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Started by woodmills1, October 29, 2008, 07:33:42 PM

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woodmills1

I have not seen the tree yet but no one at the job site can name it.  Pine like tree with weeping like limbs.  It has soft needles that come from the branches themself, and a very red heart.  I will pick up the wood tomorrow and post my description with pictures.  Thanks in advance.
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DanG

I know it seems strange to get a possible answer to something like this from an old fart in Florida.  But, given that the describer ain't even seen the tree, and the details of its description are sketchy at best, I guess my guess is as good as anybody's. ;D :D

Actually, I was in Maine a few years ago, visiting a friend, and he had a tree in his yard that was much like what you describe.  I asked about it, and he said it was a "Weeping Hackmatack."  I understand that this is like some sort of a Larch-like tree.
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WDH

I am with DanG.  I think that it must be a Weeping Hackmatack ;D.
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thecfarm

The needles on my Hackmatack are yellow now and dropping off.I don't remember the red heart.I'm cutting mine for fire wood.Still clearing the grown up pasture.
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SwampDonkey

Japanese Larch is my guess. However, wild tamarack , or what Dang called it, is white as spruce, unless fast grown when it tends to turn red in the heart. Western larch is always reddish brown or rust brown heart. So with all that, without seeing it, I have to conclude it's a larch, species unknown. ;D
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woodmills1

It turns out the next door neighbor is keeping it for firewood, but I have to go to the bank in the same town later today so I put the batteries for my camera into the charger and will drive by for a picture so we can have some real facts on this hackmatack attack
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

SwampDonkey

Tamarack, aka eastern larch, is certainly native to NH.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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Dodgy Loner

I don't suppose y'all have deodar cedars up there, do you?  If the tree was down south that would be my first guess, but up in New Hampshire Larix spp. is probably a safer bet.
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WDH

It might be a previously undescribed, newly discovered species of hackmatack.  If so, we could name it Hackmatack dangit :D
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woodmills1

ok here are some shots, and except for the wide red heart I am going with plain old hemlock.  If it is how could the tree guys miss that?




















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SwampDonkey

Looks like Japanese larch to me. I cut one down in the yard last spring after the dang nabbed sap suckers destroyed it.  >:(
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Lanier_Lurker

That bark does not look like hemlock - and I saw a bunch of them last weekend in NE Georgia.

SwampDonkey

I see larch twigs with short shoots and larch needles attached to some of the sticks. Looks like Japanese larch  bark to. Gotta give the tree guys a little more credit I thinks. ;) :D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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woodmills1

James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

DanG

Hackmatack, did I mention hackmatack? :D
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"Beat not thy sword into a plowshare, rather beat the sword of thine enemy into a plowshare."

Gary_C

DanG I thought you made that name up till I found that nickname under Tamarack, Eastern Larch, or Larix laricina. I like Hackmatack better and that is my guess too.
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SwampDonkey

NO, he never made it up. It's a common name in some areas up here.  :) Hackmatack bark is more spruce like on small sticks and you often find a spiral twist to the trunk, not flaky like Japanese.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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woodmills1

doesnt the hackmatack lose its leaves?
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

SwampDonkey

Yes, but not yet. They are still on trees here.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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SwampDonkey



tamarack, hackmatack




Japanese larch, two split chunks (side by side) from a sap sucker killed yard tree.

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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Dodgy Loner

"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey." -John Ruskin

Any idiot can write a woodworking blog. Here's mine.

woodmills1

James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

Dodgy Loner

It does look a lot like a hemlock, but the needles of a hemlock come out from the twig in one plane, like a feather.  In your pictures, you can see that the needles come out from the twig in all directions.
"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey." -John Ruskin

Any idiot can write a woodworking blog. Here's mine.

woodmills1

still no answer and I don't have the logs.
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

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