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Re: couple pics... post what your currently cutting
« Reply #1240 on: December 09, 2016, 05:33:45 AM »
You can see waves in the ground as you move the machine around.   8)

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« Reply #1241 on: December 09, 2016, 06:08:54 AM »
41 feet of mud. I have to cross a bog to get to the back lot. The ground will move when a forwarder crosses it. Even the tractor use to do it. Now with a layer of rock about 2-3 feet deep has taken seeing most of the ground moving away.  ;D
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« Reply #1242 on: December 09, 2016, 07:10:07 AM »
I've heard of a guy that was cutting a bog like that down by Amasa and the machine all the sudden broke through and his processor went down so fast he didn't think he was going to make it out of the cab in time. When it finally stopped the machine was down to the roof and took 4 large excavators to dig it out.

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« Reply #1243 on: December 09, 2016, 07:26:58 AM »
If there is no root base and I haven't laid a mat, I don't go there.   I don't need an adventure like that Chevy, calculated risk only, no driving around to see if it's soft.  Mat first.

It is difficult or next to impossible to lay a durable mat without adequate stumps and roots underneath.   

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« Reply #1244 on: December 09, 2016, 09:09:38 AM »
I started a lot 2 winters ago, had about a 1/3 mile skid through what i would consider a pretty soft swamp. Still have 40 acres or so of hw (mostly hard maple) on a rigde past it to cut but dont dare go back till we get some steady sub 0 temps. It was weird skidding through it and watching trees 30 ft away swaying. Just moved equip to a new lot last week and things are starting to tighten up here pretty good will get some pictures up soon.
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« Reply #1245 on: December 09, 2016, 09:29:29 AM »
I remember in the spruce swamp shaking the snow out of the trees along the road when going out loaded . With a 250 we could not get out of the low side until we got to mineral soil . 6 above this morning making ice on the skid roads .
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« Reply #1246 on: December 09, 2016, 11:38:21 AM »
This is a road we built across a swamp this fall to make all season access into a large tract of timber. We used a layer of fabric, then 22' tamarack poles for corduroy, then another layer of fabric, then about 2' of "jig rock"over the top. "Jig rock" is the name used for the overburden and waste from the iron mines, which we have millions of yards of up here. It works great for crossing soft areas, it typically runs up to 3" in size, with good "angularity" so it really locks together and bridges the soft areas.

The only drawback with the jig rock is that with the iron content, it is red, and that red gets all over everything. Your vehicle bleeds red 6 months after driving on it if it gets wet ;)
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« Reply #1247 on: December 09, 2016, 05:37:43 PM »
That's an interesting road.   Do you leave it permanently?   We have huge piles of red mine waste here as well, but they sure don't let it go cheap.

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« Reply #1248 on: December 09, 2016, 08:50:39 PM »
Here's a clip from this summer, cutting in a spruce swamp.   To date this is the deepest bog I have operated on. 




Wow!  Great video.  I've never seen ground like that before.

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« Reply #1249 on: December 09, 2016, 11:49:26 PM »
1270, yep that will be a permanent road. We put it in for UPM on their land. The road got pretty tall, because the tamarack was layed in approximately 2' thick, and then all the fill on top. We're figuring the whole road will sink at least a foot before it stops settling. The last time I.checked,.most places.were getting $1/yard for the jig rock, it may be more now. It's pretty cheap.
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« Reply #1250 on: December 23, 2016, 08:24:37 PM »
You can see waves in the ground as you move the machine around.   8)

This parcel is not quite that soft but you certainly have to be cautious.  Very hard to get the stumps low enough to get the forwarder through easily.  Here is picture of a load of 8' cedar shinglewood and 6' saw stock.  You can see some of the spruce on the block behind the cedar.  The spruce is very nice but only found on the slightly higher drier areas.

  

 
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« Reply #1251 on: December 23, 2016, 09:56:49 PM »
Ken, I'm glad to see you guys know how to mound up a load ;)
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« Reply #1252 on: December 24, 2016, 07:21:01 AM »
Merry Christmas all. Cutting Red Oak and Pine on this huge lot. 650MBF of hardwood and pine to go, lots of cordwood too. Should be here till I retire or my body gives out.

 

 

 

 
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« Reply #1253 on: December 24, 2016, 10:10:03 AM »
The BuffaloKing in front of a stand of old growth white cedar. We cut all the other species on this block and reserved the cedar.

We had a discussion a while ago about balsam fir, and how much the quality of it can vary by site. This site had very good balsam, some of the butts where pushing 20" and still sound. Actually, all of the species on this site were very good quality- Birch, aspen, balsam, Balm of Gilead,  and a bit of white spruce.
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« Reply #1254 on: December 24, 2016, 05:48:20 PM »
not to sound dumb but what the    is balm of gilead  ??? :-\

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« Reply #1255 on: December 24, 2016, 06:24:38 PM »
Haha! I figured I might get that question, coxy!  A member of the Aspen/Willow/Cottonwood family I think, Balm of Gilead is also known as Balmy, Bam, Balsam Poplar and Black Poplar. It sometimes grows in pure stands, but is often found mixed with aspen on the margins of wet areas, and also scattered around other wet sites. I have also seen a lot of it on abandoned mine lands around here. Some paper mills use a bit of it, Sappi takes a lot of it that they use in their cellulosic fiber production. It is strictly a pulpwood species. When growing with aspen, it can be hard to distinguish from aspen in the smaller diameters.
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« Reply #1256 on: December 24, 2016, 07:48:07 PM »
Balm is easy to distinguish around here by the smell alone. Haha

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« Reply #1257 on: December 24, 2016, 08:23:53 PM »
His boss won't let him get out and smell each stick . Two Harbors GP will take 20% mixed in with aspen .
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« Reply #1258 on: December 24, 2016, 08:32:58 PM »
When I get into a batch of it I can smell it in the cab of the processor.... :D

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« Reply #1259 on: December 25, 2016, 01:20:48 AM »
It does stink. The worst place to try to distinguish it from aspen is often in the old slash windrows in pine plantations. Often the processor operators have the two processed into the same pile, so I know it's not just me. If it's going to UPM, then NO BALMY! It's fun trying to sort out a half of cord of 4" balmy and aspen mixed together.
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