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Ash or White oak
« on: March 10, 2022, 11:27:55 AM »
A coworker is putting a wood bed in an old pickup that he is restoring and needs one more piece of wood. I think it is Ash but others thought White Oak.  What's your opinion?  Thanks in advance

 

 

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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2022, 01:36:58 PM »
Looks like ash to me. Sap ring looks too large to be W oak.
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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2022, 02:30:02 PM »
Do not see white oak rays... but pic is not clear and in focus.

For a bed, hope it is white oak and not ash.
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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2022, 02:50:33 PM »
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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2022, 03:47:58 PM »
Not that it doesn't rot more easily but ash is a traditional wood for vehicle frames such as the Morgan from the UK and some USA antique auto parts. White oak hands down to last. Even Chestnut Oak in the same family doesn't last anything like WO other than where it's protected such as via overhang.
 
I have exactly one sawable ash on our place. It's probably a 125-130 year old tree but could be younger as it's near a branch and relatively wet feet.
 I wonder how susceptible it is to the evil bug? 
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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2022, 05:51:40 PM »
I am with the Boss.  It certainly is ash. 
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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2022, 06:46:49 PM »
It's so tempting to make some smart ash remark.

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Not that it doesn't rot more easily but ash is a traditional wood for vehicle frames such as the Morgan from the UK and some USA antique auto parts. White oak hands down to last. Even Chestnut Oak in the same family doesn't last anything like WO other than where it's protected such as via overhang.

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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2022, 08:01:43 AM »
Hmm... The ash here looks quite different. Mine seems to have a much lighter and grayer tone to it. Most of what I see is from my yard and it either standing dead or fallen and left in place, so I don't know how much the ageing effects things. I see lots of spalting and not much consistent grain like this.

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Re: Ash or White oak
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2022, 05:09:28 PM »
So it's: hows yer Tyloses today? Interesting the variation from place growing. 
One of my childhood nicknames is TY so name catches my eye. :D

 I have an old dug well beside our garden plot. I laid up stone to make safer and usable for transplanting etc.. The top on it has been built from Chestnut Oak twice now. Mostly because I've got lots of big ones and the recent severe weather years have some toppling over. I did a board & batten storage barn in 10" chestnut oak maybe 25 yrs ago and it really holds up there but not that well. High humidity doesn't help from water inside and evaporation.
That sole Ash is a big tree in a spot I gave serious thought to placing a lake, but cost was high as dam was also high, so no lake. 
That trees always been in my eye as my springtime walks looking for wildflowers takes me down in that branch area of much beauty. Jack in the Pulpit, trilliums- red & white, Lady Slippers, so on.   
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