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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2021, 05:36:31 PM »
I haven't started my sawmill in 2021 yet, but I did set and sharpen enough blades to do me for a while when I get back to sawing next week. 8)
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2021, 09:11:14 PM »
2020 was a good growing year for D&S Sawmill Services and Iím proud of my accomplishments this year. What I do is small potatoes to what so many of you guys do but thatís ok with me. I still work a full time job as a construction superintendent for one of the larger building contractors in Nebraska, so my sawing business is part time mainly just weekends for now. I completed 26 custom sawing jobs durning the 2020 season and increased the companies gross sales 2 1/2 times over my first official year in business (2019). Iíve begun to acquire some satisfied repeat clients, and met some great people with at least one similar interest along the way. I can honestly say that I sincerely enjoy my days that are spent traveling to new locations and custom sawing. Iím looking forward to 2021 and am currently spending a little time here in January sawing some materials for future sales. 2021 has also brought with it a rate increase because simply put, Iíve been told Iím not charging enough for the yield I regularly produce. 2021 is also the year Iím going to make it a priority to get my first solar kiln built and into production. This could be a game changer in my material sales market but will also require more time on my part to keep it operating. 
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2021, 09:15:40 PM »
John and I brought home a large butt log form a lightning killed, laurel oak that I dropped earlier in the week for an 82 year old neighbor.  We also brought a few pecan logs home from my uncle's place today.  We sawed one and went through three blades in attempts to get it to cut flat.  We determined that one of us needs to be spraying diesel on the bottom of the blade or configure a blade lube system that cleans both sides of the blade.  Sawing with a south wind like we had today is dang near torture.


 

 

One of the pecan slabs with included bark. 

 laurel oak.  We may saw  the pecan butt log tomorrow.

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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2021, 09:31:52 PM »
Kyle,
 
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2021, 05:43:56 AM »
Yes, sir, but sometimes the potential reward is worth the trouble and aggravation.  We may try to saw the butt log today.  We cut the slabs yesterday at 2 1/2" thick (@WDH) in order to hopefully have enough to work with to flatten them after drying.  We were about maxed out on width while using the backstops- does sawing at this thickness seem like a sound plan? 

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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2021, 07:55:26 AM »
The last week of 2020 was my best yet. 3 days of sawing on 2 mobile jobs for a total of 3800 feet.All SYP.  Went back to the 2nd customer yesterday and sawed a little over 1200. Going back today to saw about 10 more logs that we didnít get to yesterday. At both places the customers had a Lull and 2 laborers for off bearing.
 Hopefully 2021 will bring my power feed and power head early in the year. Been waiting for it since October. I donít mind hard work, but as busy as Iíve been lately I could sure use it. 
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2021, 08:13:06 AM »
Kyle, I saw the smiley_devil at 2 3/8" thick and can get almost every slab flat at 1.75" and some to 2" after kiln drying, so with pecan, you need 1/2" of green thickness over your target dried and planed thickness.
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2021, 12:23:19 PM »
Thanks for the guidance (we normally saw slabs at 2 3/8 but went ahead and cut these at 2 1/2").  This tree has proven to be particularly obstreperous.  We sawed and stacked the butt log this morning.  If we can get this to dry it should be pretty nice.


On another note.  While attempting to load the pecan log we sawed yesterday afternoon I was inspired to disassemble one of my homemade canthooks and cobble up a Magic Hook.  It worked well when hooked to the log clamp to keep the log from rolling off of the loading arms.


 

 

 

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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2021, 01:48:15 PM »
 


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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2021, 06:46:48 PM »
   I feel like Tom Sawyer! I had a new customer come by yesterday who wanted 220 linear ft of 4/4 hemlock which I did not have. He looked through what I had and decided he'd use Red Oak instead and it looked like I had just about enough to fill his order. He called this afternoon that he was on his way and about an hour out so I hooked the 5X8 trailer to the 4 wheeler and pulled out all the 1X10 & 1X12 RO 4/4 boards I had in stock. Turned out I had 210 linear ft. I had one 2 y/o RO log left on the lot. I tried to pick it up and move it but it but was way too heavy for my little FEL. About the time I decided to go get a cable and pull it out of the corner where it was staged the customer and his brother pulled up. I told them the situation and offered to substitute ash or hickory for the remaining 10' of 1X10 or I'd go cut my last 12' RO and get it out of that. He preferred that as he really wanted longer boards and said he would buy all the 1X10s I could get out of the log. He asked if I could have it next week and I told him I'd saw it right now if he had a few minutes and they did so they went and watched go me out in the pasture, set the mill to the travel position, hook it to the ATV and drive to the front lot where the log was. I set up the mill which took 5-6 minutes then hooked a 1/4" cable to the log and backed John up to it, the customer hooked it to the ball on the blade and I dragged it 30'or so to the mill. The 2 brothers grabbed the cant hooks and finally got it rolled over and I nudged it the rest of the way on the arms with my fork. I put a fresh 4* DH blade on the mill and started it then lifted the log on the arms and moved it against the side supports, clamped and raised the small end and made several deep cuts to cut the flare off the big end and get to the solid heart wood. We were all wondering a bit if I was going to get enough heart wood to make 1X10's but I guess the solid heart must have been about 12-13 inches square. I squared up a 10" thick cant and started sawing finished boards and the brothers off loaded on the forks of John. I handed them a 12" drywall knife and they scraped the fresh sawdust off. When the cant got down to about 5" I stopped and stood 5 flitches up and edged them off to 10". They had some runout on them so I told them I'd call them 10' long as they would easily trim to that so they were happy. At the end we got 10-12' 1X10's and 5 10' 1X10's for 170 running ft. That was just about all John could handle but I got them over to his trailer and we slid them off and I went and got him 5 more 1X10's off the trailer to finish his order. About 183 bf. The customer was happy and they thanked me profusely for letting them watch and be part of the sawing process and said "Every time I look at that wall I will remember helping saw the log into boards." I think they were happier getting to load lumber than actually getting the boards he needed. Maybe I need to just offer sawmill classes and charge people to come help like Eustace Conway (Mountain Man TV series) does with his apprentices and such.


 Fresh cut 12' 1X10s on left and 5-previously cut 10' 1X10's on the right. I did not have my camera when I started sawing the log but grabbed it for this "Happy Customer" picture. After the customer left I went out and edged the 3 remaining >10" flitches on the mill. Total run hours was .9 hours and I don't think I had but about a quart of gas in the tank and all my cans are empty by design and pending a Tuesday gas run to the next county where it is about $.25/gallon cheaper when I go see the tooth fairy.

The most surprising and rewarding part was the customer's thanking me for letting them help.
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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2021, 07:41:41 PM »
I think that just was a little  manafestation of the sawdust addiction showing itself. You did them a service by making massive amounts of man glitter and letting them play in it a little.  I bet they come back and they will surely tell their friends, who knows you may have to set up some bleachers for your classses. 

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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2021, 07:55:05 PM »
   Well, I think part of the surprise to them was how fast and easy it was to completely pack up the mill and move it to a totally new location and set up and be sawing in such a short amount of time and with no more effort than they saw. They were also impressed that a mill that size could be moved with an ATV. We probably used less than an hour from the time they gave me the go-ahead till the time the log was sawed and we slid the lumber off the forks on to their trailer. And for the most part the log did return some really pretty boards. I pointed out the quarter sawed portions of the boards with the nice fleck.
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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2021, 08:06:05 PM »
Sawing is all about selling yourself and showing/letting the customer know that you are the best sawyer available. 

Just tell um that if you had to call the best sawyer in the state....you would dial your own number.
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2021, 08:52:16 PM »
Going to take a good long time for those fresh sawn red oak boards to dry....
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2021, 09:13:40 PM »
   We discussed that a little and I hope he lets them dry enough. I suggested he might put a fan on them but not too much heat at first. He is laying them parallel with "chinking" made by a different color board behind them so that gives him some room for shrinkage. I told him we cut some WO 1/2"X6" and my son nailed them up on his basement wall and they each shrunk what looked like 1/2" on each side. 

Danny,

   Does the fact this log has been down 2 years have much effect on how much more they will dry compared to a fresh cut Red Oak cut to the same size boards. The sap wood was total punk on this log and only the heart wood was left solid.
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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2021, 06:47:34 AM »
The log might have dried some but the heartwood will still be quite wet. As you know, you can get 10% shrinkage on flatsawn oak and with 10Ē boards that could amount to 3/4 of an inch. If used inside, it would be best to factor in that shrinkage when installing so the gap formed from shrinkage will match the air dried boards which are also going to shrink some too, but a good bit less than the fresh sawn boards. 

He might be best served to employ a shrinkage calculator to gauge how to install the boards with some boards wetter and some boards drier.  Kinda like installing a deck with treated SYP.  If you want a gap between the boards, butt the wet treated boards up to each other and you will get your gap when the boards dry to equilibrium. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2021, 09:10:43 AM »
Danny,

   Thanks. I think he is expecting that. I had some 1X10's in stock that had been stacked and sir drying a year or so and they had dried to about 9.5" or so, give or take a fudge so that helps give him an idea.
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2021, 05:30:58 PM »
   The customer called me back to ask me to save the other 4 -10' 1X10's I had originally pulled from stock and he said he'd be over this weekend unless he could squeeze in a trip during the week. I told him I was going to my dentist tomorrow who is only a couple miles from his home so he jumped all over that. They are loaded on my P/U and he will meet me at my 9:00 am appointment. Sometimes a plan actually comes together.
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2021, 04:37:42 PM »
Red pine 4x6x12, 4x4x12, 6x6x8, 2x10x12 was today's sawing. Yesterday was sunny and around 37į beautiful winter day. Today cloudy but still warm at 37į. If it stays like this all winter I will be happy.

 
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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2021, 05:18:26 PM »
Looks good Bruno. We are enjoying a fairly moderate winter so far here in the NY Catskills also. 
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