. Certain chains are out. Ordered a case of the 18" TXL speed cut and they didn't even have a full case. Things should get back to normal in a few months. Unless...........if there's a serious hurricane anywhere it's all gonna blow up.

[ehp]

Spike time will tell, I heard today that one of the big husky dealers way out west is suppose to get some of the 592's cause the guys want them to do all the fire cutting where it got burnt this year or is still burning 

[ehp]

So the list price up here is about the same as the 500i . Maybe a couple bucks more but no real true date on when to see the saws

[Spike60]

Perhaps like the guy out west, I was "supposed" to get some next week.But the date is flipping and new oders entered say both saws are not available for shipment until Jan 11. Prices here seem to have settled in at $100 more than the 395's.

That bar shortage you and I have been talking about here is close to being a lot more than web gossip. I found a supply of 20's in .050, but have otherwise been loading up on the power match knockoffs that are out there. My main 3 sources of Oregon bars are OUT of large mount 20's, 24's, and 28's in both .050 and .058. There are a few 095 small mounts to be had. No problems on any of the .325 stuff.

Scratching my head on how to run with this. Feel like I have to give my regulars a heads up about this stuff. But at the same time, I can't let them buy a lot of extra bars for themselves and draw down the inventory that much faster. I pulled all of the Husky labeled power match 20's and 24's off the shelf to reserve them for the new saws. I had less bars than powerheads!

[ehp]

Spike, I know alot of guys are saying BS to there being a shortage but I'm telling you in my area there is nothing in much of anything as far as Husky or stihl in saws, bars ans chain and even files. WE got alot of dealers here with bare shelves. I know even my GM dealer guy just told me that he is having a very hard time getting parts for the newer trucks and stuff . Its going to get worse before it gets better . Even the big hunting stores here are limiting people to 2 boxes of ammo now. My husky dealer figures maybe March to see a 592 

[ehp]

you got to keep enough bars to your number of powerheads 

[Spike60]

you got to keep enough bars to your number of powerheads

Yeah, I normally would never get upside down like that. Got all these backorders out there and you figure that at some point, they will start showing up. But I did get those 20" 009's from that place that had some old stock. Older sleeve and graphics, so they've been around a while. 

[Tacotodd]

@Spike60 it’s better than nothing