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Started by LeeB, August 02, 2022, 07:16:26 PM

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LeeB

Several of my oaks and many more of them in the surrounding area have had their leaves turn brown in the last few weeks. The change has been just about overnight, or at least it seems that way. We have been suffering the high temps and lack of rain like so many others. My question is; Are these trees dead or will the possibly leaf back out next year? If there's hope I won't harvest them.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

If the bark has gray patches on them, they are toast.  Hopefully, they don't. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

LeeB

Are the gray patches fungal or dead bark?
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

customsawyer

This isn't going to help you much but I have seen them go both directions. Some times they will leaf out again the next year and some will be dead. Unless you need the wood for something I would give them a chance to come back around.
Two LT70s, Nyle L200 kiln, 4 head Pinheiro planer, 30" double surface Cantek planer, Lucas dedicated slabber, Slabmizer, and enough rolling stock and chainsaws to keep it all running.
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WDH

Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

LeeB

I'll check the trees more closely but I don't believe this is the problem.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

beenthere

Oak wilt disease would be my guess, as the symptoms are something I am used to seeing. 

Erratic weather, multiple pathogens may lurk behind ?overnight flagging of oaks?
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

LeeB

I don't believe it's oak wilt. I saw plenty of that before we left Central Texas. There was no initial yellowing of the leaves and the green veins. The branches don't have the dull grey dead coloring of oak wilt. The leaves have gone straight to brown like they had been frost killed. I looked at a tree on the side of the road this morning on my to town and saw no signs of hypoxylon but I didn't study it real close. I will check the trees on my place when it cools off later this evening. 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

beenthere

QuoteThe leaves have gone straight to brown like they had been frost killed.

That is exactly how my oak trees have died the last several years. I will lose one or two in the yard nearly every year. They look fine until mid summer. Suddenly there are many leaves that turn brown and then fall (like it is the fall season, but early). Not a pretty sight, but very little that can be done to save them. Oak wilt has been around for the last 60+ years that I know about in this area of Wisconsin. 
I also am familiar with the yellowing of leaves on trees when they are stressed. That situation hasn't proved to be a death sentence from what I've seen. More related to soil conditions (drought?) and stress.

Hope yours is not the oak wilt. 
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

LeeB

I guess it could be oak wilt but it just doesn't look the same as the oak wilt I have witnessed in Texas. The infestation there was quite heavy and moves slowly from tree to tree, rarely jumply large distances. This all appeared here at one time over a several county area. Oak wilt has been here in the past long before I moved here but has been pretty much inactive for a long time. I would hate for it to be back again. A large part of the trees in the area are oaks. I suppose if it did happen it would put the land back to where it was a century or two ago.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

LeeB

I wish this one time Danny wasn't right but it looks hyphylon is the culprit. I couldn't see the signs of it on the bigger trees but quite a few of the smaller ones are definitely infected.  
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

customsawyer

That drought y'all are in is pretty bad. I came across on I40 last month and there were lots of small fires from cigarettes getting thrown out the window. With that big of a area getting effected and the oak lumber market on the down swing, it could hurt some folks. 
Two LT70s, Nyle L200 kiln, 4 head Pinheiro planer, 30" double surface Cantek planer, Lucas dedicated slabber, Slabmizer, and enough rolling stock and chainsaws to keep it all running.
www.thecustomsawyer.com

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