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« Reply #8600 on: September 20, 2021, 07:44:12 PM »
I have been opening up an area in the woods to fell two nice white pines into. Today I cut down a black birch. It will be firewood. In the first picture you can see the edge of one of the pines and the clearing I want it to fall into. Three more trees have to come down first.


 

 

 
Do you think the stump police will give me a passing mark on this one?


 
I cut the tree into eight foot logs but only for transport. They will be cut into 16" lengths at the barnyard.


 

 
It is still wet in there and the tractor tires found plenty of mud. I could have waited but waiting might have just brought more rain.


 
I need the ground to dry out before I harvest the pines. It has been a frustrating summer in that respect.

Keep on cutting.....Cutter

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« Reply #8601 on: September 20, 2021, 08:44:12 PM »
To be honest, I don't even remember what we run for air pressure on the forwarders. I think 80 psi. We don't have tires pop off of beads😁 Yes the ride is horrible.
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« Reply #8602 on: September 20, 2021, 11:27:58 PM »
Those tires must sound like a cannon going off if they blow out, thats a lot of air in a tire that size

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« Reply #8603 on: September 21, 2021, 05:24:22 AM »
Yes they do shakes the lexan on the cab you might be right on 80 lbs it took a long time to get them up to pressure. Been a few years now startin to get the early oldtimers cant remember anything
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« Reply #8604 on: September 21, 2021, 05:32:55 PM »
Cutterboy LOL, but to be honest the stump police would be all over you on that one , you Dutch the cut on the notch and that is kind of quite important on stopping the tree from splitting , the higher the grade of timber the worse the chance of splitting becomes as no knots to hold the tree together 

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« Reply #8605 on: September 21, 2021, 05:34:55 PM »
we are suppose to get a ton of rain in the next 3 days , I sure hope not 

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« Reply #8606 on: September 21, 2021, 05:47:41 PM »
Cutterboy LOL, but to be honest the stump police would be all over you on that one , you Dutch the cut on the notch and that is kind of quite important on stopping the tree from splitting , the higher the grade of timber the worse the chance of splitting becomes as no knots to hold the tree together
Not splitting hairs here, just trying to understand EHP, what are your stump cops looking for? I thought you said the backcut should be 2" above the bottom of the notch, just as he has done. What do you mean by 'Dutch cut'? What he has there is a small tree, so I know we are not talking a big deal here. Obviously he has a nice fall. I am not one to second guess somebody with nit-picking when the fall is right because that is the goal, but I just don't see what the issue is here even though I pretty much always have my backcut even with the bottom of my notch. I don't suggest what might work for others.
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« Reply #8607 on: September 21, 2021, 05:53:31 PM »
it sounds like a typical case of government expertise. 
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« Reply #8608 on: September 21, 2021, 08:58:07 PM »
Can't speak for ehp but I think he is talking about the bit of "bypass" cut at about 5:30 in the stump pic (dutchman)

If you make your vertical/angled cut first on the notch you can look down through it while cutting the horizontal part of the notch and see when they meet up to try not to go too far. Also, (&@$ happens and I'm glad there aren't any stump police followin me around :D

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« Reply #8609 on: September 21, 2021, 09:09:07 PM »
AH HA! I didn't see that. Yeah, I get it. I am pretty anal about having my notch cuts match without overcuts. I guess it was the term that I wasn't technically familiar with and didn't look for what he was referring to. Yeah. I guess if I were a judge, and I am not, I would have some thoughts on that too. :D
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« Reply #8610 on: September 22, 2021, 07:15:27 AM »
I'm glad you all are having such a good time with my stump. :D :D I have been working for 50 years to perfect my stump cutting. Another 50 and I think I should have it down. ;D :D :D

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« Reply #8611 on: September 22, 2021, 08:24:06 AM »
........Another 50 and I think I should have it down. ;D :D :D
You are a faster learner than me. ;D
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« Reply #8612 on: September 22, 2021, 01:00:05 PM »
That whole stump thing is over the top. ::)
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« Reply #8613 on: September 22, 2021, 01:09:20 PM »
That whole stump thing is over the top. ::)
I think you are undercutting the subject. ;D
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« Reply #8614 on: September 22, 2021, 04:47:15 PM »
AH HA! I didn't see that. Yeah, I get it. I am pretty anal about having my notch cuts match without overcuts. I guess it was the term that I wasn't technically familiar with and didn't look for what he was referring to. Yeah. I guess if I were a judge, and I am not, I would have some thoughts on that too. :D
Nothing wrong with a well placed Dutchman at the right time heck even a tapered hinge can be helpful in the right situation the one size fits all is what can get you into trouble quick. Say a lay is directly in front of you the tree has a sweep out to the left, but its in a thinning so theres leave trees how do you go about getting it into that lay? One good way is a Dutchman with a tapered hinge allowing the tree to roll past the others canopies. How about the only lay you have has a large old growth stump right in front of it how would you go about it? Myself Id get the tree headed out the right direction and have the face set up to slip the butt off to the side keep the tree right out into the lay that will maximize footage.

 

I know how I cut is completely different then whats taught in GOL but its also to get wood on the ground safely as well as maximizing whats there.

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« Reply #8615 on: September 22, 2021, 06:42:46 PM »
THAT is a really cool explanation and great phots to support it. I do have a question to finish off the technique: Where is your back cut (how high)? I assume you chased it in as it fell, but did you tend to be thin on the near side in the last photo?
 GOL isn't the 'be all end all', it is designed to keep basic cutters from killing anyone. This stuff you do is fundamentally elevated and I am trying to carefully understand it and maybe try it on a few trees when the situation is right.
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« Reply #8616 on: September 22, 2021, 07:24:16 PM »
@Old Greenhorn 

That one is a situation where you thin the one side out carefully watching what the tree is doing, to get them to slip take a super thin hinge to start with.

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« Reply #8617 on: September 22, 2021, 08:01:02 PM »
SO if I am reading that photo correctly, you made the back cut at the same height as the top cut in the last phot of your prior post, and you thinned out the FAR side of the hinge in that same photo so it could slide off to the right side of the obstructive stump in the photo in this last post. Did I get that right? Sorry for all the questions, but I am trying to understand the predictive physics involved in the planning process. It's very complex and not to be 'guessed at'.
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« Reply #8618 on: September 22, 2021, 08:26:33 PM »
I do not cut how they tell me to cut , I cut on what it takes to get the tree down on the ground with least danger . The stump police have no clue on how to fall timber and anybody that does know how will very quickly figure that out, they are told on how to check guys from videos and a teacher that most likely never fell 100 trees in his life and he was always on flat ground , never on real steep ground where you cannot make a mistake and live. I watched the videos about 12 years ago just because I had to and I blew those videos full of so many holes on the mistakes their faller was doing making the videos they kind of got sick of me lol but every time they said I was correct which was pretty easy to see . If your cutting real high grade stuff like whats around here you cannot cut the way they want , You will split every butt , Cutting high grade hardwood is nothing like falling softwood , Softwood is fairly hard to split unless your way off on what your to be doing and remember stumps have to be below 12 inches in height , they do not care if tree is 6 feet or whatever wide , Its alot harder than you think when the snow gets 4 feet deep to keep your stumps that low 

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« Reply #8619 on: September 22, 2021, 08:27:27 PM »
been raining all day here and pouring , suppose to stop sometime tomorrow


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