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The Hardwood Island Trail
« on: July 19, 2021, 07:52:19 AM »
This is what we achieved after having a Forestry Mulcher working on our Upper Peninsula property. The mulcher goes first, then we come behind with the side by side and brush hog for cleanup. I'll be raking the trails soon to remove woody debris, and then plant something in all these areas for ground cover and wildlife.
Does anyone have a recommendation on a fall planting?



This was the video I was making that resulted in the fun video Placing and Chasing


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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2021, 08:17:12 AM »
I caught the "place and chase' yesterday when the bell went off. This was the one I was waiting for. Any idea how many linear feet of trails you cleaned up or created? Seems like an awful lot! That pond area looks great.
 It's a lot of work, but I envy you guys to have a place like that. Enjoy it.
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2021, 09:06:20 AM »
We are making a pre pigroast run up there for just a couple days. Jeremy is going to fly the drone. Although I cant use the footage for a general release video, we hope to get an idea of clearing more property towards the pond that Lynda wants to possibly do.  Ill try to make a point of walking the trails with the fitbit to get an approximation.  Its gotta be well over a mile
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2021, 09:36:50 AM »
Not far!! A mile of trails and I saw only one rock at 4:30. At my place go 29 feet and there is 5 rocks!! I straddle many rocks on my land.
That sure does look good!!! There will be many limbs coming in for the light. That will give you something to do in your spare time.
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2021, 09:47:24 AM »
Id plant legumes as a first crop to start improving nitrogen and PH for good tilth and aeriation going into the future.  Will help build your soil to support diverse future plant species for diverse wildlife attractant. Wildflowers and stuff to keep the polinators and songbirds.  


Several types of clover, hairy vetch.  Id probably toss out some brassicas too for fall. Maybe some type of a lettuce seed like buttercrunch, and some high protein cool season root vegetables with greens for now and bulbs for winter. like chicory, radish, turnip, rutabega.  Those will all provides high protein greens going into winter, leave some bulbs to dig for in the dead of winter and then clovers and lettuce will green up immediately in spring providing critical relief to the starving survivors.

In early summer it will set seed and die off.  If you then continually RUN IT OVER with the tractor until flattened into a mat like a crop circle  you will have a new perennial crop every fall.  The tires work the seed into slightly disturbed soil and the mat protects it from birds, sun scald and moisture loss, mulching into the top soil as it breaks down.    

One bag of cool season foodplot mix will contain all these goodies but at a premium price.   i would buy a pound or two each of several clovers at your local ag co-op as the bulk of initial greenup and lightly sprinkle a food plot bag into that, really stretching it out if necessary. The first stems will be like your seed trees for thickening up the following seasons.

Clover is extremely small so it goes very far despite seeming expensive per pound compared to other seed.  And they are all prolific seeders so each season it will multiply itself dramatically.  In a few years itll be a saladbar that supresses woody regen.  


You put enough of this along your trail borders and youll have does that almost never leave your sanctuary. Bucks obviously like to visit the does dorm when love is in the air.  I find bendy forage trails through forested areas,  lined with food around blind turns, get waaay more use than open food plot fields.  Nothing is comfortable in the open during rifle season.

 Some fawns will make a life roughly where theyre raised, and thick, grassy regen areas with many trails and short distance views really attract momma at fawning time.  I have one or two holding tight every summer just past the back gate.  We bump them all the time.   A mineral site will really draw them in as the antlers drop and embyos grow so be sure thats in place for when they need it most.  The mineral and water control their movements more than food. I place the mineral and water apart with a browse trail in between that passes a stands line of site.  They wont really use the mineral much in hunting season but all year theyve gotten used to using a core trail that suits you and it will become a seekers highway.


Im happy for ya jeff.  Have fun with it buddy.  smiley_thumbsup
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2021, 10:27:00 AM »
Mike covered it pretty good..
My intitial thought was turnips and rye seeded probably  1st of August ish up there. It's pretty cheap. Then you could throw clover and the other out in food plot areas. A mitten seed house would be a good place to start.  A such and such forage and turf...

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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2021, 11:50:24 AM »
I am a big fan of Jeff Sturgis (Whitetail Habitat Solutions)  who has many hundreds of videos on Youtube. He has been a "Yooper" earlier in his life so he understands the area. First of all you need a soil sample. Take about 6 different samples per plot and have a Farmers Co-op let you know what you need for Lime and Fertilizer. The first year is the hardest to get it to grow. You will have to spray it (Glyphosate) 2-3 times before you can plant to get a complete kill on the grasses and weeds. The typical plot would include Peas, Soybeans, and Oats on one side and Brassica's (Forage Radish, Turnip, Kale, and Rape) on the other half. Then in September you can throw 150lbs / acre of Winter Rye over the Non-Brassica side to fill it in.  Each Spring and Fall you can do a No-Till and improve your soil each year. This gives them food all the way from October through December...I also get my seed from the Co-op as many of the flashy packages in the store aren't what you want.  They have a lot of inert matter (not seed) and plants that aren't going to benefit you or the deer. I will be happy to talk about it with you at the Pig Roast. 

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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2021, 12:58:23 PM »
I've got a soil sampling kit coming in the mail. I've aquired a 3pt rake and plan on going up for a quick trip this week to rake what woody debris I can out of the mulched areas nothing really to round up on the trails yet as there aint no green to speak of. Really the only soil prep tool I have is the rake.
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2021, 04:37:51 PM »
Crazy. Ordered Saturday here today.


 

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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2021, 04:54:45 PM »
Iím guessing itís around 5.5 or a little lower. 

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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2021, 05:00:07 PM »
Much of it used to be farm land, so I'm not wagering anything on where it might be, But Id think acid for sure. But then again we are in big time limestone country. I think from some parts of the property to another, there could be big differences.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2021, 05:07:42 PM »
Interesting. Limestone could certainly be a factor. Leaf litter, etc. probably dictates the top 6-12Ē. Testing tells the story. Itíll be interesting to see how much variation you get over the whole place. 
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2021, 09:13:06 AM »
Thought Id throw this out now for yíalls consideration on where to go. We are off to do pigroast shopping today.





 
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2021, 11:19:37 AM »
I'm surprised that most are alkaline. You are ready to plant in those plots after you kill off any weeds...The Roundabout will need some lime. 

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2021, 12:37:48 PM »
I bet it is because of all the area limestone. Im going to do again with distilled water just to be sure.

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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2021, 01:47:11 PM »
Not far!! A mile of trails and I saw only one rock at 4:30. At my place go 29 feet and there is 5 rocks!! I straddle many rocks on my land.
That sure does look good!!! There will be many limbs coming in for the light. That will give you something to do in your spare time.
You and your darn stones lol 
With all the stone haulin you do out in yer woods you would of been a key player in the making of the Egyptian pyramids lol lol 

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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2021, 02:32:43 PM »
Not far!! A mile of trails and I saw only one rock at 4:30. At my place go 29 feet and there is 5 rocks!! I straddle many rocks on my land.
That sure does look good!!! There will be many limbs coming in for the light. That will give you something to do in your spare time.
You and your darn stones lol
With all the stone haulin you do out in yer woods you would of been a key player in the making of the Egyptian pyramids lol lol
Yeah I think the same thing every time I see Jeff moving dirt or making holes. We could never dig post holes here the way Jeff can. You need a shale bar to break what you can and likely a hammer drill or an excavator with a hammer on it. Two stones for every dirt. Part of my plot then shelf comes up out of the ground, and at the back edge it is down 2.5' below grade, but all shelf. No fun putting in a septic tank. Took a big excavator with a hammer about 12 hours to cut the hole. AT Least Cfram can dig and move his, here it's all one piece. :D ;D >:(
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Re: The Hardwood Island Trail
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2021, 03:15:27 PM »
You can get a lot done with a Landscape rake.  It will even smooth out dirt fairly well.

We have some rocks in the topsoil, but they're round river rocks not very densely populating the dirt.  I always thought that the last time a glacier pushed through the area, it drug them out of the river.

On our trails, after I got all the sticks out of the way with the landscape rake, I used a 67" tiller behind the tractor.  I tied up the flap on the back, and every rock it hit, it threw it up in the air to land on top.  We just went along with a stall cleaning fork, and threw them off the trail into the woods.  We galloped horses through there, and didn't want them to step on a rock.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2021, 05:53:05 PM »
The rake worked pretty good. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2021, 06:37:45 PM »
Distilled water
  Big difference. Now acid.


 
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