Echo?

[pabst79]

Anyone have any experience with Echo saws, specifically the CS-800P? I was eyeing one at my local small engine shop, I have been thinking about a new 80cc saw, and 825.00 seems like a good price, if they are durable and have a good power to weight ratio? I bought a commercial grade Echo trimmer head with all the attachments a couple years ago and have been happy with it. Never used one of their saws though  ??? ???.

[mad murdock]

From what I have seen they are well built and way better prices than the 2 most popular brands today. If I was in the market for a new saw, I would look at Echo or Dolmar first. I think there is way more bang for the buck with them.

[pabst79]

That's kinda the issue I have, I've never been a Husky fan and I no longer have a reliable Stihl dealer close by, so I fix all my old saws myself. This local dealer has both the Husky and Echo line, and from what I can tell the Echo's have a much better price point.? I have heard good things about Dolmar, but have never seen a dealer anywhere near me.

[BubbasDad]

We just picked up a used cs440 that i ended up having to put crank seals and bearings in.Due to previous owner over tightening chain. Haven't had much run time yet but was easily repairable. Actually looking into the timber wolf. Its a promo price of around 400$ and think its a about 65cc. Don't quote me on displacement had so many different size saws pass threw my hands lately they all kinda blurred together.

[shinnlinger]

The 400 is $300 and the 590 is $400 at hd.   Not sure I would buy one there if local guy could do similar but a good price on a decent saw for sure.   

[BubbasDad]

I have had real good luck with the guy i deal with. He will go out of his way to help find parts for my other saws( not echo) would never buy a saw from any of the big box stores. Would be like going to cub scouts to buy gir lscout cookies!!

[21incher]

Last year I purchased a cs590 and a cs310 from my local echo dealer and I am extremely happy with both of them. The dealer also sells huskys and told me that the cs590 was his best selling saw. My echo's both are extremely easy starting and covered by a 5 year warranty. Someday I also would like to buy a cs800. I purchased them from a great local dealer that I know will be there to help if any problems should arise in the future. 

[pabst79]

Okay, sounds like a trip to town is in order. 

[thecfarm]

Take a picture of it before getting it dirty.

[pabst79]

Will do, I'm also picking up a new Simplicity zero turn, so I think the dealer should be quite happy with me.  :D.

[samandothers]

I have a smmaler echo for limbing and such 14" bar. Very pleased with it if my larger Stihl died I would consider a larger echo.  I have an echo PAS and several attachments and it has been great too.

[pabst79]

The PAS is what I bought too, I got the blower and rubber gravel paddle attachment for it, both worked great for light snow, hardly used my 2 stage this year!

[CR888]

The 80cc echo model has been around for quite some time and is a proven quality saw, however it does not have the latest technology on it that other brands have which is not necessarily a bad thing either. I have a few echo's and they are certainly well built saws but a little heavier for their displacement compared to the major 2 brands. I have a 550p and a rebadged makita 231t top handle (echo) and the 355t top handle. Easy starting saws that will cut all day with good torque. Sure l would buy another Echo despite in many cases not being the fastest kid on the block. Sawtroll will be in shortly to tell you to stay away from them but l disagree. The 590 timberwolf could we be the 'best value' saw on the market currently.

[BubbasDad]

I agree 100%!! Think timberwolf is gonna be my next saw but dealer says they dont offer a 16" b&c for it.. actually considering selling off my husq 445 just to keep other half off my case a little. Just had to hear the" Dont you have enough saws" when i picked up 031av- well used &026 barely used with new 20" bar and 2 new pro chains for 100. Got saw time in today and running husq 445-16" and echo440 tank for tank pretty even and 440 is turning 20" no prob

[pabst79]

Well the deed is done, but the dealer had to order the CS-800P in, as he was out of stock. So like a kid on Christmas eve, I will have to wait to play with my new toy. 

[Mooseherder]

I bought the cs-590 last summer and I am happy with it.  Here's a picture before it got used. ;)



 



 

[21incher]

Congratulations on your CS800p. I know Echo ships to my dealer over night so you should have it soon. Had my CS-590 out working all day today cutting firewood. After sitting all winter it started on the 3rd pull. It breezed right thru the 20 inch dead ash I was cutting and the vibration isolation is amazing compared to my old Stihl . Let us know how it works out for you.

[pabst79]

Will do, I have to go back into town later this week to pick up a mower, hope the saw will be in then. Do you guys have good luck with the stock chain that comes with? All I've ever had is Stihl stuff, so I will have to stock up on loops, I will also try milling a bit with the 800, have no idea what chain they offer for Echo, I know their bars are unique, not sure about the chain? Its 3/8 and .50 I believe.   

[pabst79]

Got it today, set it between the 075 and 026 for scale, she's a hefty beast, now if it quits raining I can test her out. 

  

 

[21incher]

They sure look pretty when new. What size bar did you get? We are waiting for a review.

[pabst79]

I went with the 27", I think I may get a 20" for it too. I should have time to give it a good test tomorrow.

[sawguy21]

Carlton chain?

[pabst79]

Oregon its got a 25 stamped on some of the links?

 

[Andyshine77]

25 is depth gauge clearance. That's 72lpx Oregon chain. If you want to know the chain pitch, driver size and how many drive links, all that information will be listed the side of the bar. If you decide to pick up a 20" bar and chain. I recommend getting a 72 DL bar and chain combo, it's more common than the shorter 70dl combo Echo uses.     

BTW nice saw!!! Echo products are top of the line in every way.

[mad murdock]

Congrats on the new saw!  Looking good 8)

[pidaster]

I purchased two CS590's over a year ago, both have done great and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

[Corley5]

My local saw shop is an Echo dealer as well as Jonsered and Dolmar.  I've been looking pretty hard at the Echos.  He's got an 800 on the wall that could be had at a reasonable price  :-\  I've got a couple Echo string trimmers and one is the tool with the interchangeable heads.  They've been real good machines getting a real workout trimming in the vineyard.  I've also used one with the chainsaw pruner head quite a bit around the farm.  I haven't found anything wrong with Echo equipment.

[pabst79]

So I gave the 800 a good test, I sawed a few cookies out of a 16" dia poplar log. The 800 did it on average in 10.7 seconds, my 048 in 17 seconds and my 026 in 26 seconds. It has tons of torque, and did well when I sunk the spikes in. So far so good!  8)

[CTYank]

So I gave the 800 a good test, I sawed a few cookies out of a 16" dia poplar log. The 800 did it on average in 10.7 seconds, my 048 in 17 seconds and my 026 in 26 seconds. It has tons of torque, and did well when I sunk the spikes in. So far so good!  8)

Just think, once it loosens up a bit (no rush on that) you should see a much better performance margin. My bet is that you've seen nothing much yet. Hang on for the ride.

Just be sure that the carb is set rich enough on the top-end. Enjoy!

[pabst79]

One thing I forgot to mention is, the whole saw is basically metal, not much plastic except for top cover. The handle and recoil are nice solid metal, steel or alum, not sure? I don't mind a little extra weight if it means its tougher.  :laugh:

[21incher]

Nice built saw. With my 590 it just kept producing more torque for the first couple of tank fill-ups. Good luck with it.

[21ftnitro]

Nice saw. Looks like it should be a beast. Im not an expert by any stretch but the 590 i bought seems to be really good.

[Cut4fun]

Let me know how you like the newer 800P = 8000. They updated the p+c with quads and domed piston. I was wondering what else they updated. 

I have a old one that has out cut 5200 and P61 with 24" bars buried by someone else testing them unbiased.  My 800V was even wearing a 8T with 24" buried.  Didnt even realize I forgot to change it after running a shorter bar years ago till I went top put on the 36" other day. 
Pics showing compared to a 181.

[cuterz]

I am very happy with my 600p 400 and 306.

[ladylake]

 

I have a couple of CS 8000 saws, one old one and one upgraded to the new piston and cylinder.  I think the new P@C took away some of that huge torque the old one has.  I'll have to do some timed cuts to compare.  Steve

[Cut4fun]

I went with the 27", I think I may get a 20" for it too. I should have time to give it a good test tomorrow.

So how did it do for a completely stock?  Have to do any carb tuning etc?

[pabst79]

I went with the 27", I think I may get a 20" for it too. I should have time to give it a good test tomorrow.

So how did it do for a completely stock?  Have to do any carb tuning etc?

So far, so good. I haven't really stuck her into big stuff yet, maybe this weelend  :D. I have not adjusted carb at all, it doesn't bog a bit in 18-24" poplar or a 18" beech I cut for a neighbor. I have a large red oak that should give it a better test, and will give a report on. I'm happy with the saw so far.

[Cut4fun]

Did it come with 7T rim?  I had a 8T on mine with 24" full comp buried in hardwood with no problems.

I'm back to 7T and 36" now. 

[pabst79]

Yep, it came with a 7 tooth.

[pabst79]

I was skeptical that the saw would actually gain a noticeable amount of power, but it did! A buddy and I cut up 2 big red oaks that blew down last year. He has a 460 that has a few mods, it couldn't hold a candle to the 800 Echo, I must say I was surprised and I'm happy with my purchase.   

[ladylake]

 I have a 80cc 7900 Dolmar, 85cc Husky and a CS8000 Echo . Not much difference in cutting speed, the Husky might be 1 second faster in a 20 second cut..  Love that Echo torque.   Steve